When to be scared

Trinity

I posted on here when i first joined boards about waking up feeling like i was pinned down to the bed. Cant find it now.

Anyway since then i have seen a dark shape at the end of my bed, sensed someone behind me a few times. I also posted a thread in after hours about dogfood disappearing. Was called a dirty person with rats so i had it locked and forgot about it

A few weeks ago my bf stayed over and said he woke up and saw a dark figure standing at the end of the bed on my side. He said the dog was staring at the same spot moving his head side to side in that cute way dogs do. I never told him about my experiences in the past.

Last night i was watching a dvd in bed and the dog started to growl and bark at the end of my bed. He was wagging his tail at the same time and backing away. I knew there was something there even though i couldnt see it. In my head i was a bit scared but i wasnt shaking or heart wasnt pounding.

I live in an old house beside whitehall church. I had a mindblowing experience a couple of years back which left me doubting my sanity but this time i had witnesses. WOuld rather not go into it, i doubt many would believe me

Anyway should i be scared? Been here a year and nothing bad has happened. I doubt he means me any harm. But i just worry about my son who is 6.

When do you guys get scared or do you just accept it as part and parcel of your everyday life?

Aisling&M

First thing first, if this is a spirit in your home, it is only a spirit. You have the greater power over it. VERY few spirits I've ever encountered really intend harm to people. Maybe I'm lucky but usually, the only way they can communicate seems frightening to us.

Can you get a medium in to see if there is someone there and proceed to move it on?

This is your home and you should never be frightened in your own home.

If this is a negative entity/spirit, the only power it has over you is the lack of knowing and thus fear it creates. You have a body and a spirit and you have the power in this situation.

Don't worry about people not believing you. Get someone reliable into your home and get it sorted out.
Has your son experienced any of this?

r3nu4l

I remember the dog food thread I think some people recommended spreading flour on the floor and looking for tracks in it. Did you ever do that?

Anyway, I've no direct experience of this but an old friend of mine, who is a teacher, used to have a night-visitor all the time. When we were renting with him he told us that at least once a week he would wake up and this guy would be standing at the end of the bed, just looking at him.

At first it used to scare him but after a while he got used to it and sometimes the guy was dresed in a formal dinner jacket, other times a day suit. Anyway it got to the stage where my friend would just wake up at night, see the guy there, turn around a tell him to go away. All went well for months until one night we heard him scream very loudly and when we asked him what happened he said that for the first time ever the guy had come from the end of the bed towards him so he lashed out at him.

It stopped after that. Now I don't know whether this was just night-terrors or 'an experience' but I do know that it never bothered him until that night and after that the problem went away. We lived in a modern house in a regular estate but my friend did say that his 'visitor' had followed him to his parents house in Roscommon, turning up there but again, just standing at the end of the bed.

Shold you be scared, not really, nothing bad has happened, the dog is growling but wagging his tail so maybe there is no unfriendly intent. Scary no, bloody annoying yes.

Trinity

Thanks for the reply.

Yes he woke up terrified one night said he saw something on my side of the bed.

I am due to move out in May, But this stuff tends to follow me, i have had several experiences in different places

After my experience a couple of years ago i have shut myself off from this completely as in i wont allow myself to be too open to it or encourage it.

Trinity

r3nu4l wrote:

I remember the dog food thread I think some people recommended spreading flour on the floor and looking for tracks in it. Did you ever do that?QUOTE]

No i just cleaned the house lol No i left it and put it down to my imagination as mojomaker suggested


I forgot to mention the chill in the air. The lightbulbs are always blowing, actually exploding and the bulbs shatter and fly out of the ceiling. Guess that could be explained by the age of the house, bad electrics?

6th

As I say (alot) it can be as much about people as it is about places. The fact is that these types of visits happen all the time but it just so happens you are someone who notices it.

The only bad affect this can have on you is that its unnerving, affect your sleep and basically have you on edge.

Anyway I sent you a pm.

Aisling&M

I'm presuming from what you have written that these things follow you because you are aware of them.
I asked about your son as if he is experiencing these things they might be attracted to him.

This is NOT to frighten you. think about it this way. If you are in a restaurant and are thirsty, do you approach the waiter with a jug of water for a drink or someone on the far side of the room that would have to go get the waiter for you to pour you a drink?

If you or your son are able to see/sense them they will try and communicate or show themselves to you before they waste lots of energy trying to communicate with someone completely unable to sense them.

Trinity

That makes sense.

As i said in my head i felt a little scared but only in my mind, i wasnt really scared.

I thought about asking him what he wanted but bottled out. I did get the feeling he meant no harm but i think the dog scared him away :rolleyes:

6th

Being scared is one thing when you purposely put yourself in situations where, lets say, you go to a creepy castle with a reputation but your home is something else.

Setting boundries and limits is something anyone with experience will stress. At the end of the day you dont live alone and we all have a responsibilities for those around us.

kshiel

I have been in this situation myself and can understand the being scared part anyway. But I do think that this is a natural reaction to have at first, and I know with myself the fear goes away as I got used to it or accepted more so that I was actually seeing something. I will say nothing that has ever came to me in this sense has ever caused me any harm, and anytime I asked them to leave they would. Setting up boundaries is always a good idea. Seeking advice/help from someone trustworthy is also a good idea. As has been said this is your home and you have the right to feel safe in it.

Aisling&M

Absolutely, protection is paramount.
THere are SO many ways to do this, some use prayers to deities or angels or visualisations. It's important to find the one that suits you. It can also be tailored depending on how you want to proceed. I use protection as a filtering service, rather than a definite boundary. But if you would want to be free from spirits in your home, make sure you get that! If you have any questions, I might be able to help and you can pm me with them anytime.:)

Steyr

Trinity1 wrote:

I live in an old house beside whitehall church. I had a mindblowing experience a couple of years back which left me doubting my sanity but this time i had witnesses. WOuld rather not go into it, i doubt many would believe me

Id love to hear more about this if you were willing to share. I dont think you need to be scared.

Trinity

Aisling&M wrote:

Absolutely, protection is paramount.
THere are SO many ways to do this, some use prayers to deities or angels or visualisations. It's important to find the one that suits you. It can also be tailored depending on how you want to proceed. I use protection as a filtering service, rather than a definite boundary. But if you would want to be free from spirits in your home, make sure you get that! If you have any questions, I might be able to help and you can pm me with them anytime.:)

Thanks.

I know nothing about the paranormal only the things i have experienced personally.

I used to feel i had someone watching over me, i named him michael even though i dunno who he is. But i dont feel him anymore.

Aisling&M

well, if you trust him to watch over you then ask him to protect you now. just have a chat to your guardian angel/spirit guide and tell them exactly what you do and do not want in your home.

nicolo

hey ok this might sound a bit weird but is it the house right next to the back of the church? the one with the white front? i used to (my parents houes) live across the road and that houise ued to have a man named vincent in it who went mad, used to come out onto the street in the middle of the night with a scarf tied round his head and start banging a sweeping brush off the lamp post. (not sure his name was vincent actually think my folks just called him that cos he looked like vincent van gogh) anyways the house was in tatters when he lived ther, next thing we knew he was gone and the house was up for sale, got bought out and turned into student accomodation. our house was maaaaaad huanted to and weve heard off the neighbours along the tsreet that theyve had **** happen to them to.

nicolo

oh ps what was the mad thing that happened? you can dangle the possiblity of a good story over us an back out trust me you wont get ridiquled here

scojones

Ok, I posted on here ages ago about an experience I had that went on for months on end when I was living in at the back of a farm house in Co. Kerry but I can't find the post now so I'll post it again in the hope it will help you.

Basically we had a 'presence' in our house. There were four of us living there. it started off with small things but as time went on it progressed and just got damn unbearable. I would put the toilet seat down, flush toilet, leave the bathroom and my girlfriend at the time would walk into bathroom a couple of minutes later and the seat would be up. She gave me awful stink for this, and I couldn't understand as I knew I had left the seat down. I got her to leave it up, come out for 5 mins, go back in and it was down. It was then that she started to realise something was up.

The house was old and creaky, but we could often hear someone walking upstairs, and vice versa if we were upstairs we could hear someone downstairs even when there was nobody there.

We were all downstairs, all four of us and my mate said he was going to bed. We heard him walk upstairs, go to the bathroom, come out of the bathroom and climb into bed. About two minutes later the toilet flushed, we could hear someone coming out of the bathroom and get into his bed. I thought he must have someone up there and asked him about it the morning after. His reply was "No, sure why would there be someone up there with me. You know I've a girlfriend and she's back home. I'll tell you what though, I was feckin freezing all night".

Our shower would only spout water out of it if the power chord was pulled. I was in the bathroom and noticed someone had left the power on. I turned it off, walked into my room to get my shoes on, then walked past the bathroom and as I did water started coming out of the shower... yet the chord wasn't pulled. We had an electrician replace the shower but he said he found no fault with it.

When we would go home at weekends we would have all the lights off in the house, when we'd come back on Sunday the house would be totally light up.. TV on.. Washing machine on with nothing in it.. (we'd have left them both plugged out). We started freaking out and suspected the landlord let people stay there at weekends so I stayed there one weekend with my mate.

We were watching TV downstairs the shower came on upstairs. Both of us went up to see wtf was going on and I turned it off. When I did this we heard ALOT of banging downstairs so we ran down the stairs to see what was up and all of the presses in the kitchen were open when we got down there. Also, the TV had been switched off. The downstairs toilet flushed and I swear to God I could see the handle move and nobody was there as I had a clear shot of the toilet from where I was when this happened.

We decided to turn off the lights to see if it stopped or got worse. You know where the wall meets the ceiling? That light up a neon green colour in the living room, we went into every room in the house and they were all like it. Some weird little light right where the wall met the ceiling. We were freaked and we left and stayed in a mates house for the rest of the night. On another night in my room a circular light lit up a part of a wall in my room. I went over to it and put my hand over it and my hand had no shadow which was really weird. Also, the other side of this wall was where the shower was.

I got a priest I know from Shannon to come to the house in Tralee. He experienced it first hand and agreed that we should definitely bless the place. Whatever was there was starting to get restless as when we arrived with him all the cutlery was on the floor. The priest blessed the house and it stopped, completely. We spoke to the landlord about all of this and she said she never experienced anything in her house which was just around the corner from ours, but she said her 12 year old son did hang himself on the farm years ago and maybe that had something to do with it.

I think I went into a bit more detail in this post than my last one, and no doubt I've left things out as well.

In my opinion you should get your room and house blessed. I wouldn't go back into my house until it was blessed because I was so freaked by it.

6th

Jones .... I know this Forum like the back of my hairy hand:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=51008263&postcount=46

scojones

6th, you sir are a legend!

Trinity

Thanks all.

Nicolo thats not my house. I am a couple of rows back from the church.

Creepy view from my kitchen at dusk

6th

scojones wrote:

6th, you sir are a legend!

No its your posts that are memorable

nicolo

Trinity1 wrote:

Thanks all.

Nicolo thats not my house. I am a couple of rows back from the church.

Creepy view from my kitchen at dusk

ah right cos i was over in my folks today and i found out that the guy who was there had gone completely mad and started smashing through the walls in the house. mad.

faceman

hey trinity, spooky stuff!! Just a quick Q, what did ur bf do when he saw someone at the end of your bed? Did he ignore it and go back asleep or did he try get up or wake u?

Trinity

faceman wrote:

hey trinity, spooky stuff!! Just a quick Q, what did ur bf do when he saw someone at the end of your bed? Did he ignore it and go back asleep or did he try get up or wake u?

He ignored it and went back to sleep. He didnt tell me about it for a while.

faceman

Trinity1 wrote:

He ignored it and went back to sleep. He didnt tell me about it for a while.

Does it not seem strange that he awoke to find an intruder in your bedroom (be it that he interpreted as supernatural or natural), yet did nothing about it and just fell back asleep? And to add to that, didnt tell you about it at the time?

Trinity

faceman wrote:

Does it not seem strange that he awoke to find an intruder in your bedroom (be it that he interpreted as supernatural or natural), yet did nothing about it and just fell back asleep? And to add to that, didnt tell you about it at the time?

I have no explanation for that. He knew it wasnt a real person and i guess hes just not scared of that stuff. He probably didnt want to scare me either. I Cant ask him now either.

faceman

Trinity1 wrote:

I have no explanation for that. He knew it wasnt a real person and i guess hes just not scared of that stuff. He probably didnt want to scare me either. I Cant ask him now either.

why cant you ask him now? seems very irresponsible of him!

anyway my mother told me last nite a simliar story to yours which gave me the shivers.

her best friend was in thailand recently with her husband and woke up during the night and saw a faceless figure at the end of her bed. SHe didnt feel scared tho. Under both the figures arms, were 2 demon like figures and it was if he was keepin them at bay. She felt strangely relaxed and sat up in the bed. After half a minute the figure disappeared

heres the spooky part. When she came back to dublin, she went to a medium and told the medium nothing about the incident. THe medium said that she had a "spirit guide" and described the spirit guide to her. Guess who it was? Yep the headless man in thailand. The medium also described 2 demons, representing evil, who her guide was trying to suppress.

spooky.

Trinity

faceman wrote:

why cant you ask him now? seems very irresponsible of him!QUOTE]


We 'parted company' last week.

Yes thats spooky stuff. Have you ever had any experiences yourself?

GLaDOS

Possible he thought it was a dream or something

faceman

Trinity1 wrote:

We 'parted company' last week.

oops sorry, hope i didnt offend.

Trinity1 wrote:

Yes thats spooky stuff. Have you ever had any experiences yourself?

Yes but not bed time ones. I have had a number of unexplained encounters the most scary being in wexford.

I do experience incredibly powerful and vivid dreams. Alot of my dreams are about nasty demons n stuff, altho my gf reckons its cos i watch too many horror films! :rolleyes:

i did have a very strange dream one night and to this day i believe it was more than just a dream.
I was stayin in my grandmother's house and in the dream i was in bed. I felt and cud hear an evil presence walkin up the stairs so i went out (in the dream) to the stairs (she has a stairs that goes up 10 steps and turns a corner for 3 steps if that makes sense!). I was too scared to look around the corner to see what was there but i put my hands out to push it away. After a struggle it worked and in my dream i climbed back into bed. I woke up in the exact position i was lyin in the dream. Creepy.

kincsem

These are hypnagogic hallucinations, usually upon falling asleep.

.... feeling your skin is touched, a feeling of floating, feeling paralysed, pervasive fear, intruders in bedroom, someone coming through the window, footsteps getting closer, a frightening stranger walking in and out of the bedroom.

The Promise Of Sleep by William C Dement, Pan Books

kincsem

And has anyone ever been harmed by these strangers in the room? No. Because they are in your hallucination, not in your room.

imprezza

T1, some of what you say sounds like a poltergeist rather than a spirit. Pm me if I can help with some advice.

Trinity

kincsem wrote:

And has anyone ever been harmed by these strangers in the room? No. Because they are in your hallucination, not in your room.

Good point however there have been some incidents in the day and while we were awake.

faceman

imprezza wrote:

T1, some of what you say sounds like a poltergeist rather than a spirit. Pm me if I can help with some advice.

poltergeists rarely present themselves in a physical form and in alot of instances display no intelligence which would suggest an energy as opposed to a spirit

Trinity

faceman wrote:

poltergeists rarely present themselves in a physical form and in alot of instances display no intelligence which would suggest an energy as opposed to a spirit

I wish i knew the difference

Not much happening now. TV changing stations on its own the other evening and lights keep blowing but this could be easily explained by old wiring?

Box with hoover just fell 2 feet but box could have been heavy on one side?

CLothes going missing even though its just me and the 6 yr old in the house but i think that happens in everyones house.

Guess what i am saying is all the 'incidents' can probably be explained or you can believe what you want to believe.

faceman

Trinity1 wrote:

Guess what i am saying is all the 'incidents' can probably be explained or you can believe what you want to believe.

it sounds like its gettin the better of you and you are becoming slightly paranoid. Dont worry, it will pass.

imprezza

faceman wrote:

poltergeists rarely present themselves in a physical form and in alot of instances display no intelligence which would suggest an energy as opposed to a spirit

It's rare alright for a poltergeist to be seen in physical form but there are many cases where they've manifested. Their usually mishievous, moving things around the house or making things disappear, an energy form is right but we are too imo. They sometimes communicate with people wich means that some of them are intelligent. It all depends on where your coming from really.

Trinity

faceman wrote:

it sounds like its gettin the better of you and you are becoming slightly paranoid. Dont worry, it will pass.

Thanks. Have to admit have been sleeping with the light on the last 2 weeks.

Guess i am just starting to doubt my sanity again. In one way i want proof yet in another way, theres no way i am opening myself up to be bombarded so the doubt remains.

Trinity

faceman wrote:

oops sorry, hope i didnt offend.



Yes but not bed time ones. I have had a number of unexplained encounters the most scary being in wexford.

I do experience incredibly powerful and vivid dreams. Alot of my dreams are about nasty demons n stuff, altho my gf reckons its cos i watch too many horror films! :rolleyes:

i did have a very strange dream one night and to this day i believe it was more than just a dream.
I was stayin in my grandmother's house and in the dream i was in bed. I felt and cud hear an evil presence walkin up the stairs so i went out (in the dream) to the stairs (she has a stairs that goes up 10 steps and turns a corner for 3 steps if that makes sense!). I was too scared to look around the corner to see what was there but i put my hands out to push it away. After a struggle it worked and in my dream i climbed back into bed. I woke up in the exact position i was lyin in the dream. Creepy.

Scary. Been having weird dreams myself, believe it comes with the pregnancy

Last night i dreamt i was a passenger in my dad's car (very rare!) and he was in a foul humour (not so rare ).

In a temper he changed lanes really quickly and a car behind us blew its horn forever (ya know the way they leave their hands on it!).

So my dad jammed on the breaks and the car behind us jammed so hard that it went up into the air, turned over and landed in a normal position. It was a black Toyota MR2. It was so clear! My dad sped away

I know its not paranormal but just wanted to share it anyways it felt so real and i woke up so upset :rolleyes:

GuanYin

kincsem wrote:

And has anyone ever been harmed by these strangers in the room? No. Because they are in your hallucination, not in your room.

I STRONGLY suggest you read the charter before posting here again.

Trinity

I just made a little clip on my phone of the living room door opening evver so slightly and closing again but i dont know how to attach it or if its even allowed!!

Could have been the wind though i guess

6th

Trinity, posting the clip is fine but you need to have it on youtube to post a video. If you want to mail it to me I can do it for you.

On the whole Poltergeist issue I will start a thread on that in the next coupy of day - odonnell, monkeyfudge, stoner and myself have a very interesting discussion about them and similar the other night ... in the pub

Trinity

Thanks.

I dont know your email address.

kincsem

psi wrote:

I STRONGLY suggest you read the charter before posting here again.

Sorry about that. I thought I was being helpful by reassuring previous posters that they were not in danger, that it was not a paranormal event, and that there was a scientific explanation / research to explain the occurances.

I assume I must have broken this rule in the sticky, althought you did not say.

1 ALL belief in the paranormal will be respected.

odonnell

another quick point: where "scientific explanation / research" can explain an occurence - it is an easy mistake to believe that this research would lend itself to ALL occurences. There are many, MANY forces at work and we only have the scientific tools to research those physical anomalies. To believe that there can be nothing more than the physical or scientifically measurable is very naive, and can be construed as being slightly ignorant in the eyes of the paranormal community - let alone the spiritual community, as with your science and research (of which I am very fond) you whipe out 50,000 years of human instinct and belief.

Thats an AWFULLY bold statement to be making.

Let me say in response to the thread though - youre rarely to never in danger. Assuringly, a lot of these events can indeed be down to the mind, frequencies and sleep states etc.

But on the times when it is actually paranormal (spiritual), i believe you have little to fear.

6th

Trinity1 wrote:

Thanks.

I dont know your email address.

mark@ 6thsensitive.com (without the space - I dont want spammers picking it up).

Trinity

Thanks you can delete that now.

Had to send from an old hotmail account my o2 email aint working as usual.

6th

Ok here you go, sorry it took me so long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q35Z4w3B8

YouTube has to pass it yet but it can be viewed here in the meantime: http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/charleville/?action=view&current=DOOR.flv

Trinity

Thanks for doing that 6th.

It aint that impressive looking at it there, it was better in real life!!

Reason i opened the door was to make sure hall door wasnt open or any wind coming in. There was also a lot of light/shadows so i made sure it wasnt people moving about outside (this often happens!)

Dunno why i filmed the stairs, just a habit/feeling.

6th

Interesting video all right. Obviously people can say it was a draft etc but from my viewing of it and the 'feel' of it I'd think something was up.

I'd 99% say (presuming a paranormal phenomenon) that its Poltergeist activity.

Now saying that I dont belive there is such a thing as a Poltergeist but rather that it is a discription of a type of activity and a cause of that activity.

Poltergeist activity is caused by a build up of energy (possible PK/PT) and acts randomly due to the fact its not being carried out by a conscious being or a personality. People always assume its only Poltergeist activity if a child, usually a girl and usually between the age of 9 and 15. The reasoning for this is that its childs unstable energy and hormones which lead to the phenomenon. Personally I dont think thats the end of it. I've come across it with a guy in his 20s, a woman in her 40s and have read about it all across the board of ages, genders and situations.

Stress of moving job or home can cause it, pregnancy, menopause and even non-negative situations like a sexual attraction/tension can cause Poltergeist activity.

It can be a case of just balancing yourself and your life a bit to calm these phenomenon down or putting a stop to them altogether.

Anyway I'll stop before I start rambling.