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Check min re-raise

  • 28-02-2007 9:28am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭


    3 hands

    all in relatively quick succesion

    MR Big 2 i have little hand history with but has been playing at 36/0 this session

    Robbo i have a bit more he is a 33/11 player and i have just seen him min raise pre with KJ call a button re-raise with KJ flop K88 and he called of two pot bets and a river push for his entire stack against house of Ks

    Hand 1


    The Big Heat 10475071-205641 Holdem No Limit $0.50/$1
    [Feb 28 00:08:06] : Hand Start.
    [Feb 28 00:08:06] : Seat 1 : bandanaboy has $144
    [Feb 28 00:08:06] : Seat 2 : Signor_H has $171.75
    [Feb 28 00:08:06] : Seat 3 : llamatrix has $121.75
    [Feb 28 00:08:06] : Seat 4 : mr 2 big has $54.92
    [Feb 28 00:08:06] : Seat 5 : Bong_charly has $72.75
    [Feb 28 00:08:06] : Seat 6 : robbo21 has $134.86
    [Feb 28 00:08:06] : bandanaboy is the dealer.
    [Feb 28 00:08:06] : Signor_H posted small blind.
    [Feb 28 00:08:07] : llamatrix posted big blind.
    [Feb 28 00:08:07] : Game [205641] started with 6 players.
    [Feb 28 00:08:07] : Dealing Hole Cards.
    [Feb 28 00:08:07] : Seat 1 : bandanaboy has 5d Ad
    [Feb 28 00:08:11] : mr 2 big called $1
    [Feb 28 00:08:11] : Bong_charly folded.
    [Feb 28 00:08:23] : robbo21 called $1 and raised $2
    [Feb 28 00:08:25] : bandanaboy called $3
    [Feb 28 00:08:25] : Signor_H folded.
    [Feb 28 00:08:28] : llamatrix folded.
    [Feb 28 00:08:36] : mr 2 big called $2
    [Feb 28 00:08:37] : Dealing flop.
    [Feb 28 00:08:37] : Board cards [2d 9h 4d]
    [Feb 28 00:08:40] : mr 2 big checked.
    [Feb 28 00:08:44] : robbo21 checked.
    [Feb 28 00:08:47] : bandanaboy bet $8
    [Feb 28 00:08:49] : mr 2 big called $8 and raised $8
    [Feb 28 00:08:53] : robbo21 folded.


    Hand 2
    [Feb 28 00:28:34] : Hand Start.
    [Feb 28 00:28:34] : Seat 1 : bandanaboy has $99
    [Feb 28 00:28:34] : Seat 2 : Signor_H has $170.25
    [Feb 28 00:28:34] : Seat 3 : llamatrix has $117.50
    [Feb 28 00:28:34] : Seat 4 : mr 2 big has $149.84
    [Feb 28 00:28:34] : Seat 5 : Bong_charly has $76.25
    [Feb 28 00:28:34] : Seat 6 : robbo21 has $121.61
    [Feb 28 00:28:35] : bandanaboy is the dealer.
    [Feb 28 00:28:35] : Signor_H posted small blind.
    [Feb 28 00:28:35] : llamatrix posted big blind.
    [Feb 28 00:28:35] : Game [205671] started with 6 players.
    [Feb 28 00:28:35] : Dealing Hole Cards.
    [Feb 28 00:28:35] : Seat 1 : bandanaboy has As Jc
    [Feb 28 00:28:38] : mr 2 big called $1
    [Feb 28 00:28:40] : Bong_charly folded.
    [Feb 28 00:28:54] : robbo21 has 10 seconds to respond.
    [Feb 28 00:28:55] : robbo21 called $1 and raised $2
    [Feb 28 00:28:59] : bandanaboy called $3
    [Feb 28 00:29:01] : Signor_H folded.
    [Feb 28 00:29:03] : llamatrix folded.
    [Feb 28 00:29:05] : mr 2 big called $2
    [Feb 28 00:29:05] : Dealing flop.
    [Feb 28 00:29:05] : Board cards [Kh Qc Ad]
    [Feb 28 00:29:09] : mr 2 big checked.
    [Feb 28 00:29:13] : robbo21 checked.
    [Feb 28 00:29:17] : bandanaboy bet $8
    [Feb 28 00:29:19] : mr 2 big folded.
    [Feb 28 00:29:22] : robbo21 called $8 and raised $8


    Hand 3

    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Hand Start.
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Seat 1 : bandanaboy has $80
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Seat 2 : Signor_H has $169.75
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Seat 3 : llamatrix has $116.50
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Seat 4 : mr 2 big has $146.84
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Seat 5 : Bong_charly has $76.25
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Seat 6 : robbo21 has $143.11
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Signor_H is the dealer.
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : llamatrix posted small blind.
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : mr 2 big posted big blind.
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Game [205672] started with 6 players.
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Dealing Hole Cards.
    [Feb 28 00:29:42] : Seat 1 : bandanaboy has Ah Th
    [Feb 28 00:29:44] : Bong_charly folded.
    [Feb 28 00:29:48] : robbo21 called $1 and raised $2
    [Feb 28 00:29:54] : bandanaboy called $3
    [Feb 28 00:29:54] : Signor_H folded.
    [Feb 28 00:29:56] : llamatrix folded.
    [Feb 28 00:29:57] : mr 2 big folded.
    [Feb 28 00:29:57] : Dealing flop.
    [Feb 28 00:29:57] : Board cards [Tc 8h 2h]
    [Feb 28 00:30:11] : robbo21 checked.
    [Feb 28 00:30:14] : bandanaboy bet $8
    [Feb 28 00:30:17] : robbo21 called $8 and raised $8


    Opinions and suggestions


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    hand 1: with stack sizes, I'd just shove.

    hand 2: tempted to fold to the minraise. I'd definitely check the flop.

    hand 3: raise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    Hand 1:
    shove.

    Hand 2:
    reraise pre-flop.
    check flop in either case and call his gay bets.

    Hand 3:
    reraise again ,make it 35-40 or so.

    also how you play these hands depends on what happend in the first hand and second hand.
    for example if you are folding to his minraises oftne then we will min raise with nothing more often but if you are rasing him often and he folds then he may try the min raise with a stronger hand expecting you to reraise him so he can trap you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    Well results
    Hand 1 I shoved he called with worse fd
    This was optimum here but is a call better here against calling stations long term

    Hand 2 I strongly considered checking the flop and against many villains i will check call here alot
    but the fact he was so willing to check call bets in the past i thought I was value betting here
    I laid the hand down though as a re-raise from this guy scared me
    Really not sure this was good decision

    Hand 3 I pushed and he had a set of 8s which suggests to me now Hand 2 he has air


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    whats the point in raising in hand 3?

    And why do you believe that a guy who c/minraised a set, had air on a previous hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    #1 I like a shove given the stack sizes because if the turn bricks we cant really call a decent bet without any implied odds. vs a calling station and full stacks i can go either way here, our draw is so big that getting it in vs pretty much any hand is good but vs a bad player hitting and getting paid off is more +ev

    #2 I check this back pretty much always, and I also fold preflop, AJo is a bad hand to be calling preflop raises with
    as played, I call and see what he does on the turn

    #3 I think a shove is pretty bad, and I would call and see a turn card here too
    I also dislike preflop, calling raises with suited aces isnt great generally espec not 80bb deep


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