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[US/IRL] 3X07 - "Not In Portland" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


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    Twas only alright. The Clockwork Orange/Charlie and the Chocolate Factory room was stupid. Juliette's backstory was good enough, nice to see Andre Drazen making a return to telly after his Jack Bauer episode. And too much Jack pisses me off, and there was WAY over the acceptable amount for Jack in this episode.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭derdoh


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    I thought it was a great episode

    it'll be interesting to see what happens when ben wakes up,will Juliette get off the island?

    will sawyer and kate get over to the other island?

    Who knows bring on next week i say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭kevmy


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    I saw the getting hit by a bus thing a mile off but still good. I'd say a Dharma guy driving it and nothing to do with psychic ability.

    Good episode if a little predictable and without much shocks or major advancements. The thing about it was we knew they wouldn't kill Ben cause he's too good of a character. All in all I gave it an eight interesting without being riveting good without being excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    User45701 wrote:
    that was a terrible episode, i gave it a 5 for plot advancement but relay it held no interest for me which is kinda sad sometimes i think it would be better not to watch lost and only watch it after an entire season has been released and then watch ever single episode back to back, thats what i did with season one.

    It's funny, a lot of people who watch lost and also 24 say this. I watched the first seasons like this, well over the course of few weeks but the same type of idea and I quite like the fact that I have to wait weekly. It means I can read about what others think will happen, opinions of show, discuss the mythodology etc which for me is a big part of the appeal of lost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


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    kevmy wrote:
    I saw the getting hit by a bus thing a mile off but still good. I'd say a Dharma guy driving it and nothing to do with psychic ability.
    And he followed him around in a bus all day in the hopes that he'd cross the road without looking?


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,052 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    And he followed him around in a bus all day in the hopes that he'd cross the road without looking?
    Sshh stop looking for sensible answers from the show... just enjoy the pretty questions...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


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    kevmy wrote:
    I saw the getting hit by a bus thing a mile off but still good. I'd say a Dharma guy driving it and nothing to do with psychic ability.

    Good episode if a little predictable and without much shocks or major advancements. The thing about it was we knew they wouldn't kill Ben cause he's too good of a character. All in all I gave it an eight interesting without being riveting good without being excellent.

    I dunno, I think that it was more the psychic thing, which is why (combined with her psychic ability) lead Dharma to try to recruit her in the first place!

    Also, I think that the tissues that Ethan passed to Juliette had the Dharma logo on it... :D I could be wrong, ya only saw them for a second, but that's what it looked like to me... I just thought thats a nice touch, and knew who was offering her the tissues straight away from that :D

    Also, I think that a lot of the tension watching this episode came from knowing they couldn't kill Ben because he's such a good character, but being afraid just in case they did ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


    Carlton gave away the plane crash mystery recently in an interview, it's big news on the fuselage.

    Care to elaborate?

    Something I just remembered, Aldo was reading "A brief history of time" by Stephen Hawking. Kinda adds weight too the whole time-might-be-moving differently-then-normal theory. It seems a bit too obvious to include it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭abelard


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    One of my flatmates (history buff) tells me that Edmund Burke (name of Juliette's husband) was an Irish politician and philosopher, known best for his fierce sriticisms of the French Revolution.

    Make of that what you will! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭lukin


    kevmy wrote:
    The thing about it was we knew they wouldn't kill Ben cause he's too good of a character.

    I dunno, I wasn't too sure he was going to make it when the machine started bleeping like crazy after Jack cut that artery.
    I had to laugh at the interchange between him and the guy:
    "What happened?"
    "I nicked an artery"
    "I thought you already did that?"
    "That was on purpose"
    :D


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,186 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


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    Wow so nobody has seen the Final Destination "bus" scene which prompted me to coin the phrase "stealth bus". Must be a new secret project. The whole episode seemed to be about film nods - wookie prisoner trick (best line in the ep), clockwork orange & imo final destination. Average episode. I'll stick with it and ignore that shark Lost seems to be slowly jumping over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


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    The Clockwork Orange scene kinda reminded me of the time they went through the tunnel in Charlie and the Chocolate factory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


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    Both from the clockwork orange scene:

    Pause 52 seconds in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qONMiSKycfQ

    Interesting from about 42ish seconds in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwWhM8Xb_oQ

    So, on the first one: Remember Jacob? "He wasn't even on Jacob's list" said Pickett in 'I Do.' Notice on the screen this time it said 'loved' Jacob. Past tense? Is Jacob dead?

    Second one: "only fools are enslaved by time and space." EH? I'm beginning to think that this is some religous cult now.

    Anyway, what do ye reckon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Kazooie


    7
    Not bad at all. Was expecting an 'other' back story. Hoping it was going to be Ben, but they'll probably save that for the end of this season.
    Nice to see them get to how and why the others were brought to the island.
    Again though the show is always hinting at stuff without answering anything concrete. The whole baby thing makes you think about their interest in Claires baby, Suns and Walt.
    Like most people who loved the first season and to a lesser extent the second, I hope the writers take on board the recent criticism of the shows lack of direction and prove they're not just making it up as they go along.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


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    There was apparently a meeting between the writers and the money bags(producers?) about when to end the show and as far as I am aware they agreed on 5 seasons. As such they are supposedly aiming to have everything wrapped up by then and have meant to have created(finished?) an overall story arc for the show.

    Anyways, I found the episode average. Was a little disappointed in a few places. The wookie prisoner trick reminds me of the Stargate adage of doing something stupendously obvious and then pointing it out in a mocking way, thus making the audience feel that it was intended to be easy.

    It was just silly... who didnt see the bus coming a mile away (metaphorically, I mean? :p)

    The baby malarky was subtle but seemed relevant but what was her seeing her emotional and physical replacement for, at all, when she had no other relevance to the episode?

    Anyway, as I said, average episode not enough to make me not watch Lost first next week, but just barely enough to keep me watching all the same.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


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    I assumed the Jacob reference was a biblical reference, I'm sure there are many Jacobs there ;) Though I think your's is better...

    As for the other scene... I dont think there is much point theorising at this stage as we just dont have enough information at this time.

    Oh and do you think there is any important on the fact that Sawyer seemed particularly spooked by the whole scene?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


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    Ivan wrote:
    I assumed the Jacob reference was a biblical reference, I'm sure there are many Jacobs there ;) Though I think your's is better...

    As for the other scene... I dont think there is much point theorising at this stage as we just dont have enough information at this time.

    Oh and do you think there is any important on the fact that Sawyer seemed particularly spooked by the whole scene?
    Nah. Kate put on her scared face (she only has two, you see) too. Jacob must be some leader or something I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


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    Maybe it was the long break or maybe I'm delusional, but that was one of the best Lost episodes that I've seen in a long time. I liked how the story progressed and I loved Juliettes flashbacks and the refreshing and much longed for insight into an "Other" that it offered.

    What I'm puzzled with though, is how Juliette has seemingly been imprisoned on the Island despite being promised an endless budget and a dedicated team of research assistants. Was she deceived? Or perhaps she tried to cross them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭abelard


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    Nah. Kate put on her scared face (she only has two, you see) too. Jacob must be some leader or something I reckon.

    No I have to say I thought it seemed to get at Sawyer moreso too. The other two were trying to free Karl, while Sawyer just seemed to be transfixed by what was on the screen, and he had to be brought around by Kate screaming at him to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


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    Yeah I agree, it was more transfixed than anything else I thought...

    Possibly the rest of the "others" go through some kind of the same kind of brainwashing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,073 ✭✭✭✭Basq


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    Merged with the existing thread.. please keep all discussion related to the episode in the appropriate discussion thread.

    As it hasn't even aired on Sky / RTE yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


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    Clearly Jacob is a reference to these:

    jaffa_cake.jpg

    And only time will tell how significant this is.... I know I felt like eating a whole bunch of Jaffa Cakes after watching this episode anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,073 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    6
    Clearly Jacob is a reference to these:

    jaffa_cake.jpg

    And only time will tell how significant this is.... I know I felt like eating a whole bunch of Jaffa Cakes after watching this episode anyway.
    *** slobbers ***

    Mmmmmmmmmm... bib-lic-al!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


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    Ye backsturds! Now I'm craving Jaffa cakes... D:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


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    Really decent return I thought. In terms of questions being answered there wasn't a lot there, but there was plenty of action and the back story was good imo. Is that the first back story we've had of one of the others? I can't think off the top of my head, but it was nice to see some insight into Juliette's character.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭kevmy


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    And he followed him around in a bus all day in the hopes that he'd cross the road without looking?

    No he waited for him. It's Dharma so they have obviously been watching Juilet for along time before making their apporach. As part of this surveilence they have kept an eye on her ex-husband, considering the fact she works for him and all. So they know his schedule. They steal a bus then they wait outside his office and see him talking to Juilet. He steps onto the road then SPLATT!!

    Alternatively they could have followed Juilet as she was waiting outside his office fro him. If you look where she is talking to him on the footpath you can see the bus parked a little bit away.

    And since when is Juilet supposed to have psychic abilities? We've never seen anything to suggest she has them. Desmond, Locke, Eko, Walt have all had some ammount of paranormal visions but we've never seen one from an Other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Wonder what has happened since the sky went purple - i thought that could have been important, damn Jacks clumsy hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭DeadParrot


    Just a quick one,

    anyone else think that Kate may have been in the brainwashing room before. Remember episode in in S3 when she gets back to the cages with bruised wrists?

    And can someone clarify what Carlton let out about the plane crash please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭man1


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    The wife was talking when juliette said something to the girl rescueing sawyer and kate that made her stay on the island? What was that? Its bugging me!

    Also what has happened to the other (black woman) who seemed to be some kind of leader before, she was there when they let hurley go? Havent seen her since or did I miss an episode??? She was the one who sent michael back to get jack, kate and sawyer if he wanted walt back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


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    Tauren wrote:
    Wonder what has happened since the sky went purple - i thought that could have been important, damn Jacks clumsy hands.
    I reckon the magnetic pull knocked some satelitte they were using to communicate with the outside world, in particular, that bloke in Juliette's flashbacks with the eye-liner.

    Just a theory.

    And to that Ms Klugh question, that actress was involved in a car crash a couple of months ago. That's why she's not there.


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