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Quality of jobs available in eire is crap

  • 03-03-2007 3:23pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭


    Anyone agree? seems mostly admin or data entry jobs are available in ireland unless your workin in construction. And the pay is rubbish in comparison to the rest of europe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 bashibazouk


    Where are you looking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Pablo


    holyrood85 : it all depends on your
    • Qualifications
    • Location
    • Experience
    Personally I know there are loads of jobs out there and employers are having a hard time finding people to fill them.

    As for pay scale, it depends again on many factors. But the relatively low tax rates in Ireland may hide a little when you are referencing say German where their base tax is about 40%-45%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭bill_ashmount


    There is plenty of well paying jobs in Ireland if you have the ambition to seek them out. Education isn't even necessarily a stumbling block either. I know plenty of people earning absolutley huge salaries (6 figures +) who have not got degrees etc. but who have a natural ability to do their chosen job.

    The jobs are out there if you really want them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭mick.fr


    holyrood85 wrote:
    Anyone agree? seems mostly admin or data entry jobs are available in ireland unless your workin in construction. And the pay is rubbish in comparison to the rest of europe.

    Ridiculous


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭mick.fr


    I know plenty of people earning absolutley huge salaries (6 figures +)

    That means million+
    ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Eh, no it doesn't. 6 figures = 100,000 or more. 6 zeroes, on the other hand...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭rediguana


    The OP is right in that there are many mundane jobs out there. The other posters are right in saying that there are good jobs out there too. It's a skill in itself to be able to locate the jobs worth finding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    Ireland is a small country you will find greener pastures abroad for sure. Thats not to say interesting work exists in Ireland. It's just harder to find then in the likes of the US or UK.

    The pay isn't rubbish compared to the rest of europe. From what I understand its one of the highest, how that compares to standard of living I do not know.

    You are a graduate from what I've seen or about to graduate. You can get higher starting salaries else where but it depends on what you want and where you want your career to go.

    Me for instance - when I did my placement year it was all about the money. I needed cash plain and simple. I got one of the highest salaries I could possibly get but now realise that I'd rather get paid less and work in an industry thats more appealing to me.

    So in summary do not associoate salary with quality of jobs otherwise you'll never find the job you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    holyrood85 wrote:
    Anyone agree? seems mostly admin or data entry jobs are available in ireland unless your workin in construction. And the pay is rubbish in comparison to the rest of europe.

    I think the rest of the replies sum up why I would not agree with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    Yeah, there's actually a good deal of quality work in many fields in Ireland - depends what you're looking for. Something like Mechanical Engineering, Physics, High Performance Computing or other "heavy" technical skills are thin on the ground for jobs and you're better off in UK/Europe, but if you have skills like sales, marketing, finance, pharmacy, electronics or anything construction-related, Irelands a great place to be and theres shedloads of quality work!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    There is lots of good work available for those who are willing to put the work in and build up their skills in the right area. As a small country there is a limit to the number of areas where we can have a lot of jobs. I work in one of the 'heavy' technical skill areas referred to by Civillian_Target and the number of jobs in the area in Ireland are very limited.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭mick.fr


    Stephen wrote:
    Eh, no it doesn't. 6 figures = 100,000 or more. 6 zeroes, on the other hand...

    Yeah my bad
    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭mick.fr


    I work in one of the 'heavy' technical skill areas referred to by Civillian_Target and the number of jobs in the area in Ireland are very limited.

    What kind if I may ask ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    Mick,

    It's boards so chances are he is the high end computing type :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    rediguana wrote:
    It's a skill in itself to be able to locate the jobs worth finding.
    I have to disagree with you on that one, if you are looking for a job it's a case of going out and looking for a job- not browsing throuhg irishjobs.ie

    A few year ago I got the sack from a job at 4pm on a Thursday afternoon, by 3pm the following day I had myself in a better job. The trick I lashed out as many CV's as I could and hammered a load of recruitment agencies. One of the agencies lined an interview up for me on the Friday afternoon, sensibely I'd decieded to wear a suit while going to the various agencies so I could go to the interview that same day. I've never had much trouble getting a job, it's just a case of getting out there a looking hard for one, taking care of your CV and makign an effort with interviews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭Salmon


    There are decent jobs out there OP! Just keep looking and best of luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭rediguana


    gillo wrote:
    I have to disagree with you on that one, if you are looking for a job it's a case of going out and looking for a job- not browsing throuhg irishjobs.ie

    A few year ago I got the sack from a job at 4pm on a Thursday afternoon, by 3pm the following day I had myself in a better job. The trick I lashed out as many CV's as I could and hammered a load of recruitment agencies. One of the agencies lined an interview up for me on the Friday afternoon, sensibely I'd decieded to wear a suit while going to the various agencies so I could go to the interview that same day. I've never had much trouble getting a job, it's just a case of getting out there a looking hard for one, taking care of your CV and makign an effort with interviews.


    I admire your proactive attitude, Gillo.

    We're not REALLY disagreeing, though. I know that, in many respects, jobhunting is a numbers game; if you circulate enough CVs, you'll get some interviews, do enough of them and you'll likely get a job offer.

    I know from bitter experience, however, that this approach is unlikely to lead to medium or long term job satisfaction. Firstly, you're casting your net so wide that you're wandering into "Jack of all trades" territory, when most employers are seeking people very skilled and knowledgeable in their chosen area.

    If you successfully hide your lack of focus at interview stage, and secure a position, is it going to be one you enjoy doing even three months later when you've put so little thought into where you've ended up? Most people would like to be in a certain area, professionally. Don't aim for it with a shotgun when a... um... laser gun is what's required.

    But the approaches we're both describing probably apply to different levels of the jobs ladder.


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