New xbox 360 revision semi-confirmed

0ubliette

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/20/hdmi-enabled-black-xbox-360-in-late-april-for-479/


Its all there in the link, black, 120gb, hdmi.

Karmafaerie

Just a little note.

The pic could be dodgy.
Look at the power indicator. It's facing the opposite way to the regular 360.
The console is horizontal and to symbol is the right way up, while on the 360 the symbol is only correct if it's vertical.

Then again maybe they've just changed it.

Just thought I'd point it out.

koneko

From Kotaku:

Ed's Note: Matt Helgeson, senior editor over at Game Informer, just dropped us a line to let us know that the story is in fact true. As a rule they don't post fake news stories in their April mag. So go celebrate.

0ubliette

Kotaku wrote:

Always get an iffy feeling posting black Xbox 360 stories — Especially ones that pop up in April. Yes, we know that the debug unit is black. And yet, the rumor continues to surface. This month's Game Informer says that a black Xbox 360 with larger 120GB hard drive, HDMI output and an HDMI cable will retail for approximately US $479. It does not include HD-DVD playback. A well-placed source at Microsoft tells GI that the reason is because the "format's not proven." Then again, neither is this rumor. And if this is in fact an April Fool's Joke, we've got two words: Not funny.

Thanks Jc!

Ed's Note: Matt Helgeson, senior editor over at Game Informer, just dropped us a line to let us know that the story is in fact true. As a rule they don't post fake news stories in their April mag. So go celebrate.

Well theres the kotaku report which seems to give it a bit more credibility.

whitetrash

The ring of light in that pic looks really bad.

Black, Big hd, hdmi? Who gives a **** really?

My tv does vga/dvi which is fine, does hdmi have better picture quality? Or is it just that it does audio as well?

As for the big hd, that's only really useful to the americans who can download hd movies from the market place. Will there be a way I can upgrade without needing to buy a memory card?

Good news for high-end buyers interested in getting a 360, non-news for everyone else. I don't know why so much attention has been given to this rumour over the last while.

Scruff

couldnt really give a ****e about hdmi either. would prefer divx and h.264 codec support which would cost em nothing to manufacture!
then the 120gb hd would be nice...

Kenny_D

And built in wireless isnt exactly asking much either. The wii and ps3 have it. Hell even the DS has built in wireless so it cant be that expensive to add in

xanthor

I'm less than convinced, and if it's true, MS are going to face a backlash.

Ciaran500

xanthor wrote:

I'm less than convinced, and if it's true, MS are going to face a backlash.

Don't see why, its a more expensive version with more features. Why would people be annoyed?

monkeyfudge

I'd love a quieter version of the 360... The noise is the worst thing about it...

xanthor

Ciaran500 wrote:

Don't see why, its a more expensive version with more features. Why would people be annoyed?

Since the answer is obvious, I'm going to take that as a rhetorical question.

Ciaran500

:rolleyes:

I still don't see what I'm meant to be annoyed about.

xanthor

Ciaran500 wrote:

:rolleyes:

I still don't see what I'm meant to be annoyed about.

Tell me where I said YOU are meant to be annoyed.

Please.

christophicus

im happy MS did this. now it can compete with the PS3 better. Although whover mentioned the wifi made a good point, they should incorperate that too.

PixelTrawler

They'll drop the core too, so the rumours go. Then the premium will be the cheapo one and this will be the new daddy.

projectmayhem

Ciaran500 wrote:

Don't see why, its a more expensive version with more features. Why would people be annoyed?

people will be annoyed because they just bought into a new console a year ago, then saved up and bought HDTV's, and now there's a new version of that console that takes full advantage of the "HD" part of the tv.

on top of that, it fragments the 360 market even more then it already is.

godtabh

I'd buy one if I didnt all ready have one.

Not pushed with HDMI as I have vga.

Ciaran500

projectmayhem wrote:

people will be annoyed because they just bought into a new console a year ago, then saved up and bought HDTV's, and now there's a new version of that console that takes full advantage of the "HD" part of the tv.

on top of that, it fragments the 360 market even more then it already is.

There's SFA difference between HDMI/VGA/Component and 99% of games work on all versions of the 360, you want the extra features you buy them if you want.

Tell me where I said YOU are meant to be annoyed.

Please.

I assumed you meant MS would face a backlash from 360 owners i.e. me

godtabh

I posted the link to my friend and this is what he said

i wouldnt believe anything between now and april 1st on games sites, they are notorious for there april fools jokes

pp_me129

http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/rumor-game-mag-validates-black-xbox-360-245472.php

there ya go

Dman001

Hopefully they will bring out the 120gb hard drive sepretly.They should replace the 120gb one with the 20gb one at the same price as the 20gb one.

projectmayhem

Ciaran500 wrote:

There's SFA difference between HDMI/VGA/Component and 99% of games work on all versions of the 360, you want the extra features you buy them if you want.

yeah but the fact is that i paid good money for a machine that's now not quite as good as if i had of waited a little longer...

kearnsr wrote:

I posted the link to my friend and this is what he said

duke nukem forever confirmed for april 1st...

kaisersose77

the 20gb hd's can be cloned as far as i know but ppl dont bother as its not worth the hassle, but once the 120gb is out then it'll probably be a lot cheaper to clone it. Some hash key or something is needed and they'll be able to get that once the 120gb's are out.

Royale with Cheese

projectmayhem wrote:

yeah but the fact is that i paid good money for a machine that's now not quite as good as if i had of waited a little longer...

Exactly, and that's one of the main selling points of consoles. Unlike pc's a better one doesn't come out every 3 months, just every 6-7 years which means no paying for upgrades in that timeframe.

To be honest microsoft piss me off alot. Pay extra for live, rechargable batteries for the wireless controllers. €90 for what is essentially a wireless dongle. And then when (not if, when) your console breaks out of warranty all they want are your credit card details to get €140 off you.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 360. But microsoft must be making a mint on the the extras which should really come as standard.

evad_lhorg

monkeyfudge wrote:

I'd love a quieter version of the 360... The noise is the worst thing about it...

the new ones at the moment are a lot quieter. they have a new drive in them and it sounds much better.

lafors

evad_lhorg wrote:

the new ones at the moment are a lot quieter. they have a new drive in them and it sounds much better.

Yeah right, mine broken twice and I have a feeling my 3rd is about to die...or maybe its supposed to sound like a boeing 747 on take off. Oh and it clicks like a mo-fo when its spinning sometimes...I get very worried.

(It goes mad when I put my GOW disk in, and crashes with dirty disk error...any1 else have issues with GOW disc)

Oh back to my original point
My launch day 360 was a 737, my second was a 737 and my latest is a 747, but with the HD-DVD its the new airbus A380

So I hope the stores will be doing a trade in offer for the new version...I likes shiny black.

kensutz

Does anybody else realise that the magazines that juts went out to print now are the APRIL issues which 99% of the time carry April Fools jokes.

mickg007

lafors wrote:

(It goes mad when I put my GOW disk in, and crashes with dirty disk error...any1 else have issues with GOW disc)

Loads of people having problems with GOW. I got the game replaced, exact same issue - diry disk error. Had to send the console back. Not sure what it was in the end as they dont tell you what they did to the console in the repair centre. Mine came back a lot quiter, so would say it was refurbished.

Ciaran500

kensutz wrote:

Does anybody else realise that the magazines that juts went out to print now are the APRIL issues which 99% of the time carry April Fools jokes.

Already been mentioned:

koneko wrote:

From Kotaku:

Ed's Note: Matt Helgeson, senior editor over at Game Informer, just dropped us a line to let us know that the story is in fact true. As a rule they don't post fake news stories in their April mag. So go celebrate.

DirkVoodoo

Didn't I read on Anandtech, or somewhere similar, recently that Bill Gates has stated that there will be no new hard drive for the xbox and that 20GB is enough for most people.

I don't think microsoft would be stupid enough to release an improved xbox without at least offering some overly priced expansion units for the current one beforehand.

RuggieBear

DirkVoodoo wrote:

Didn't I read on Anandtech, or somewhere similar, recently that Bill Gates has stated that there will be no new hard drive for the xbox and that 20GB is enough for most people.

he's the same dumb**** who thought 640kb was enough (although he denies this now obviously)

DirkVoodoo

On the old "dirty disc" phenomenon,

I remember I was unfortunate enough to purchase a 1st gen xbox with a thompson drive, go figure!

I think my problems started around the time I got ninja Gaiden (in fact, its only since getting a 360 Ive been able to enjoy ninja gaiden without having to cross my fingers each time I played, an extremely difficult skill).

I wonder is something similar happening with the 360? How can manufacturers justify this hardware redundancy? We have a 7 year old panasonic DVD player, never given a days trouble, a dead PS2 thanks to their own "fast burning lasers" that die after 4 years and a dead 5 year old xbox with thompson drive.

I reckon if I pulled my old NES out of the attic it would boot mario bros and duck hunt fine.

At this rate, by 2020 we will have a new xbox model every 3 months, the xbox will be sold in pieces like those magazines that let you build a rally car or a dinosaur week-by-week, with each issue costing about 200 euro and the parts will disintegrate if exposed to air.

Stephen

DirkVoodoo wrote:

I reckon if I pulled my old NES out of the attic it would boot mario bros and duck hunt fine.

The important difference there, though, is that the NES has no moving parts, so should really be expected to last much longer than something that does, with the friction and wear and tear that moving parts will have. The 360 has the noisy god damn dvd drive spinning away all the time.

DirkVoodoo

True, but the NES was still subjected to nasty mechanical forces upon the insertion of cartridges. The zero insertion force system as it was called, was certainly not and the contact pins were prone to bending under repeated stress [wikipedia]

EDIT: A mechanical spring is still a moving part

skywalker

Anyone else think the silver tray completely takes the look off it?

christophicus

No i think it looks quite good.

unklerosco

This has been all over the net... When i see microsoft talking about it i'll believe it....

Originally Posted by ENGADGET
* The Elite will be limited quantities only; that may be as much or as little as a couple hundred thousand.
* The case, controller, and Live headset will all be black. It will have all new packaging.
* Elite will cost $479, and will be a 3rd SKU; it will be sold alongside Premium and Core packs.
* Eventually Elite hardware (in white plastics) will take the role of the Xbox Premium. That is to say, after the Elite is launched and sold out, future Xbox Premiums will have 120GB / HDMI.
* We do not yet know exactly when 120GB / HDMI will become the standard for Premium, but it is loosely estimated to be late summer or fall.
* Elite models run cooler than normal 360s, but they are not yet confirmed to have 65nm chips.
* Prices may remain the same with the 120GB / HDMI hardware upgrade in the Premium Xbox, but we may still see a price cut on the line when 65nm chips start shipping.
* The HD DVD drive will not be internal or bundled -- Microsoft never did or nor does not currently have plans to put an HD DVD drive in the 360.
* There are no current plans to integrate WiFi into the Elite or future Premiums (although that can always change).

xanthor

More news.


http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27190&

KTRIC

MS are set to make a HUGE official announcement today, might be the new machine or could be something else.

unklerosco

Id say if its true it'll be announced today/tomorrow to try n take away from that thing Sony r releasing... Whats it called again??

Scruff

hmmm....confirm the rumour, deny the rumour, update to support more codecs, a web browser like the wii\ps3, xbox portable....theres quite a lot on the list of speculation lately.

oh look even more rumoured conformations

Ars Technica's Opposable Thumbs has the scoop on a data transfer cable that will ship with the new Xbox 360 Elite Edition (codenamed Zephyr) that will let you transfer data from your Xbox 360 Premium hard drive to the new one. An insider told Ars Technica:

I work for a large game distributor. MS disclosed this SKU to us a few weeks ago—definitely not a fake story. Price, features, color are all correct. MS has told us that the data will be transferred via some sort of cable that will be included with the unit. The cable will also be included w/ the 120GB drive that will be sold separately (price TBD).

0ubliette

unklerosco wrote:

Id say if its true it'll be announced today/tomorrow to try n take away from that thing Sony r releasing... Whats it called again??

i dunno, something with a boomerang controller or something?
all i ask from the 360 revision is pretty simple, and should have been there in the original, and thats BETTER BUILD QUALITY. No more lock ups playing GRAW2 MS, please!

koneko

Poopstation 3!

Seriously though, I haven't heard anything about any MS announcements, but if there is one, it'll be either this or another "X game will be on 360 too" (or exclusive).

KTRIC

http://www.t3.co.uk/news/247/games/xbox/black_xbox_360_confirmed

unklerosco

Looks like they just took that from the other sites...

TheMilkyPirate

Microsoft spokesperson has said there will be a big announcement this coming wednesday.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/games/microsoft-keeps-quiet-on-xbox-elite/2007/03/26/1174761330614.html

LookingFor

There's pictures of the system in a Chinese factory taken in February floating around the web at the moment:





I hope they announce it for Europe, and that it will launch soon. I'm holding off on my 360 purchase for this. I REALLY hope that the internals are revised too, so it runs more reliably and quietly.

KTRIC

IN YOUR FACE SONY

I love being right, can't wait to get one of these babies:D

Wonder would Microsoft do a deal with game stores and let you trade in your old 360 and let u get this new console cheaper.

Clank

hellboy99 wrote:

Wonder would Microsoft do a deal with game stores and let you trade in your old 360 and let u get this new console cheaper.

It'd be great if they did, but I seriously doubt it.

The_B_Man

tbh, im tihnkin that MS has releases this one with all the fancy new features, but with also some extra anti-modding solutions built in so as to make it 99.9% or even 100% un-moddable. With the HDMI and bigger HDD and all the rest, it'll almost certainly make ppl purchase the unmoddable version.