Is this insane or genius

Bandana boy

So playing live PLO

Seat 1 lunatic recently called 100 quid all in with 4589 1 suit
has not laid down a hand before seeing the flop and has open bet nearly every hand posssible

Seat 4 bit of a fool takes for ever to make every decision looks like he is calculating odds but clearly is not based on the decisions he has made

Seat 5 standard ABC PLO player probably calls a bit too much not tricky but deserves respect when he bets especially on river

Seat 8 Good player

Seat 9 Legend in his own mind and our hero

couple of hands previously
From Ep i call with QQT9 ds lunatic in seat 1 raised it up I make it 40 to play and I get the 5 above to call
I flop the nut straight on two tone board checked to me I check Checked to Seat 4 who bets 30 into like 200 gets a call i push and i get called by seats 1,4+5 :eek:
3 different flush draws play and i win a monster pot when they all miss
There then follows a bit of a dissection of the hand (of which i am not involved ) where it was suggested that some of those calls where idiotic we have some sheepish looking players


Now we have had some reloads
I am on the BB and Seat 1 raises blind we all play pot is 40 bucks
I have 9854 1 suit spades

Flop comes 862 two spades I check
Seat 1 opens for 40 and gets called by Seats 4 and 5 and after some deliberation Seat 8 folds


Seat 1 has 100 more behind Seats 4+5 have roughly 200 more behind


I repop for the pot which is a 240 bill bet

We like ?
Do we question my ability to feed and dress myself ?

ianmc38

I would never play a sh*t hand like that for 40xBB preflop. Ever.

Now that you've gotten there I'm not too keen on your bet based on the calling station history of these guys.

cardshark202

I don't like at all. It's clear most of the table are calling stations and you have 4 nut outs and 4 non-nut outs and 1 pair. If you are called at all you are in pretty bad shape no doubt. And its pretty likely you're getting called, probably in more than 1 spot. Check folding this hand is generally best.

Killme00

I really really dont like this, anyone that can call you can beat you and i would have folded preflop.

Bandana boy

ianmc38 wrote:

I would never play a sh*t hand like that for 40xBB preflop. Ever.

It was like 5 BBs pre flop which is in fact 1 BB the way table is playing

Killme00

Bandana boy wrote:

It was like 5 BBs pre flop which is in fact 1 BB the way table is playing

its not even worth 1BB..fold preflop man

Edit:Where was this game?

ianmc38

Bandana boy wrote:

It was like 5 BBs pre flop which is in fact 1 BB the way table is playing

4 8 PL? Where was that on?

And i probably wouldn't play it for one BB preflop on the button

Bandana boy

ianmc38 wrote:

4 8 PL? Where was that on?

And i probably wouldn't play it for one BB preflop on the button

So maybe post not clear it is Pot is 40 bucks as we are dealing the flop
Blind raise from utg
So when it gets back to me its like 4 bucks to me and pot will be 40 if i call i close the betting

kebabfest

Dont like the repot as you dont have a hand and the fact is the table is full of chasers.
Therefore you'll get calls from anybody with an overpair\better flush draw at least and even maybe calls from a straight draw.
And if anybody has a real hand like trips you is in a world of hurt that rocky on his best days couldnt get you out of.
Like the description though.

El Stuntman

you are clearly an insane genius

where is this game and how much do I have to pay you to get into it?

5starpool

Preflop is alright, I'm not going to pretend I would fold for 4 quid more into a 40 pot, but you don't have enough of that flop to be comfortable. Your bet here is essentially a bluff and you either need to not get called (unlikely) or get one caller only who has not spades or straight draws (good luck).

Me no likey.

Bandana boy

El Stuntman wrote:

you are clearly an insane genius

where is this game and how much do I have to pay you to get into it?

It is the SE and you will need to pay me 5 bucks to find that out

Doh
Gotta get the bribe then give the info

fuzzbox

This is bad.

Once again you forget the mantra ... dont bluff calling stations (and you are bluffing).

LuckyLloyd

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Killme00

LuckyLloyd wrote:

I see the train of thought behind this. The same players all called in the last time with weak draws, lost and got verbally minced for it. They all look a little embarrassed and here is Mr. Nutley testing what they learned with another big scary bet...

IF seats 4 and 5 don't have the nut flush draw / two pair / set they may not call on this occassion. The lack of pre - flop action indicates that they don't have AA / KK hands that they couldn't escape. They have enough behind that it merits hanging onto.

However, seat 1 is clearly more interested in gambling than winning while gambling. He will probably throw in the last 100 (maybe even blind?). This is where I like - possibillity is that your draw is live against him, and you can stack him and take the money in the middle.

The fact that seat 1 is sure to call will make it harder for the subsequent players to find a call on a draw if they are smarting from the miss on the last hand.


So I see the logic. Whether seat 4 and 5 don't have enough in their hands to call is hard to say. Genius - if slightly twisted.

I think this is too many IFs and BUTs especially with so many people to calling stations to act

LuckyLloyd

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