Honestly?Who knows the national anthem?

bolliwoodi

So who out of you can say you know the Irish National Anthem and be honest!

I do(yay) but i was at the munster final last year...
And i was shocked to hear the people around me mumbling " la la la la la" through the whole anthem!

Not even my Dad knew it all(and he was in the Army) and I was shocked!

We bitch about reviving the Irish language but no one seems to know the anthem.

Or maybe its just where I live?????

Discuss..........

Mossy Monk

maybe it should be taught in primary schools

wasnt in my one anyway

KdjaCL

Where do we hear it?

Going back to Pigmans legendary post many years ago.

" irish people will Q for tickets to get in the other Q for the big event"

No matter what the big event is they will Q for it. But the point remians irish people are gob****es and the ones you see la la la laing it are the epitome of these people, they will say " i was there" tho.


kdjac

Wertz

I know the first verse, and some of last lines; one of the few things as gaelige that I learned in school that actually stayed with me (kind of)

bolliwoodi

Mossy Monk wrote:

maybe it should be taught in primary schools

wasnt in my one anyway

i agree.

i wasnt thought it in school- my big sister thought me it.

But at the final when i sang it out loud(while the la la la ing went on around me) my friends stared at me and afterwards said" Jazus ur fekn smart"

No im not-I just have enough respect for what the irish people fought for to learn the Anthem

Ruu_Old

I can't remember learning it in school but I know a couple of lines but then get lost and wander off in the middle.:(

Dave!

"...Seo libh canaídhhhh Amhrááááán na bhFiannnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!"

GWAN IRELAND!!!!!!

In answer to your question, I know the first verse and the exciting bit at the end

Bob the Builder

Nope, but I'm crap at learning lyrics, I love the song tho... but I dunno the lyrics...

bolliwoodi

DaveMcG wrote:

"...I know the first verse and the exciting bit at the end

Everyone knows that.

i love watching peoples reaction to that-They go from dead bored to hopping around and yelling out the words

Fun for all:D

_blank_

I know it.

InFront

Of course I do
Come the day and come the hour
Come the power and the glory... etc etc

I heart that song:)

bolliwoodi

seansouth wrote:

I know it.

go you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bolliwoodi

InFront wrote:

Of course I do
Come the day and come the hour
Come the power and the glory... etc etc

I heart that song:)

in irish i mean as well you know!

eamoss

For some odd reason in primary school we only learned the 1st half of it and thats the bit I know now!

LB6

I know it - you guys want the lyrics?

Just for you - and yes it's downloaded - too long to type up!

Amhrán na bhFiann

Seo dhibh a cháirde duan Óglaigh,
Cathréimeach briomhar ceolmhar,
Ár dtinte cnámh go buacach táid,
'S an spéir go min réaltogach
Is fonnmhar faobhrach sinn chun gleo
'S go tiúnmhar glé roimh thíocht do'n ló
Fé chiúnas chaomh na hoiche ar seol:
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

Curfá:
Sinne Fianna Fáil
A tá fé gheall ag Éirinn,
buion dár slua
Thar toinn do ráinig chugainn,
Fé mhóid bheith saor.
Sean tír ár sinsir feasta
Ní fhagfar fé'n tiorán ná fé'n tráil
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil
Le guna screach fé lámhach na bpiléar
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

Cois bánta réidhe, ar árdaibh sléibhe,
Ba bhuachach ár sinsir romhainn,
Ag lámhach go tréan fé'n sár-bhrat séin
Tá thuas sa ghaoith go seolta
Ba dhúchas riamh d'ár gcine cháidh
Gan iompáil siar ó imirt áir,
'S ag siúl mar iad i gcoinne námhad
Seo libh, canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

Curfá

A bhuíon nách fann d'fhuil Ghaeil is Gall,
Sin breacadh lae na saoirse,
Ta scéimhle 's scanradh i gcroíthe namhad,
Roimh ranna laochra ár dtire.
Ár dtinte is tréith gan spréach anois,
Sin luisne ghlé san spéir anoir,
'S an bíobha i raon na bpiléar agaibh:
Seo libh, canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

Curfá

humanji

I don't know it. What I see as the main problem is that it's rubbish. Almost all national anthems are. You need something with a bit of umph. I like the Irish rugby song, Irelands Call. It's got a better tune, more rythme and doesn't drone on. They should try and translate it to Irish (although that'll probably lose a load of the people who sing it).

If anyone here's heard the Brazilian anthem, it's brilliant. It sounds like something from an Opera but it's all perky and happy sounding (it's probably about death and suffering, but hey, it's in a foreign language so, meh).

Dave!

humanji wrote:

I don't know it. What I see as the main problem is that it's rubbish. Almost all national anthems are. You need something with a bit of umph. I like the Irish rugby song, Irelands Call. It's got a better tune, more rythme and doesn't drone on. They should try and translate it to Irish (although that'll probably lose a load of the people who sing it).

If anyone here's heard the Brazilian anthem, it's brilliant. It sounds like something from an Opera but it's all perky and happy sounding (it's probably about death and suffering, but hey, it's in a foreign language so, meh).

eh, French national anthem FTW.

La Marseillaise!
http://www.navyband.navy.mil/anthems/ANTHEMS/France.mp3

edit:

Scene from Casablanca where they drown out the Nazis with La Marseillaise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hJ-HI05NR0

Victor Laslo

Faith

I know it. I just sang it to myself there, then saw LB6's post, sang it again, and confirmed I knew it.

I was one of the lucky few who got to sing it on stage at the Chor Fhéile many years ago. I've known it perfectly ever since. And there was a time when I knew it in English too . I actually really like the National Anthem.

Mossy Monk

humanji wrote:

You need something with a bit of umph

the anthem of the old USSR is great

humanji

And they knew how to get things done!

Maybe they should reinvent the anthem like they always reinvent films (like James Bond etc). Just take the basics of the old one and put a new tune to it. They could do it each year with a kind of Pop Idol type system!


edit:
actually, here's a link to the Brazilian National Anthem. (If that doesn't work, it's in wikipedia)

bolliwoodi

humanji wrote:

What I see as the main problem is that it's rubbish.

huh???????????????????


i think its great

johnp

LB6 wrote:

I know it - you guys want the lyrics?

Just for you - and yes it's downloaded - too long to type up!

Amhrán na bhFiann

Seo dhibh a cháirde duan Óglaigh,
Cathréimeach briomhar ceolmhar,
Ár dtinte cnámh go buacach táid,
'S an spéir go min réaltogach
Is fonnmhar faobhrach sinn chun gleo
'S go tiúnmhar glé roimh thíocht do'n ló
Fé chiúnas chaomh na hoiche ar seol:
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

Curfá:
Sinne Fianna Fáil
A tá fé gheall ag Éirinn,
buion dár slua
Thar toinn do ráinig chugainn,
Fé mhóid bheith saor.
Sean tír ár sinsir feasta
Ní fhagfar fé'n tiorán ná fé'n tráil
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil
Le guna screach fé lámhach na bpiléar
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

Cois bánta réidhe, ar árdaibh sléibhe,
Ba bhuachach ár sinsir romhainn,
Ag lámhach go tréan fé'n sár-bhrat séin
Tá thuas sa ghaoith go seolta
Ba dhúchas riamh d'ár gcine cháidh
Gan iompáil siar ó imirt áir,
'S ag siúl mar iad i gcoinne námhad
Seo libh, canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

Curfá

A bhuíon nách fann d'fhuil Ghaeil is Gall,
Sin breacadh lae na saoirse,
Ta scéimhle 's scanradh i gcroíthe namhad,
Roimh ranna laochra ár dtire.
Ár dtinte is tréith gan spréach anois,
Sin luisne ghlé san spéir anoir,
'S an bíobha i raon na bpiléar agaibh:
Seo libh, canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

Curfá

Some odd spellings in there. For example, I'd say "faoi" instead of "fé".

PeadarofAodh

I've never really had the opportunity or the drive to learn the anthem. My loyalty with sports teams is always mixed up because I'm officially English but have lived in Ireland for years. What's happened is I only know literally the first line of both the English and Irish anthem. I don't feel patriotic enough to learn the English one off my own bat and I've never been taught the Irish one and don't find the Irish language attractive enough (Attractive mind, not saying I don't like it for any other reason!) to go and learn it.

I will say I much prefer the Irish tune though. At least at Irish games the fans don't insist on singing the anthem again and again during the match...becomes pretty monotonous hearing them singing about an old lady over and over!

RoundyMooney

Mossy Monk wrote:

the anthem of the old USSR is great

The German, also.

It must be all those old war movies depicting jackboots and fascism warping my fragile little mind...

mumbles:/Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, Über alles in der Welt...

RoundyMooney

johnp wrote:

Some odd spellings in there. For example, I'd say "faoi" instead of "fé".

I just know the curfás, which I hold, is the limit of 90% of people's knowledge also. Most are even unaware that verses exist, and substitute "Charlie Haughey" for "Seo libh canadh".

luckat

I can never understand why the Irish teams in various sports don't learn it - and sing it as an exercise in pre-game bonding. If they really shouted it out with feeling, in total unison, it would give a huge boost of energy and psych them right up. Basic psychology.

mad m

Soldiers are we,who fight the pledge of Ireland,
Some have come from the land beyond the sea,
Sworn to be free,once more in Ireland.

Dont ask,cant remember.Im off.

bolliwoodi

luckat wrote:

I can never understand why the Irish teams in various sports don't learn it - and sing it as an exercise in pre-game bonding. If they really shouted it out with feeling, in total unison, it would give a huge boost of energy and psych them right up. Basic psychology.

YA

i was watchn d irl/ san marino game earlier in d week n was shocked dat wen dey showd d team half of them wernt even singng!!

bolliwoodi

mad m wrote:

Soldiers are we,who fight the pledge of Ireland,.

weird.....

i was taut " Soldiers are we,whos lives we pledge to Ireland

Kwekubo

johnp wrote:

Some odd spellings in there. For example, I'd say "faoi" instead of "fé".

The anthem was written before Irish was standardised in the 1960s, so the "official" version contains a few non-standard words. I think most people would learn a standard-Irish version nowadays.

bolliwoodi wrote:

weird.....

i was taut " Soldiers are we,whos lives we pledge to Ireland

IIRC, its:

Soldiers are we whose lives are pledged to Ireland
Some have come from a land beyond the wave
Sworn to be free, no more our ancient sire-land
Shall shelter the despot or the slave.
Tonight we man the bearna baoil
In Erin's cause, come woe or weal
'Mid cannon's roar and rifle's peal
We'll chant a soldiers' song.

These are the original words of the song, by the way (the Irish version was a translation)

l3rian

lol

bolliwoodi

Kwekubo wrote:

The anthem was written before Irish was standardised in the 1960s, so the "official" version contains a few non-standard words. I think most people would learn a standard-Irish version nowadays.

go u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with ur KNOWLEDGEABLELESS(its nota word)

Scraggs

I really love our anthem and know it obh like every Irish person should imo!

Heisenberg.

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mad m

bolliwoodi wrote:

weird.....

i was taut " Soldiers are we,whos lives we pledge to Ireland

Ok then,leave out the fight and the and pop in yours and hey presto!

kaimera

Do I know all of it?

No.

I do know whats sang at games etc tho, the important part

Thought in school iirc.

Thrill

Dont know it and its never bothered me either. I cant think of one instance where it was important that i know it.

I just lalala along with the other lalala-ers.

admiralofthefleet

i know it and im proud to, i wouldnt sing it in a pub mind.

Xavi6

I learnt it at the Gaeltacht and am delighted I did. Everyone should know it from a young age. This mumbling that goes on annoys me because it's usually the self proclaimed 'patriots' who haven't a breeze. We should at least know our own anthem. The song itself is fantastic and really gets everyone pumped for a big game.

Someone mentioned 'Ireland's Call' as being a better song. Gimme a break. It's feckin awful.

LB6

well said Admiralgar. Me too - pround to know it and sing it out loud.

Civilian_Target

I know it - learnt it about 2 years ago because I was asahmed that I didn't know it! I learnt the first line as "Siné Laochra Fáil" though...

Exit

Sinn na Fianna Fail...

and that's all I know. Not bothered.

ArthurDent

Taught it in both Irish and English in school, am teaching my own kids it. Only sing it in Irish now.
Don't particularly "like" it as an anthem - think it doesn't reflect where we are now, but accept that it IS the anthem and will contiue singing it until /if it changes.
If there was a vote to change it, I'd like to change the wording though

Dar

LB6 wrote:

Curfá:
Sinne Fianna Fáil
A tá fé gheall ag Éirinn,
buion dár slua
Thar toinn do ráinig chugainn,
Fé mhóid bheith saor.
Sean tír ár sinsir feasta
Ní fhagfar fé'n tiorán ná fé'n tráil
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil
Le guna screach fé lámhach na bpiléar
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

The national anthem is the chorus of the original song, not the whole thing.

Rb

Yes, I know it and have done for over ten years now.

Dave!

Hah, just remembering that at my Christmas party just gone, the last song the DJ played was... yes you've guessed it... Amhrán na BhFiann.

I cringed

Katykaboom

I learned it in fourth year.... when I did learn it I realised, every Irish person should know it, regardless of wether you like it or not.

Hagar

When I went to school in the Christian Brothers they used have their "own brand" stationery and the National Anthem was printed inside the back cover of every copybook. I don't know if they still do that.

whiskeyman

It was drilled into us in primary school. Thinking back, I think my teacher then was a bit or a 'Ra head.
Anyway, I'm glad I know it and will always stand and belt it out if I'm at Croker, or even watching an international match in the pub.
It always makes the hair on the back of my neck rise hearing it, and it's really a shame when you stand beside other who haven't a feckin clue. The only good thing us Irish seem to be good at about our heritage and culture is drinking!

Kinda off topic, I was in a pub on Camden st last year, and there were a group of folk from New Zealand at a table at the window. A passer-by (another Kiki) on the footpath recognised a few of the gang. They were probably a bit merry, but one of the gang inside the pub got up and started to do the Haka, with the bloke outside looking in doing it too! Everyone in the pub were amazed and it got a huge cheer! I wonder what it looked like from out in the street!:D

Mushy

I only know bits and pieces of it. Was in Spain when we learned it oin school. And it was the one thing I wanted to learn. Im patch in places, and then too loud in others

Kojak

Yeah, I know the national anthem - learned it in school