Plans to reduce M50 chaos include barrier-free tolling

Devon

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/?jp=MHAUAUCWCWQL

Anyone got any idea how they plan to deal with cars that aren't registered in the country?

testicle

I'm 100% certain that the thought hasn't occourred to anyone in the DoT.

Devon

testicle wrote:

I'm 100% certain that the thought hasn't occourred to anyone in the DoT.

overdriver

There will be one single point on the West Link area of the motorway, where cameras and antennae will detect car registrations.

Does this mean they're not going to toll the entire road? I have a major issue with that anyway, as the taxpayer built the road,and NTR the bridge. So it would be unfair to charge people for using the road when they don't use the bridge.

Given the debacle with the e-voting machines, expect lots of chaos OFF the road. Grannies with no cars recieving bills, lads NEVER washing their number plates etc etc

Pherekydes

overdriver wrote:

...lads NEVER washing their number plates etc etc

Great idea...


...but, I was pulled for a dirty number plate a few years back by a Bean Garda on a bike. (No, it wasn't a date! )

I.S.T.

Devon wrote:

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/?jp=MHAUAUCWCWQL

Anyone got any idea how they plan to deal with cars that aren't registered in the country?

They plan to link up with the UK and other European countries and exchange driver information so someone who commits a driving offence here will get points in their home country, and vice versa. I reckon they'll do the same with tolls, parking fines, etc.

When they get this system in place is anyone's guess though!!

Seth Brundle

Regarding single point tolling or tolling the entire M50 - the government will not make it out that they are intending on tolling the entire road until after the election!

I.S.T.

kbannon wrote:

Regarding single point tolling or tolling the entire M50 - the government will not make it out that they are intending on tolling the entire road until after the election!

I think tolling the entire M50 is the long term plan, they put a tender out for it recently. But I reckon they desperatly want to get the barriers remove, or at least have an announcement of a definite plan to remove them before the election.

antodeco

Hmm, so you buy a car second hand and you dont send in the C.O.O for a month, the original owner gets charged?! lol!! Sure, just removed ur front reg plate for the journey!

Seth Brundle

Its the sellers responsibility to send of the cert of ownership (not that it really makes a difference)!

antodeco

kbannon wrote:

Its the sellers responsibility to send of the cert of ownership (not that it really makes a difference)!

Oh yeah!! My apologies! Dunno what I was thinking!! Doh!:D

XJR

IrishSpeedTraps wrote:

They plan to link up with the UK and other European countries

Given that the points system here isn't integrated between DOE and the Garda pulse system I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

antodeco

True! If it does happen, the polish economy will probably double over night!

Wishbone Ash

Slow coach wrote:

by a Bean Garda on a bike

Who was she working for - Heinz??

sprinkles

They are already linked up with other European countries with regards to parking fines speeding tickets etc so I doubt this would be any different. The only thing they can't transfer yet are the points.

As for the idea, I think it's a pre election gimic. It'll cost 5 times the amount initially quoted, take 3 years longer to introduce and will be abandoned after 2months due to the inability to follow up the "bills" due to a legal loophole some communist car nut will find.

I don't know why he'll be communist, I can just sense it...

Wishbone Ash

sprinkles wrote:

some communist car nut will find

Any Communists, that I know, always insist on using public transport.

antodeco

Wishbone Ash wrote:

Who was she working for - Heinz??

Heinz???? Mr. Posh here!!

Gatster

They are already linked up with other European countries with regards to parking fines speeding tickets

Do you have evidence of this - I've had parking tickets in other European countries and never got anything back?

Hobbes

Devon wrote:

Anyone got any idea how they plan to deal with cars that aren't registered in the country?

They don't have to pay any toll as there are no international agreements enforcing them to pay it. Was on the news this morning as the Government is changing the laws to stop Irish people being able to avoid paying the toll.

overdriver

How were we able to avoid it before the law was changed? I have paid it only once since May. I just go Lucan- Clonee. It's not that much slower, depending on traffic.

Hobbes

I am not sure, but the radio said there was a loophole that meant you could avoid paying any toll road fee. They didn't explain how.

Wishbone Ash

Hobbes wrote:

I am not sure, but the radio said there was a loophole that meant you could avoid paying any toll road fee. They didn't explain how.

If you arrive at a toll booth without money, they take your details and forward a bill. Apparently if you refuse to pay that bill there is no legislation available to them to take any action to force payment. Perhaps that is the present loophole? (I can't confirm this but heard it said a few times).