cheating????

PeakOutput

so heard a rumour today that there are people regularly cheating (well i assume team work is cheating) in the live cash games in town............

heard it was a few students anyone hear about this or is it probably bull****

Trippie

just cheating in general or do you have a specific type or example of what they are at coz there are loads of dfferent types of cheating

PeakOutput

doing the old who wants to be a millionaire trick coughing to signal to each other

i wasnt there i was just told two guys called them on it and there coughs were suddenly cured but apparently they are regulars

i presume they were doing it to know when to push other people off big pots and that sort of ****

Trippie

where and when was this

PeakOutput

pretty sure it was the fitz and i think in the last 2 months

phantom_lord

lol, I very much doubt that's true.

Richard W

That's mad. Could be total bull**** from someone who lost money to a couple of students though. In fact, I'm more inclined to believe the latter for some reason.

PeakOutput

its bound to happen eventually if it hasnt already with that much money and that many students around

cooker3

PeakOutput wrote:

its bound to happen eventually if it hasnt already with that much money and that many students around

yeah us students were always bound to collude, those non students are so much less likely to do it.

phantom_lord

tbh, no it's not.

most students would be too stooopid to put together any effective means of collusion.

doesn't help you get moved around a good bit btw.

story's not true.

its bound to happen eventually if it hasn't already with that much money and that many students around

there's not THAT MUCH money sloshing around, not enough for someone to put a team together anyway, lol. what's with the suspicion of students....?

cooker3

phantom_lord wrote:

not enough for someone to put a team together anyway, lol. what's with the suspicion of students....?

Now if they were going to MIT, it would be a whole differant story!

PeakOutput

phantom_lord wrote:

tbh, no it's not.

students would be too stooopid to put together any effective means of collusion.

doesn't help you get moved around a good bit btw.

story's not true.

cash game so no moving

as for students being too stoopid maybe most of them but students tend to have high ambitions and think they are smarter than they are

alot of scammers etc start in college just think about the mit blackjack team people in trinners for winners will hear that and be like "if they could do that in vegas we could so do it down the merrion or wereever"

edit cooke got there before me

and i say students at the mo coz they are young(i am a student btw) generally more reckless and gagging for a way to make money without the usual grind. i know i am looking for anyway possible to increase my cash flow i just want to do it legit but if i dint i dont think it would be dat hard to milk some nice cash by cheating

PeakOutput

phantom_lord wrote:

there's not THAT MUCH money sloshing around, not enough for someone to put a team together anyway, lol. what's with the suspicion of students....?

theres enough to keep 2/3 students living nicely

and anyone could be doing it its jsut i was told it was students and i always thought myself that someone would try it

phantom_lord

PeakOutput wrote:

cash game so no moving

yes there is....I lived there for a while ... there's multiple feeder tables which you work through to get to the main table.

as for students being too stoopid maybe most of them but students tend to have high ambitions and think they are smarter than they are

alot of scammers etc start in college just think about the mit blackjack team people in trinners for winners will hear that and be like "if they could do that in vegas we could so do it down the merrion or wereever"

collusion is just not going to be effective in a live game, if they want to collude they should just get im and go online for a month or two til they get banned.

If people collude live it's usually when they sandwich a player between their raises and reraises, which means they have to be sitting the right position, it's also gonna be picked up pretty quickly, and isn't gonna add much to their bottom line compared to what they'd make playing normally.

the mit blackjack was a total different animal to two dirty hoodie wearing trinner tossers coughing to each other in an empty building.

PeakOutput

phantom_lord wrote:

yes there is....I lived there for a while ... there's multiple feeder tables which you work through to get to the main table.

i never played in the fitz only the merrion and wasnt moved in the merrion so assumed it was the same my bad

ye the more i think about it the more it sounds unlikely but i do think its inevitable but i obviously give students more credit than most people

phantom_lord

A guy was telling me a story of when he was playing in....Mississippi i think, 2 guys were colluding by squeezing him between their raises and reraises, he copped on fairly quick, but before he left he managed to hit the nuts against them with rockets i think, he just sat and called off their stacks while they tried to bet him off the pot. sweet spot.

LuckyLloyd

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DeVore

I've no doubt that some "soft play" goes on. I can't comment on whether they were were students or not though people tend to have stronger friendships in college as they spend all day and all night with them in general and they are all in the same boat of trying to make ends meet.

Anyway, I think that more then colluding against you, most of what happens would be "not stacking their mate". I've heard one or two comments like "if it was anyone else Id push" as they call ... etc.
I dont think its harmless but there are bigger and better opportunities to cheat then the 50-PLHE game in the fitz...


DeV.

Rb

Must have been Mr.Flibble...

Rnger

i frequently cheat, especially in home games when its easy to deal yourself high pairs. oh look i hit quads again.......

MacStacked

Most of the cash games in town are too soft and too loose for this to be in anyway more profitable than playing a tight aggressive game.

Mr. Flibble

rb_ie wrote:

Must have been Mr.Flibble...

Ugh. I take this is because of the fact I played on two accounts at the same time, at different tabes, with different people. I think this is so far removed from colluding, peeking etc that it shouldn't be mentioned in this thread.

Maybe the next time you are playing a hand on line and passer by says he thinks you should fold and you take this into account when you decide what to do you should email support and ask for your funds to be confiscated for cheating. Or maybe its not quite what people mean when they mention cheating.

Rb

Mr. Flibble wrote:

Ugh. I take this is because of the fact I played on two accounts at the same time, at different tabes, with different people. I think this is so far removed from colluding, peeking etc that it shouldn't be mentioned in this thread.

Maybe the next time you are playing a hand on line and passer by says he thinks you should fold and you take this into account when you decide what to do you should email support and ask for your funds to be confiscated for cheating. Or maybe its not quite what people mean when they mention cheating.

Ah Conor, I'm only joking, lighten up.

RoundTower

I'm sure it goes on on a small scale but not effectively.

ditpoker

i hear RoundTower cheated in the WSOP... apparantly the other guy wasnt meant to hit his set too!

Mr. Flibble

rb_ie wrote:

Ah Conor, I'm only joking, lighten up.

Ok ok. I just don't want people who don't know what you are alluding to getting the wrong idea.