My excellent poetry essay (well sentence) for paper II

theliam

I hate poetry and hence dont study it. this is what i wrote in my mock for the sylvia plath question -

This statement reflects what i believe, it is not a pleasant thought, that of her killing herself by means of gas with her children asleep upstairs, which comes to mind during her depressing poems, especially 'child' which was written only two weeks before she turned on the oven.

im still hopefull that i passed, ive heard its very hard to fail english...

AdMMM

I can sense a big fat zero coming in for that answer. If you wrote a tonne of waffle than the examiner would have an excuse to offer you at least some marks but trying to give you marks for that would be akin to getting blood from a stone!

Contrary to what you may have heard, people do fail English (2% scored an E or less in HL English in 2006)

Nehpets

You wrote one sentence ???

Steve01

ROFL! Oh man, you are so screwed.

spudington16

God.. If you really want to at least pass why not attempt an essay? If you knew she gassed herself, wrote a poem called "Child" and was depressed I'd imagine you could have bluffed your way to a pass in that section alone....

md99

do you care about your LC at all? I don't think the corrector will be interested in your excuses about not liking poetry... Many don't, but they put up with it for points' sake.

I don't see how someone willing to write just a sentence for poetry would still be concerned about passing!

duckmusic

Tell me your joking..

Your best bet is to learn off a few questions for this section and try drag it into whatever question your asked (within reason). At least then the marker has something on which he can award marks. There isn't too much he can do with an answer you gave

Tomlowe

I dunno, it shows good understanding of the context in which the poem was written, a level of personal response, and an appraisal of the intended effect on the reader. Obviously it's no A1, not even a B3, but i'd give that more marks than "I loooooooove sylvia plaths poetry. for the next 3 pages i am going to say what happens in the poems...."

C2

md99

Tomlowe wrote:

I dunno, it shows good understanding of the context in which the poem was written, a level of personal response, and an appraisal of the intended effect on the reader. Obviously it's no A1, not even a B3, but i'd give that more marks than "I loooooooove sylvia plaths poetry. for the next 3 pages i am going to say what happens in the poems...."

C2

Surely an honour can't be awarded to "This statement reflects what i believe, it is not a pleasant thought, that of her killing herself by means of gas with her children asleep upstairs, which comes to mind during her depressing poems, especially 'child' which was written only two weeks before she turned on the oven." The thing that will annoy the examiner the most is that the OP sounds like he has some potential... A corrector is more annoyed by misused potential than an honest attempt from someone with very little..

theliam

md99 wrote:

do you care about your LC at all? I don't think the corrector will be interested in your excuses about not liking poetry... Many don't, but they put up with it for points' sake.

I don't see how someone willing to write just a sentence for poetry would still be concerned about passing!

of course i care about passing, all i need is a D3 and ill be happy (its not one of my 6). anyway my macbeth essay was pretty good but i cant say very much for my comparitive either

theliam

Tomlowe wrote:

I dunno, it shows good understanding of the context in which the poem was written, a level of personal response, and an appraisal of the intended effect on the reader. Obviously it's no A1, not even a B3, but i'd give that more marks than "I loooooooove sylvia plaths poetry. for the next 3 pages i am going to say what happens in the poems...."

C2

thank you tom, didnt realise that was you for a minute there

AdMMM

I dunno, it shows good understanding of the context in which the poem was written, a level of personal response, and an appraisal of the intended effect on the reader. Obviously it's no A1, not even a B3, but i'd give that more marks than "I loooooooove sylvia plaths poetry. for the next 3 pages i am going to say what happens in the poems...."

C2

For a split second I thought you were being serious...

JC 2K3

OMG ur such a rebel like.

That isn't even a very well structured sentence...

You'll get a zero.

PeterMC

If u fail english do you fail th LC? or is that just maths...

JC 2K3

Nope, failing English does indeed mean you fail your LC.

theliam

JC 2K3 wrote:

OMG ur such a rebel like.

That isn't even a very well structured sentence...

You'll get a zero.

ok... yeah im a real rebel.

definatley wont get a zero in that, i wont get very much but it wont be a zero. anyway i did fine in paper I and some of paper II

Steve01

theliam wrote:

ok... yeah im a real rebel.

definatley wont get a zero in that, i wont get very much but it wont be a zero. anyway i did fine in paper I and some of paper II

Examiners hate smart-arses. Never mind your result. Count yourself lucky if the corrector doesn't hunt you down and beat the living sh*t out of you.

*lil fairy*

by reading the sentence u wrote.......u cud of got such a good answer out of it! i mean u no bout her.......y waste a whole line of paper on her gasing herself.........thats what makes her interestin in my opinion! sylvia was genius!

u'l av pissed d examiner off real bad too! u shud of waffled on! :rolleyes:

nd last word! : Sylvia is klass cos she was depressed so u can babble so much bout how depressin her poetry is! nd wat it al means underneath it al!

agree r disagree theliam!?

Nehpets

lil fairy, how long does it take you to type like that?

Donald-Duck

*lil fairy* wrote:

by reading the sentence u wrote.......u cud of got such a good answer out of it! i mean u no bout her.......y waste a whole line of paper on her gasing herself.........thats what makes her interestin in my opinion! sylvia was genius!

u'l av pissed d examiner off real bad too! u shud of waffled on! :rolleyes:

nd last word! : Sylvia is klass cos she was depressed so u can babble so much bout how depressin her poetry is! nd wat it al means underneath it al!

agree r disagree theliam!?

Do you write like that?

md99

theliam wrote:

ok... yeah im a real rebel.

definatley wont get a zero in that, i wont get very much but it wont be a zero. anyway i did fine in paper I and some of paper II

I dunno mate, I reckon you're in for a big fat round red mark myself....

Nehpets

He'll get a few marks I'd say. Less than 10.

Naikon

JC 2K3 wrote:

Nope, failing English does indeed mean you fail your LC.

No I disagree, Failing a particular subject does not mean you fail your LC.

Insect Overlord

Naikon wrote:

No I disagree, Failing a particular subject does not mean you fail your LC.

You need to pass English, Irish and maths. Or else. As regards theliam's answer, you'll be very lucky indeed to get any marks for that. Anything less than two and a half pages struggles to make a B3 for most correctors.

Naikon

Well, for third level matriculation purposes I suppose, but you cant really "fail" the LC.
The sheet is just a statement of results.
A bare minimum "pass" LC is a pass in any 5 subjects.

Nehpets

You don't need irish for Trinity do you?

Naikon

I think so I am afraid.

Haven't a Clue

theliam wrote:

of course i care about passing, all i need is a D3 and ill be happy (its not one of my 6). anyway my macbeth essay was pretty good but i cant say very much for my comparitive either

Why, what'd ya write there?

"Yes, there is four different styles of kingship in Macbeth. Duncan was a goodie, but a bit rubbish at figuring out who's who. Edward was meant to be some sort of a saintly bloke. Malcolm sounded good. Macbeth was a complete bastard though!"

Nehpets

Naikon wrote:

I think so I am afraid.

Requirements for TCD:

1. A pass in English
2. A pass in Maths and a pass in a language other than English
3. A pass in 3 other subjects
4. 6 subjects must be presented in all and atleast 3 must be honours grade C or higher

LCVP is accepted for scoring purposes only.

JC 2K3

Naikon wrote:

Well, for third level matriculation purposes I suppose, but you cant really "fail" the LC.
The sheet is just a statement of results.
A bare minimum "pass" LC is a pass in any 5 subjects.

There's no definition of passing or failing the LC, but find a college that doesn't require a pass in English....


And no, you don't need Irish for Trinity, although it works both ways - for me I don't need French, so I don't have to waste my time with it (Although I'll end up with a B or C anyway)

cocoa

An Fhile wrote:

Anything less than two and a half pages struggles to make a B3 for most correctors.

umm, no. I did 2 pages, and got 38/50, comfortably. Quality>Quantity

shazzyshaz

i wholeheartedly agree with everybody above, your english is atrocious!!! simply and utterly hilarious!

CerebralCortex

Steve01 wrote:

Examiners hate smart-arses. Never mind your result. Count yourself lucky if the corrector doesn't hunt you down and beat the living sh*t out of you.

Why I can't imagine any fate worse than having to correct English papers. The most boring subject with the most illusive reasons for its existence. It would be like water in the desert. Then again I have nothing but contempt for the subject anyway so... BTW the mocks do not count. Also the leaving cert is very poor measure of ones intellectual skills and more a measure of maturity and organisational skill.

Bottom line I'm just ranting cause I feel cheated out of my precious time after having to prove to people I'm smart enough to go to college when they themselves aren't smart enough to realise that cd's produce better quality sound then tapes.
Retards.

ARRRAGARAGGHHH!!!!

AdMMM

All the aural exams are supplied on CD and Tape. Tapes are only used when a CD player isn't available.

CerebralCortex

|.Murderer.| wrote:

All the aural exams are supplied on CD and Tape. Tapes are only used when a CD player isn't available.

I think you missed the point.

JC 2K3

I think I did too. Care to explain?

sternn

I get you man, and completely agree with you!! I believe the structure of the leaving cert is flawed. It shouldn't be based on the amount you can learn off, or on how well you can do some stupid questions. It can hide your intelluctual skills, meaning that those who have the brains, but do not bother their arse studying (learning stuff off), may not make it to college.

JC 2K3

Brains alone won't get you anywhere. The whole point of the LC is to seperate people based on their ability to work hard. It's not an IQ test.

Although there are Maths, Applied Maths and to a certain extent Physics for those of us who are naturally smart and don't like just learning stuff off.

CerebralCortex

JC 2K3 wrote:

Brains alone won't get you anywhere. The whole point of the LC is to seperate people based on their ability to work hard. It's not an IQ test.

Although there are Maths, Applied Maths and to a certain extent Physics for those of us who are naturally smart and don't like just learning stuff off.

I think you're getting closer to my point.

JC 2K3

Ok....

It was an odd example.

And you're just lazy.

Naikon

LOL:D

I have to admit though, the English Exam is really hit and miss, I got a
C1 in Higher(mock result though:() by doing absolutely no study for the
subject whereas people who "loved" the subject fared worse.
they certainly deserve to do better than me in June:)

Its a joke, I mean the English exam is so subjective, and a more "liberal" examiner is almost always going to ensure a higher result.
Take Maths for example, unlike the shoddy mock correctors, I am surprised at how generous correctors have to be by giving attempt marks on a regular basis to help "top up" the weaker people.
Not like the mocks where attempts weren't given in most cases and a worked out wrong answer which resulted in either 2 or 0 marks:rolleyes:

Whereas in English, I wouldn't be surprised if I dropped 5% , as even though the teacher told me I deserved the mark.....I have my doubts:o

cocoa

I'm not so sure, I feel some parts of the english course are really good. The comprehension and to a certain extent the three critical essays really do train students in the proper formation and articulation of ideas (depending on how much of the work is their own). I really do wish people would stop complaining about the LC though. Sure it's not perfect, but unless you have something better to suggest, why bother complaining?

nervous_twitch

JC 2K3 wrote:

I don't need French, so I don't have to waste my time with it (Although I'll end up with a B or C anyway)

is there some sort of clause which obliges you to say that in nearly all of your posts? :rolleyes:

JC 2K3

Hmm... I do mention it a bit too often, but then again its always in response to a question involving it, for instance, someone in this thread asked a question in relation to languages needed for Trinity, another thread I mentioned it in was about ignoring a subject.

Then again, everyone mentions the things that make thier approach to the LC unique quite frequently. Naikon frequently says he thinks History and English are "a joke", Jakkass frequently remarks on how wonderful a subject Religion is, many posters declare their hate for Physics etc.

nervous_twitch

Heh. Sorry; excuse the early morning narkiness of a hungover French student

shazzyshaz

[PHP]I have to admit though, the English Exam is really hit and miss, I got a
C1 in Higher(mock result though) by doing absolutely no study for the
subject whereas people who "loved" the subject fared worse.
they certainly deserve to do better than me in June[/PHP]

I agree, well i LOVE the subject or thought i did! and have usually done well, but only ended up with a fat C1 in the mock!!:(:(

md99

shazzyshaz wrote:

[PHP]I have to admit though, the English Exam is really hit and miss, I got a
C1 in Higher(mock result though) by doing absolutely no study for the
subject whereas people who "loved" the subject fared worse.
they certainly deserve to do better than me in June[/PHP]

I agree, well i LOVE the subject or thought i did! and have usually done well, but only ended up with a fat C1 in the mock!!:(:(

ignore the mocks... English mocks can be absolutely anything they want to be... Mock results always vary hugely in the way they're corrected from class to class, all depends on the corrector... Plenty of A students got high Cs in our class, likewise with Bs...

shazzyshaz

ignore the mocks... English mocks can be absolutely anything they want to be... Mock results always vary hugely in the way they're corrected from class to class, all depends on the corrector... Plenty of A students got high Cs in our class, likewise with Bs...

hmmmm cheers MD...gave me a lil boost of confidence!

I would suggest that everyone who is taking the leaving should stop using txt-speak. Trust me. It's just idiotic.

theliam

i told you all i wouldnt get a 0, i got 3/50. unfortunatley paper I was nt too good either so i got 35 overall. another 5% in 6 weeks shouldnt be too much of a struggle

shazzyshaz

ROFL this is the funniest post EVER!! nuff said. gluck to you and ur exam!! ure screwed!