Friday 16th of March

Colonel Sanders

Thought I'd get in before anyone else!!!

Triumph is a tough race this year. I liked the look of Degas art since he made a winning debut over hurdles but was really worried about Howard Johnsons stable form. The runs of Tidal bay and Inglis Drever no longer make his form a worry so i will have a small ew on him.

No matter how much I say i won't I know i'll the heart rule the head and back leading run in the 3miler. To be honest the only thing in his favour is the step up to 3 miles. I though they'd wait for fairyhouse with him for the grade 2 Vic venturi won last yr. Don't slag me for this as I am fully admitting that I shouldn't back him!! Witchita lineman has obvious claims especially on a line thro the first and second in the Ballymore yesterady and flight leader's January form has been upheld in the stayers. A cracking little race.

Will probably just watch the gold cup and for all I hate Paul Nicholls I hope Kauto star destroys the gold cup field. Will probably not carry my cash but I'd love to see him confirm his superstar status.

Foxhunters is a no bet race for me. Whyso mayo looks very clasy for a hunter chaser but can throw in the odd wobbler at his fences. A worthy fav. I'll be cheering on First Down Jets as Liam Burke is a man I respect greatly and would love to see a local (well local enuf!!) trainer take a festival race.

I have backed saintsaire at 7s and was delighted that Nicholls left sporazene in. H has a good chance but will have to have improved from his last run to win this. Happy with 7/1 but will start very short tomorrow especially if Kauto wins the Gold CUp. i might chance a specultive ew on bambi de L'orme if 33s is still available as he is well weighted to reverse form with saintsaire and ran well off a higher mark when attempting the impossible 2 yrs ago (i.e. beating Fota island who had about 2-2.5 stone in hand)

The nicholls hotpot in the county has looked soft over hurdles and I couldn't back it to come up the hill. A no bet race for me but would love to see maralan run well for Patrick Brady, who knows maybe he'll traet the crowd to a full striptease if he wins!!!

ChuckProphet

likewise fancy degas art in the triumph. haven't really looked at the rest. backed the listener antepost for gold cup when it looked like being a bog but don't fancy it now :mad: talk of pulling it out. Am very tempted to have a hefty one on kauto star

cabla

Lunaos
Cane braker

DtotheK

i agree ^
cane brake each way the way to go! (even better i got hem at 33 to 1):D

Kamaldihnio

These tips were sent from Pat Power to employees. As you can see he is better at running a business than backing horses but still good to keep in mind. I think I will be bouncing off the genius who posted all the winners on boards for the last 3 days and Paddy Powers selections for Friday. Please mate, put your predictions in as early as possible tommorow. Are you God in disguise???

From: Power, Paddy
Sent: 12 March 2007 15:41
To: All of Paddy Power
Subject: Tips for Cheltenham



Hi Everybody,



If you have any sense you’ll hit delete right about now!



Below is a quick summary of what the experts reckon is their best bet of Cheltenham, I’ve also included my own personal fancies so feel free to either give me a hard time……or 10% commission!



Be lucky, and remember….the good guys always get out!



Cheers,



Paddy



Nick Luck (C4 & RUK presenter) – Amaretto Rose (Tues)

David Dickinson (handicapper) – Newmill (Wed)

Mark Johnson (commentator) – Wichita Lineman (Fri) & (Kill Devil Hill if it runs on Tuesday)

Damien McElroy (Irish Indo) – Far from Trouble (Tues)

Tony Mullins (trainer) – Well Chief (Wed)

Andrew Thornton (jockey) – Denman (Wed) & Juveignuer (Tues)

Jonathan Powell (BBC) – King Revo (Thurs) & Saintsaire (Fri)

Davy Russell (jockey) – Star Performance (Tues)

Ruby Walsh (jockey) – Denman (Wed)

David Pipe (trainer) – Well Chief (Wed)

David Duggan (ATR) – Gemini Lucy (Tues)

Mike Cattermole (C4) – Well Chief (Wed)



And here are the ones I’m backing:

Tues:

Granit Jack

Hardy Eustace

Star Performance

Belord



Wed:

Catch Me

Snowy Morning

Newmill

Whatulike



Thurs:

New Little Bric

Too Forward

Inglis Drever

Character Building



Fri:

Lounaos

Black Harry

Forget the Past

Gone to Lunch

Caracciola

Kamaldihnio

As far as I am concerned everyone should be throwing their tips on here. No better way to beat the bookie. COME ON LADS. CHIP IN THERE! We all go loko tommorow nite with our winnings.

scojones

Sweet suffering Jesus....

kincsem

I know nothing about jumps racing.
OK, I've backed My Will in the Gold Cup at 21.
He is trained By Paul Nicholls
He is very slow, and couldn't jump a twig.

killbillvol2

scojones wrote:

Sweet suffering Jesus....

Not sure he stays...:)

DSB

2:00 Lounaos 4/1
2:35 Wichita Lineman 6/4
3:15 The Listener 9/1 Each Way
4:00 Why So Mayo 3/1
4:40 Tysou 14/1 Each Way
5:20 Sweet Wake 10/1 Each Way

Healio

Just for an interest tomorrow: (i have my money made!! )

Chel 14:00 Liberate
Chel 14:00 To Be Placed Liberate
Chel 14:35 Flight Leader
Chel 15:15 Kauto Star Lay
Chel 15:15 Exotic Dancer
Chel 15:15 Beef Or Salmon
Chel 15:15 Cane Brake
Chel 15:15 Kingscliff
Chel 15:15 Halcon Genelardais
Chel 16:00 To Be Placed Sonevafushi
Chel 16:40 To Be Placed Andreas
Chel 17:20 Cadogan
Chel 17:20 Maralan

lafors

Exotic Dancer in the Gold Cup. Kauto Star will fall at the second last or last, it's a cracking horse but just gets too excited in the closing stages and makes tiny mistakes. Another thing, I remember Ted Walsh saying yesterday moring on C4 that AP had dropped a fair bit of weight to ride Moncadou yesterday.

Well thats what I'm hoping, the bookies are loving me this year, though I absolutely fleeced them last year

KingKenny7

Trainbird about and his wonderful tips????

My team here have won 200 yesterday (well I won it) We're splitting the money with 2 horses a race. And good tips??? I want a first and second on each race he he he (we can all live in hope)

ChuckProphet

2:00 Degas Art
2:35 Flight Leader
3:15 Kauto Star
5:20 Sweet Wake

mickc

I'll be backing chief dan george EW in the 2.35. 30-1 on betfair

Wichita Lineman is very skinny price and through a line of form with Hills of Aran hopefully he won't be far away..

mickc

KingKenny7 wrote:

Trainbird about and his wonderful tips????

My team here have won 200 yesterday (well I won it) We're splitting the money with 2 horses a race. And good tips??? I want a first and second on each race he he he (we can all live in hope)

His tips are in the Mighty Fine Picking thread.

I think this thread is for people who pick their own horses!!:eek:

DeadParrot

Duty & Hairy Molly carry my hopes today.

spareman

5.20 Sweet wake
This guy usually gives me lots of tips for horses, and I normally do well outta him, Ive been asking him for tips everyday this week and this is the only one his given me all week. His 10/1 at the moment, so I will have a good e/w punt on him, and exoctic dancer in the cup, thats all Im doing today.

steveymp@hotmai

Has to be Beef or Salmon in the Gold Cup but thats heart over head;)

Would just love to see it pip KS by a neck on the line:D

Bullensroad

2.00 Katchit win
2.35 Black Harry eway
3.15 Exotic Dancer (If Kauto takes a tumble)
4.00 Whyso Mayo win
4.40 Saintsaire win
5.20 Maralan eway (Please God let Oliver Brady win a race at Cheltenham!)

keepitquiet

steveymp@hotmai wrote:

Has to be Beef or Salmon in the Gold Cup but thats heart over head;)

Would just love to see it pip KS by a neck on the line:D

if that happens ill double your return:)

gamb1or

Exotic Dancer to win the gold cup

Halcon Genelardais e/w

also have small e/w bets on tarlac, my petra, bob bob bobbin and negus de beaumount

AS_PokerKing

If u back every horse in every race u wil be able to say u picked a winner in every race at Cheltenam.....an honour not held by many men

aidankk

Ew Cheltenham form double for today, success yesterday with idole first and rasharrow.



Greenhope 4:40 20/1 likes chel going etc should be placed
Arcalis 5:20 20/1 Same as above, good chel form, need good ground.

DSB

Kauto Star seems like a nice lay. I think the low odds its at are ridiculous considering Paddy Power is also giving 5/2 odds on it falling. Its almost like they are saying that if the horse doesn't fall it will win, which isn't strictly true. Its definitely the classiest of the horses but plenty can happen.

keepitquiet

DSB wrote:

Its almost like they are saying that if the horse doesn't fall it will win, which isn't strictly true.

it may not be but it aint far of the truth...

eamonnq

DSB wrote:

Kauto Star seems like a nice lay. I think the low odds its at are ridiculous considering Paddy Power is also giving 5/2 odds on it falling. Its almost like they are saying that if the horse doesn't fall it will win, which isn't strictly true. Its definitely the classiest of the horses but plenty can happen.

Boyles are giving 7/1 about him finising worse than 4th (but finishing!!)

chris_oc

can someone please tell me what this whole "1pt" or "0.5pt" thing means?!ive seen it on a load of tips and just dont have a clue what it means!

RasTa

1pt is a tenner.

chris_oc

Ahh!haha feel kinda stupid now:p thanks for clearin that up for me buddy!

DSB

keepitquiet wrote:

it may not be but it aint far of the truth...

Kauto Stars stamina is by no means perfect. If it has an errorfree run I'd definitely consider it likely win. But there are other horses in that race that could still beat it on their best run. Some of those being at pretty long odds. I just think theres huge value in a 6/4 lay on a horse that there are huge doubts surrounding. I felt the same about Well Chief and backed Voy Por instead and that 1 worked out. Not to say this will but theres definitely value in it.

Crumbs

1 point means betting whatever your normal bet size is. For you it could €3, for me it could be €50, for someone else it could be €1,000. 2 points then indicates increased confidence and recommends doubling your bet. Et cetera.

Normally, people would work on confidence levels up to a max of 3pts or sometimes 5pts.

Old_-_School

chris_oc wrote:

can someone please tell me what this whole "1pt" or "0.5pt" thing means?!ive seen it on a load of tips and just dont have a clue what it means!

1 pt is one pint of guinness. For some bookies you can just put a pint of guinness on the counter and say I'll put that on L'ami in the Gold Cup.
Yesterday I put a pint on L'Antartique which came home at 20/1. THe bookies gave me 21 pints of guinness but it wasn't such a good idea as the head on the 21st one was fierce manky by the time I came to drinking it.

6th

Ok I missed the first one anyone knw the first 4 home?

shrapnel222

6th wrote:

Ok I missed the first one anyone knw the first 4 home?

1st 11 Katchit (IRE) 11-2
2nd 13 Liberate 12-1
3rd 16 Mobaasher (USA) 33-1
4th punjabi

6th

Ah shíte!

Cheers Shrapnel.

keepitquiet

DSB wrote:

Kauto Stars stamina is by no means perfect.

i dont doubt his stamina at all, especially on good-soft ground as it was at kempton. the only time the horse's stamina can be questioned is when it makes stupid mistakes at fences. if it makes them mistakes here at cheltenham the horse wont get away with it and will not stay on its feet. therefore, unless it makes bad errors which is likely imo nothing will be near it. imo backing it would be risky, laying it would be stupid so im not betting in the race:) but questioning its stamina is stupid, most horses that make rly bad mistakes dont win, it stamina is grand.

DSB

As I said, I'd still consider it the most likely of all the horses to win if it has an errorfree run. My point was that I still reckon there is horses in that race with the potential to find more. Making 6/4 very short odds on a horse with a tendency to fall. This horse is a good horse but it has alot to prove before its a great one.

shrapnel222

2-35

results:

1st 20 Wichita Lineman (IRE) 11-8 F
2nd 1 Air Force One (GER) 25-1
3rd 9 Itsa Legend 100-1

DeadParrot

You know what....I'd nearly put a few bob on Beef or Salmon. He was taken over by plane instead of shipped to the tune of over £25000. Its his festival swansong, more than likely.
Feck it 5 e/w

keepitquiet

this is it now, will it fall...

mickc

Hopefully not...

Come on Kauto Star, I need to buy shiny expensive things!!

kenco

Great horse but what a ride by Ruby! Great jockey and a great ride he gave the horse!

One of our great sportsmen

homerjk

Well I stayed from the favourites in this one because of whats been going on all week so i got on a horse from here Thanks Barry!:)

Edited: Apologies for the after timing.

DSB

Fair play. Great run. I think some of the placings might have been different if it wasn't for the loose horse though. Seemed to stop a few horses from being able to run their preferred race. Don't think anything would have beaten Kauto anyway though.

KingKenny7

top 4 please in work cant check

DSB

Havent got the odds on me but it was
Kauto Star
Exotic Dancer
Turpin Green
Monkerhostin

smash

Jesus, that loose horse messed it up for exotic dancer...

anyway, what about the 4.00 ....

I have first down jets

kenco

1 Kauto Star
2 Exotic Dancer
3 Turpin Green
4 Monkerhostin

mickc

steve06 wrote:

Jesus, that loose horse messed it up for exotic dancer...

anyway, what about the 4.00 ....

I have first down jets

Don't think exotic would have won it, loose horse or not.

smash

I had Monkerhostin e/w but paddy power we're only paying out for first 3...