Advice needed on breaking up table in MTT's please.

Rockfish

I could do with a bit of help here boardies. I have been roped into being a sort of tournament director at our weekly pub tourney, It was no problem when it was only 1 or 2 table but we now regularly have 4 or 5 tables and while im pretty au fiat with most rules im not sure about breaking tables up and moving players.

The software we use will do it randomly and players take their newly allotted seats wityhout any *hassle but problems arise if for example a player who was big blind on the broken table is allocated the Big Blind position at his new table, but the rules clearly state that a player moving to a new table must assume the responsibilities of his new position, except if he is placed between button and small blind. The same hassle arises if a small blind comes in to the small blind position etc. Im confused.:( Any suggestions??

MickL

Rockfish wrote:

I could do with a bit of help here boardies. I have been roped into being a sort of tournament director at our weekly pub tourney, It was no problem when it was only 1 or 2 table but we now regularly have 4 or 5 tables and while im pretty au fiat with most rules im not sure about breaking tables up and moving players.

The software we use will do it randomly and players take their newly allotted seats wityhout any *hassle but problems arise if for example a player who was big blind on the broken table is allocated the Big Blind position at his new table, but the rules clearly state that a player moving to a new table must assume the responsibilities of his new position, except if he is placed between button and small blind. The same hassle arises if a small blind comes in to the small blind position etc. Im confused.:( Any suggestions??

the most simple way to do it is a seat draw but if a player comes in on the BB after just payin it thats just tough luck its a rondom seat draw in most cases where the player comes in on the SB he will more or likely sit out the hand till the button passes which is the most likely scenario!!!!

Rockfish

the most simple way to do it is a seat draw but if a player comes in on the BB after just payin it thats just tough luck its a rondom seat draw

That was my argument but didnt always go down to well.

most cases where the player comes in on the SB he will more or likely sit out the hand till the button passes which is the most likely scenario!!!

Surely if the BB has to assume responsibility then the same would go for the SB?

Goodluck2me

actually now you can come into the SB so long as there hasnt been a hand between when the player in that place previously being knocked out and the new player coming in. seat draws are the way to go, and with regard to people being unhappy, who will be delighted that they have to pay BB twice you are TD rule and move on.

Rockfish

Thanks for that lads.

you are TD rule and move on.

Oh i certainly od, just wasnt 100% sure that i was right, thats all.

Mellor

it might be easier if you move people into similar positions.
4 tables. 6 players on each. split table 4
on table 4
players 1 & 4 move to table 1. player 1 takes worst available seat, such as the earliest. player 4 takes the seat further away from the seat.
pair players 2&5 and 3&6.

MickL

that rule coming in on the SB will get very confusing for a TD on his first night or so!! id leave it till im more accustomed to it!! and that rule only really aplies if the player was knocked out of the sb position on th previous hand!! one thing you must remember when you puttin players in on the blinds is that the playre on the table that WASN'T broke cant play the BB twice!!!

Good luck with this rockfish ya need any advise dont hesitate t pm me!

BigDragon

Rockfish wrote:

Oh i certainly od,

Welcome to the TD fraternity. It looks like you'll fit in fine.

Rockfish

one thing you must remember when you puttin players in on the blinds is that the playre on the table that WASN'T broke cant play the BB twice!!!

For the sake of argument let us assume that the dealer and sb on a table have all busted out on the one hand and a broken table has two plyers coming to this table and they assume the dealer and sb seats. What happens now to the bb? :

DITTag

Rockfish wrote:

For the sake of argument let us assume that the dealer and sb on a table have all busted out on the one hand and a broken table has two plyers coming to this table and they assume the dealer and sb seats. What happens now to the bb? :

The person who had been BB last would now be Sb and the person who is just sitting down would be dealer

Rockfish

Let me put it another way....

For the sake of argument let us assume that the players who would be dealer and sb on a table for the next hand have all busted out on the one hand and a broken table has two plyers coming to this table and they assume the dealer and sb seats. What happens now to the bb?

MickL

If im reading this right the player that was UTG is now BB alone with a dead button on the player that arrived to the previous SB seat the next hand the button stays and the SB and BB is posted!!!!

Mellor

Rockfish wrote:

Let me put it another way....

For the sake of argument let us assume that the players who would be dealer and sb on a table for the next hand have all busted out on the one hand and a broken table has two plyers coming to this table and they assume the dealer and sb seats. What happens now to the bb?

nothing happens to the BB player, he busted out. "the sb for the next hand" is the previous BB.
so the players assume the dealer and sb seats, and the previous UTG player is now the BB. As it is supposed to be