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Hand not played well

  • 15-02-2007 4:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭


    Epic Movie 15279372-6250 Holdem No Limit $0.50/$1
    [Feb 15 01:08:15] : Hand Start.
    [Feb 15 01:08:15] : Seat 1 : bandanaboy has $131
    [Feb 15 01:08:15] : Seat 2 : stringmusic has $37
    [Feb 15 01:08:15] : Seat 3 : tyrfryr65 has $377.70
    [Feb 15 01:08:15] : Seat 4 : OST3R has $70.75
    [Feb 15 01:08:15] : Seat 6 : JIMBEAN has $163.41
    [Feb 15 01:08:15] : bandanaboy is the dealer.
    [Feb 15 01:08:16] : stringmusic posted small blind.
    [Feb 15 01:08:17] : tyrfryr65 posted big blind.
    [Feb 15 01:08:17] : Game [6250] started with 5 players.
    [Feb 15 01:08:17] : Dealing Hole Cards.
    [Feb 15 01:08:17] : Seat 1 : bandanaboy has 9d 9h
    [Feb 15 01:08:20] : OST3R called $1
    [Feb 15 01:08:23] : JIMBEAN called $1
    [Feb 15 01:08:28] : bandanaboy called $1 and raised $2
    [Feb 15 01:08:31] : stringmusic called $2.50
    [Feb 15 01:08:33] : tyrfryr65 called $2
    [Feb 15 01:08:35] : OST3R called $2
    [Feb 15 01:08:36] : JIMBEAN called $2
    [Feb 15 01:08:36] : Dealing flop.
    [Feb 15 01:08:36] : Board cards [9c 7d Kc]
    [Feb 15 01:08:39] : stringmusic checked.
    [Feb 15 01:08:43] : tyrfryr65 checked.
    [Feb 15 01:08:46] : OST3R checked.
    [Feb 15 01:08:48] : JIMBEAN checked.
    [Feb 15 01:08:58] : bandanaboy bet $9
    [Feb 15 01:09:01] : stringmusic folded.
    [Feb 15 01:09:04] : tyrfryr65 called $9
    [Feb 15 01:09:05] : OST3R folded.
    [Feb 15 01:09:06] : JIMBEAN folded.
    [Feb 15 01:09:08] : Dealing turn.
    [Feb 15 01:09:08] : Board cards [9c 7d Kc 8c]
    [Feb 15 01:09:11] : tyrfryr65 checked.
    [Feb 15 01:09:15] : bandanaboy checked.
    [Feb 15 01:09:16] : Dealing river.
    [Feb 15 01:09:16] : Board cards [9c 7d Kc 8c Qd]
    [Feb 15 01:09:20] : tyrfryr65 bet $4


    What next


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 238 ✭✭coadyj


    well ovioule you called the 4 and he had the staight or you wouldnt have posted this with such a stange statment at the top.

    In normal say i would say he has flush and was trying to instill a bet from you.

    what did you do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    has Gholimoli been giving English lessons?


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Raise more preflop. Making it 3xbb on the button with 2 limpers is far from ideal and implies that you are going to give up on the hand if you don't hit a great flop. As played I'd be tempted to raise the river, but the fact that he is playing with nearly 4 buyins says something for him I guess despite the pathetic river bet. I would mostly just call here though without any real information on him as it isn't a great board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Raise more preflop, with 3 limpers I would make it 6 or 7.
    On the river a call seems good, I can't see any hand that calls a raise that you beat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    cooker3 wrote:
    Raise more preflop, with 3 limpers I would make it 6 or 7.
    On the river a call seems good, I can't see any hand that calls a raise that you beat.

    Raise more preflop is granted I am not sure i have raised less than 3BBS before in my life not sure what i was at
    6 or 7 is a bit much anything over 5bbs here is bad imo


    As to no hand that calls a raise that i beat surely some 2 pair hands call a raise here ?

    First glance the bet stymied me it looks like the worst block bet in the world


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Raise more preflop is granted I am not sure i have raised less than 3BBS before in my life not sure what i was at
    6 or 7 is a bit much anything over 5bbs here is bad imo


    As to no hand that calls a raise that i beat surely some 2 pair hands call a raise here ?

    First glance the bet stymied me it looks like the worst block bet in the world

    well, my standard raise would be to 4 and then when you add on for limpers 6 would be standard for me, with 2 callers behind you have to make raise bigger and make them pay.

    Yeah he could have some sort of funky 2 pair, would he pay you off with a lone king?
    It's a marginal one as there are also flushes and straights out there. It depends on my read of the player but my default play would be to call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    if he had a straight or a flush he'd raise more. I might call here or I might raise, it depends. he might make a crying call with kq or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    more preflop

    i bet turn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭PiperT


    I'm definitely raising more pre-flop. Betting more on the flop. Definitely not checking the turn and as it played out I'm flat calling the river bet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    I'm raising that river


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Im raising the river to 20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    PiperT wrote:
    Definitely not checking the turn

    Checking the turn is pretty standard when every draw has just hit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    Any hoo
    results

    I raised to 20
    He called pretty quickly and tabled a small flush

    Not sure which of us played this the worst


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    Checking the turn is pretty standard when every draw has just hit

    Then why raise on the river? Granted, it's a pathetic size of bet from Villain but you've gained no information on the turn from his check so you really don't know what the flop gave him to call your bet - could have been TP+flush draw, 10-Js that turned into double gut-shot, nut flush draw, anything

    Personally, I'd have fired again on the turn to see what he does - if he raises, I'm probably done with it but at least I'll know and you might shut out any top pair + one club hands

    As played, though, no way am I raising now - surely you only get called by a better hand? And if you're trying to scare him away, then surely turn was the place to try it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭PiperT


    Checking the turn is pretty standard when every draw has just hit

    OK - Then fold the river. You raised the river when, as you put it, every draw hit on the turn.

    I personally don't see anything wrong with betting the turn. I would prefer to know where I stand then rather than firing on 5th Street when I have no chance of improving my holding. If 5th Street pairs the board you will be getting paid a lot more a lot of the time and your investment in the pot is pretty much the same the way this hand played out. If he's calling my turn bet then I'm done with the hand with no further improvement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    because there is lots of hands can check re-raise me on that turn and i can be making mistakes calling or folding
    Also a bet here and if i get called River pot is getting a bit big and i will have no idea where i stand

    Also i let him bluff the river or 2 pair might try a value bet

    The quandry is he threw out such a weird bet on the river for so little i am beggining to think i am ahead

    So i suppose the question is do i value raise here
    I obv thought so and was wrong i was wondering if my logic was very flawed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    I think raising the river is ok, it looks like a cheap blocking bet far more so than a value bet.


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