Samantha Mumba called 'monkey' by Miss Scotland

Brian Capture

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2031210,00.html

wrote:

The reigning Miss Scotland was embroiled yesterday in the latest racism row to be played out in the media after she called the black singer and actress Samantha Mumba 'a monkey' on a live radio programme. Nicola McLean, 22, later insisted she was 'not racist' and apologised for her remarks. She joins a string of politicians and celebrities who have had to apologise recently for inappropriate language on race.

Very unfortunate - in the sense that anything that gives publicity to this hideously untalented and grotesque charlatan is bad.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Didn't someone call her a monkey before this, a few years ago?
Or is this the same incident. o_O

And isn't it fantastically hypocritical and racist in itself to acknowledge (worse - even assume) 'monkey' as an ethnic slur against black people and not against white people?

Rest assured if a black person said George Bush looked like a monkey, there would be no racist accusations.

Methinks the people pointing the finger are showing their own prejudices.

Ciaran500

Hurray, insult a black person and you're racist now.

Brian Capture

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote:

Didn't someone call her a monkey before this, a few years ago?
Or is this the same incident. o_O

This just happened recently and is reported in today's paper.

Someone called her 'Spa-mantha Mumbo-Jumbo' before.

Zombrex

Ciaran500 wrote:

Hurray, insult a black person and you're racist now.

Initially that is what I thought when I say the original post (I call my friends kid a little monkey a few days ago, and he is of Indian descent. But I did it because he was climbing over a chest of draws trying to show off)

But then one has to wonder why one would call Samantha Mumba a "monkey" if it wasn't a racial slur referencing to the fact that she is black. She doesn't look very monkey like does she, nor do I think she climbs over chests of draws, though that would be interesting to see

Brian Capture

How many tickets had she sold before she cancelled that gig?

30?
180?

Finally people are seeing through the smokescreen.

Pherekydes

Stupid fcuking reporters! The Scottish b!tch said our Northside Princess, "looked like a monkey". This isn't calling her a monkey. Don't reporters have a basic standard of English or reading/aural comprehension?

As to the insult, surely that is a matter of opinion? I think she looks super (but can't sing), but if someone else says she looks ugly, so be it. Nothing to do with race, and nothing a trip to Specs express couldn't fix.

Why didn't she just say she looked like the back of a bus?

eth0_

Wicknight wrote:

She doesn't look very monkey like does she, nor do I think she climbs over chests of draws, though that would be interesting to see

I think she kind of does, I mean she's not got a very nice face at all, if you've seen her IRL you will agree. I think it's her jaw or sth that makes her face look a bit ugly.

r3nu4l

Funny thing is that years ago the Irish were often compared with monkeys and "negros"...
Link

So next time someone refers to a child as a 'little monkey' you can accuse them of racism and commence stoning them

Mossy Monk

Slow coach wrote:

but if someone else says she looks ugly, so be it. Nothing to do with race, and nothing a trip to Specs express couldn't fix.

i could never see the appeal myself

Pighead

Its utter tosh to call poor Samantha Mumba a monkey. Its blindly obvious that its an ape she looks like. People assume that monkeys and apes are the same but these people are fools.

Apes, such as gorillas and chimpanzees, have evolved along parallel lines with human beings, and are genetically are quite close to us. On the evolutionary tree, apes are no more monkeys than we are.


http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/k/r/krm227/Planet%20of%20the%20Apes/nova02lg.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/b/A/N/barnyard073106y.jpg

Nevyn

Slow coach wrote:

Stupid fcuking reporters! The Scottish b!tch said our Northside Princess, "looked like a monkey".

She's a fooking Southsider, unless they moved all of TALLA to the other side of the liffey.

FlutterinBantam

Huuuup.. Go on ya good thing!!!

simu

Really... who cares?


Answer: I'll probably see about 10 in-depth columns on this earth-shattering news in the Sunday papers.

/sighs

wyndham

Thaedydal wrote:

She's a fooking Southsider, unless they moved all of TALLA to the other side of the liffey.

She's northside, unless they moved Drumcondra to Tallaght.

Dave!

Wicknight wrote:

Initially that is what I thought when I say the original post (I call my friends kid a little monkey a few days ago, and he is of Indian descent. But I did it because he was climbing over a chest of draws trying to show off)

But then one has to wonder why one would call Samantha Mumba a "monkey" if it wasn't a racial slur referencing to the fact that she is black. She doesn't look very monkey like does she, nor do I think she climbs over chests of draws, though that would be interesting to see

She looks very much like a monkey to me, I've always thought so (black-ish skin or not)

Maybe it's just me and Miss Scotland who think that!

Pighead

Pighead can confirm that Miss Scotland is definitely not a racist. She does compares different people to animals depending on their main characteristics. For example the night after she won the title, her and I got together and we made long sweaty and sticky passionate love.

Since that night she's christened me "Horseman". She told me she slept with a guy from boards who goes by the name of "The Scientist", or "Maggotman" as she calls him

Lemming

wyndham wrote:

She's northside, unless they moved Drumcondra to Tallaght.

Who cares.

In the immortal words of the late and very great Mr.Hicks

Bill Hicks wrote:

... the musicians today who don't take drugs, and in fact speak against it? `were rock against drugs`. boy, they suck ha ha ha! suck. ball-ess, soul-less, spiritless, corporate little bitches, suckers of satans cock, each and every one of em.

Karoma

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Mumba#Biography )

An Irish comedian (James Young?) remarked on the resemblance and got into a lot of trouble for it, years back.
http://migration.ucc.ie/examiner/examiner10nov3.htm


For the interests of the barrel-scraping 'reporters': She looks like a monkey. A slutty monkey. Oh, yeah.

Time Magazine

She looks no more like a monkey than Tar.

ghostdancer

wyndham wrote:

She's northside, unless they moved Drumcondra to Tallaght.

aye, she nearly ran me down a while back when she broke a red light at the lights outside Quinn's in drumcondra, just up the road from where she lives.

faceman

anyone ever the see the episode of south park that was about racism? The flag of south park had a black person (or 2, cant remember) bein hung while white folk were lookin. Chef interpreted as racist but the kids didnt and he was thick with them. The reason they didnt think it was racist because they werent lookin at skin colour. It was a good episode and summed up media interpretation of racism

Pherekydes

Thaedydal wrote:

She's a fooking Southsider, unless they moved all of TALLA to the other side of the liffey.

Ha ha! Tallaght? Will ya go away outa that. Everybody knows she's from Drumcondra.

Catari Jaguar

I think she looks like a monkey, but more like a duck. Her and Nadine Coyle.

tallus

I think her bf is from Tallaght.

Catari Jaguar

She's going out with some American black celeb type now I think. Too good for the Irish now eh Samantha?? Fekn beeyatch

Ri_Nollaig

faceman wrote:

anyone ever the see the episode of south park that was about racism? The flag of south park had a black person (or 2, cant remember) bein hung while white folk were lookin. Chef interpreted as racist but the kids didnt and he was thick with them. The reason they didnt think it was racist because they werent lookin at skin colour. It was a good episode and summed up media interpretation of racism

South Park have summed a huge number of taboo's brillant, ever see the epiosde "good times with ninja weapons" ? Showed how America doesnt care about violence once sex is never mentioned

Dave!

Lil Kitten wrote:

She's going out with some American black celeb type now I think. Too good for the Irish now eh Samantha?? Fekn beeyatch

"BLACK"? That's a racist remark!

Zillah

The woman looks like a chimp ffs:

http://www.canehdian.com/non/artists/m/samanthamumba/samantha.jpg

faceman

Lil Kitten wrote:

She's going out with some American black celeb type now I think. Too good for the Irish now eh Samantha?? Fekn beeyatch

Yer man sisko who did the thong song.

Victor

Ibid wrote:

She looks no more like a monkey than Tar.

Another "black" reference!!!!

faceman

The poor monkeys

Thrill

faceman wrote:

The poor monkeys

Wont somebody think of the monkeys.

I never thought she was a looker in the first place tbh.

Call Me Jimmy

If she was lying there, and there was absolutely no work involved to get to that point and ye were feeling kinda ****ty ye would probably hit her

Karl Hungus

Zillah wrote:

The woman looks like a chimp ffs:

http://www.canehdian.com/non/artists/m/samanthamumba/samantha.jpg

Yeah, she kinda does, but just throw a bag over her head, and think of someone else, she'd be worth a shag.

Giblet

She looks nothing like a monkey!

Sinfonia

faceman wrote:

anyone ever the see the episode of south park that was about racism? The flag of south park had a black person (or 2, cant remember) bein hung while white folk were lookin. Chef interpreted as racist but the kids didnt and he was thick with them. The reason they didnt think it was racist because they werent lookin at skin colour. It was a good episode and summed up media interpretation of racism

They had another one too where Cartman hits Token in the head with a rock, and has to go to prison because it was deemed a Hate Crime,

so Stan, Kyle, Token (and maybe Kenny?), give a presentation to the Governor called 'Hate Crime Laws: A Savage Hypocrisy' saying that hate crime laws just create more division. It was great.

-"I'd really like to see you kids go down there and give that Governor a piece of my mind."
-"Why don't you do it?"
-"Oh he wouldn't listen to me"
-"Why not?"
-"Because I'm black"

Futureman

eth0_ wrote:

I think she kind of does, I mean she's not got a very nice face at all, if you've seen her IRL you will agree. I think it's her jaw or sth that makes her face look a bit ugly.

Absolutely - she totally looks like a monkey - I've always thought that!

Nunu

She lived in Crumlin for a good few years (southside) - she was a neighbour of my uncles, but don't know where she was born?

So Glad

Yes, was in a cafe this morning and this was on page 2 of the papers. What is wrong with the media these days?

Sonnenblumen

Brian Capture wrote:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2031210,00.html



Very unfortunate - in the sense that anything that gives publicity to this hideously untalented and grotesque charlatan is bad.

Hopefully few will take notice of your anal utterings. Tell me why not be more useful and clean up your local area!

Karl Hungus

So Glad wrote:

What is wrong with the media these days?

Racism makes big headlines. That's what's wrong.

It's like the whole thing with the Galwayfirst article about "African cabbies facing racism" when the reality was more along the lines of the african cabbies ripping people off, and generally not knowing where they're going, hence people not wanting to get another cab driven by an african. Had a discussion about it here.

Futureman

Nunu wrote:

She lived in Crumlin for a good few years (southside) - she was a neighbour of my uncles, but don't know where she was born?

Your point?

So Glad

Karl Hungus wrote:

Racism makes big headlines. That's what's wrong.

It's like the whole thing with the Galwayfirst article about "African cabbies facing racism" when the reality was more along the lines of the african cabbies ripping people off, and generally not knowing where they're going, hence people not wanting to get another cab driven by an african. Had a discussion about it here.

Yes. I really see worry in this because what would columnists jump on the racist tag so fast and freely for? What possible merits does that behold, bar paper sales (I think I've answered my question)? Complete fear mongering..

purple'n'gold

If, for instance I was to say that Robert Mugabe looked like an ape, I would be called all the racist names under the sun. On the other hand if I were to say Bertie Ahern looked like a chimp no one would take a blind bit of notice. Why? I wonder.

InFront

There are those who are too quick to jump on the racism bandwagon and call 'racist' where they really shouldn't, and then there are those who are too quick to jump on the racism-denial bandwagon, and hotly affirm their right to say a certain black person looks like a monkey. Monkey is a common enough racist call, I'm sure most people are aware of it, and this woman really shouldn't have used it.
It's not as bad as Ashley Cole and SWP getting subjected to monkey chants playing for England a few years back, but it was definitely in bad taste.

Karl Hungus

InFront wrote:

There are those who are too quick to jump on the racism bandwagon and call 'racist' where they really shouldn't, and then there are those who are too quick to jump on the racism-denial bandwagon, and hotly affirm their right to say a certain black person looks like a monkey. Monkey is a common enough racist call, I'm sure most people are aware of it, and this woman really shouldn't have used it.

Oh it was certainly racist, no argument from me there.

But what I'm more concerned about is the fact that 'Racism' seems to have been elevated to crime of the century, and being a murder, or a rapist, or even a paedophile. Someone goes out and kills someone, and it's barely fit for news, but if someone makes a derogatory about someone of another race, then the media is out baying for their blood.

I think in this case, miss Scotland's career is over. She'll never play this down, and she's probably never work again as a model, or on TV or such.

At the end of the day, all she really did was call someone a derogatory name. Nobody got hurt or anything, and anyone who hasn't been living in isolation has been called plenty of unsavoury things over the course of their life, and I'm sure that most people can take it on the chin. But because it was something said about a black person, the media puts on this mythic mantle of "Racism" that makes it the most horrible thing in the world.

InFront

Oh yeah no argument there, racism has become a full stop. It's like "anti-semitic" or "terrorist", no reasonable person defends such behaviour, so it became as easy 'crutch' for some people who perceive themselves to be disadvantaged.

It's inevitable that the media will catch hold of that and abuse it too, unfortunately their income is in hype. They love a story like this

Brian Capture

Sonnenblumen wrote:

Hopefully few will take notice of your anal utterings. Tell me why not be more useful and clean up your local area!

Do not abuse me.

WindSock

So what if she looks like a monkey. Whats wrong with calling a spade a monkey?

monkeyfudge

Pighead wrote:

Its utter tosh to call poor Samantha Mumba a monkey. Its blindly obvious that its an ape she looks like. People assume that monkeys and apes are the same but these people are fools.

Thank you!

I have to remind people of this about 5 or 6 times a day.

As for Mumba... if she looked like a monkey I'd have posters of her on my bedroom wall.... I don't... I have posters of Kim Hunter.