$50/100 $4000 Cap Pot Limit Omaha (Allin every hand)

digiman

I have been watching this on Full Tilt and it is just crazy. Roland de wolfe(103k), serb2127(46k) and grimstarr(123k) just keep going all in every single hand. What is the point in this? Are they just playing for fun or what are they at. I have seen about 15 hands now and every one was all in preflop. These guys are just crazy.
Can they really have that much money where they can afford to put $4k each into the pot every single hand? They must be doing it for fun or something as I guess on average no one is going to lose that much if they keep playing unless you are on a weird streak of luck

One pretty typical hand:
Dealer: serb2127 posts the small blind of $50
Grimstarr: thought that q won it for u
Dealer: Roland de Wolfe posts the big blind of $100
Dealer: Grimstarr raises to $200
DefconTen (Observer): i looooooooooooove this game
Roland de Wolfe: 22 again
Dealer: serb2127 raises to $700
Roland de Wolfe: wtf
Dealer: Roland de Wolfe raises to $2,300
Dealer: Grimstarr raises to $4,000, and is capped
serb2127: 4 one time
ald1das77 (Observer): yea vegas, new mexico lmao
Dealer: serb2127 calls $3,300, and is capped
Dealer: Roland de Wolfe calls $1,700, and is capped
Dealer: Grimstarr shows [Qc 5s 3c Kh]
Dealer: serb2127 shows [9c Js 4s 4h]
Dealer: Roland de Wolfe shows [2h 2d 7c Jh]
KEEGOLD (Observer): IF 2 COME U SHOOT THE 10 LOL
Dealer: The flop is
Dealer: The turn is [7d]
Dealer: The river is [Tc]
Dealer: Grimstarr shows two pair, Tens and Fives
Dealer: serb2127 shows two pair, Tens and Fours
Dealer: Roland de Wolfe shows two pair, Tens and Sevens
Dealer: Roland de Wolfe wins the pot ($11,999) with two pair,
Tens and Sevens
702poker (Observer): u getting pwned grim
mase_gotsem (Observer): lmao
Grimstarr: sikk

phantom_lord

lol, still doing it.


who's "the jolly giant"?

phantom_lord

halibut2 is in now lol.

5starpool

Pussies playing on a capped table. Our .01/.02 blind Omaha sessions aren't capped

BigCityBanker

any fresh hand histories?

phantom_lord

Full Tilt Poker Game #1748168447: Table Pike (6 max) - $50/$100 - $4,000 Cap Pot Limit Omaha - 5:19:43 ET - 2007/02/07
Seat 1: serb2127 ($108,397.50)
Seat 2: halibut2 ($19,998)
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe ($167,022), is sitting out
Seat 4: Grimstarr ($37,088.90)
Seat 5: Luck123 ($4,000), is sitting out
Seat 6: howisitfeellike ($33,969.50)
Roland de Wolfe: i want susisu
howisitfeellike posts the small blind of $50
serb2127 posts the big blind of $100
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
serb2127: lol call him
halibut2 raises to $350
Grimstarr raises to $600
howisitfeellike raises to $850
serb2127 raises to $3,500
Roland de Wolfe: serb is now number two
halibut2 calls $3,150
Grimstarr calls $2,900
howisitfeellike raises to $4,000, and is capped
serb2127: hes the biggest fish
serb2127 calls $500, and is capped
halibut2 calls $500, and is capped
Grimstarr calls $500, and is capped
howisitfeellike shows [3s 7c 6c Jc]
serb2127 shows
halibut2 shows [Qs 5d 5s Qh]
serb2127: no way
Grimstarr shows [3h 4h 6h As]
*** FLOP *** [Js Qc 3d]
*** TURN *** [Js Qc 3d] [6d]
Roland de Wolfe: serb r u ranled number two in props
*** RIVER *** [Js Qc 3d 6d] [7s]
howisitfeellike shows two pair, Jacks and Sevens
serb2127 shows Queen Jack high
halibut2 shows three of a kind, Queens
Grimstarr shows two pair, Sixes and Threes
halibut2 wins the pot ($15,998) with three of a kind, Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16,000 | Rake $2
Board: [Js Qc 3d 6d 7s]
Seat 1: serb2127 (big blind) showed and lost with Queen Jack high
Seat 2: halibut2 showed [Qs 5d 5s Qh] and won ($15,998) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe is sitting out
Seat 4: Grimstarr (button) showed [3h 4h 6h As] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Threes
Seat 5: Luck123 is sitting out
Seat 6: howisitfeellike (small blind) showed [3s 7c 6c Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sevens

Full Tilt Poker Game #1748177942: Table Pike (6 max) - $50/$100 - $4,000 Cap Pot Limit Omaha - 5:25:04 ET - 2007/02/07
Seat 1: serb2127 ($124,391.50)
Seat 2: halibut2 ($3,996)
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe ($179,019)
Seat 4: Grimstarr ($21,086.90)
Seat 5: Luck123 ($4,000), is sitting out
Seat 6: howisitfeellike ($37,964.50)
Grimstarr posts the small blind of $50
howisitfeellike posts the big blind of $100
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
serb2127 raises to $350
halibut2 raises to $1,200
Roland de Wolfe raises to $4,000, and is capped
Grimstarr calls $3,950, and is capped
howisitfeellike calls $3,900, and is capped
serb2127 calls $3,650, and is capped
halibut2 calls $2,796, and is all in
Roland de Wolfe shows [Ad Kc 2s 4d]
Grimstarr shows [3s Ah Tc 3c]
howisitfeellike shows [2h 3h Jc 4s]
serb2127 shows [7c Qc 8s Kh]
halibut2 shows [Ac Th Jh Qh]
*** FLOP *** [Jd 7d 2c]
*** TURN *** [Jd 7d 2c]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 7d 2c Td] [6s]
Roland de Wolfe shows a flush, Ace high
Grimstarr shows a pair of Tens
serb2127: soo sick
howisitfeellike shows two pair, Jacks and Twos
serb2127 shows a pair of Sevens
Roland de Wolfe wins the side pot ($16) with a flush, Ace high
halibut2 shows two pair, Jacks and Tens
Roland de Wolfe wins the main pot ($19,977) with a flush, Ace high
halibut2 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $19,996 Main pot $19,980. Side pot $16. | Rake $3
Board: [Jd 7d 2c Td 6s]
Seat 1: serb2127 showed [7c Qc 8s Kh] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 2: halibut2 showed [Ac Th Jh Qh] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe (button) showed [Ad Kc 2s 4d] and won ($19,993) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: Grimstarr (small blind) showed [3s Ah Tc 3c] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: Luck123 is sitting out
Seat 6: howisitfeellike (big blind) showed [2h 3h Jc 4s] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Twos

phantom_lord

Full Tilt Poker Game #1748182690: Table Pike (6 max) - $50/$100 - $4,000 Cap Pot Limit Omaha - 5:27:48 ET - 2007/02/07
Seat 1: serb2127 ($124,389.50)
Seat 2: Susisisu ($20,000)
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe ($183,012)
Seat 4: Grimstarr ($37,082.90)
Seat 5: Luck123 ($4,000), is sitting out
Seat 6: howisitfeellike ($21,964.50)
Grimstarr posts the small blind of $50
howisitfeellike posts the big blind of $100
Susisisu posts $100
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Susisisu: lol no
serb2127 raises to $450
Susisisu raises to $1,500
Roland de Wolfe raises to $4,000, and is capped
Grimstarr calls $3,950, and is capped
howisitfeellike calls $3,900, and is capped
serb2127: walruss sits down and i win
serb2127 calls $3,550, and is capped
Susisisu calls $2,500, and is capped
Roland de Wolfe shows [4c Th Ks 2s]
Grimstarr shows [Kc Ac 3d 7c]
serb2127: 10
howisitfeellike shows [As Qd 9h 5s]
serb2127 shows [3h Td 9c Tc]
Susisisu shows [Kh Ad 5d 9s]
*** FLOP *** [6s 5c 5h]
*** TURN *** [6s 5c 5h] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [6s 5c 5h Kd] [Ts]
Roland de Wolfe shows two pair, Kings and Tens
Grimstarr shows two pair, Kings and Fives
howisitfeellike shows three of a kind, Fives
serb2127 shows a full house, Tens full of Fives
Susisisu shows a full house, Fives full of Kings
serb2127 wins the pot ($19,997) with a full house, Tens full of Fives
serb2127: lolollolololollllllll
Roland de Wolfe: 1 out
serb2127: lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Susisisu: u so sick serb
howisitfeellike: welcome to thegame
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20,000 | Rake $3
Board: [6s 5c 5h Kd Ts]
Seat 1: serb2127 showed [3h Td 9c Tc] and won ($19,997) with a full house, Tens full of Fives
Seat 2: Susisisu showed [Kh Ad 5d 9s] and lost with a full house, Fives full of Kings
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe (button) showed [4c Th Ks 2s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 4: Grimstarr (small blind) showed [Kc Ac 3d 7c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 5: Luck123 is sitting out
Seat 6: howisitfeellike (big blind) showed [As Qd 9h 5s] and lost with three of a kind, Fives

LuckyLloyd

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phantom_lord

Full Tilt Poker Game #1748198794: Table Pike (6 max) - $50/$100 - $4,000 Cap Pot Limit Omaha - 5:37:06 ET - 2007/02/07
Seat 1: serb2127 ($108,383.50)
Seat 2: Susisisu ($89,064.90)
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe ($167,006)
Seat 4: halibut2 ($16,000)
Seat 5: SaturdayNight1 ($8,000), is sitting out
Seat 6: howisitfeellike ($53,842.95)
Roland de Wolfe posts the small blind of $50
halibut2 posts the big blind of $100
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Roland de Wolfe: halibut
howisitfeellike raises to $350
serb2127 raises to $1,200
Susisisu: lol no
serb2127: he knows i think
Susisisu raises to $4,000, and is capped
Roland de Wolfe calls $3,950, and is capped
halibut2 calls $3,900, and is capped
howisitfeellike calls $3,650, and is capped
serb2127 calls $2,800, and is capped
Susisisu shows [9h 5c 4d Th]
Roland de Wolfe shows [5d 4s Ts Qh]
Susisisu: last one
halibut2 shows [2h Ac Kc Ks]
howisitfeellike shows [5h Kh Jd 7h]
serb2127 shows [As Ad Ah 8d]
*** FLOP *** [4h Qc 8c]
*** TURN *** [4h Qc 8c] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [4h Qc 8c 3c] [8h]
Susisisu shows two pair, Eights and Fours
Roland de Wolfe shows two pair, Queens and Eights
halibut2 shows a flush, Ace high
Susisisu: gg
howisitfeellike shows a pair of Eights
SaturdayNight1 stands up
serb2127 shows three of a kind, Eights
halibut2 wins the pot ($19,997) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20,000 | Rake $3
Board: [4h Qc 8c 3c 8h]
Seat 1: serb2127 showed [As Ad Ah 8d] and lost with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 2: Susisisu (button) showed [9h 5c 4d Th] and lost with two pair, Eights and Fours
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe (small blind) showed [5d 4s Ts Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 4: halibut2 (big blind) showed [2h Ac Kc Ks] and won ($19,997) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: SaturdayNight1 is sitting out
Seat 6: howisitfeellike showed [5h Kh Jd 7h] and lost with a pair of Eights



halibut2 took grims seat after he busted out, and won the first three hands, lol. sitting out with 44k.

BigCityBanker

phantom_lord wrote:

halibut2 took grims seat after he busted out, and won the first three hands, lol. sitting out with 44k.

I love it - I hope he walks away and goes on the beer!!

phantom_lord

BigCityBanker wrote:

I love it - I hope he walks away and goes on the beer!!

good days work i reckon!

digiman

phantom_lord wrote:

halibut2 took grims seat after he busted out, and won the first three hands, lol. sitting out with 44k.

Did grim leave or actually go bust? He had 123k when I was watching at the start!! Thats one bad days work.

Who is halibut2 by the way, Ive seen him mentioned on here a lot.

phantom_lord

he went bust, had 225k at one point some of the railers said.

digiman

phantom_lord wrote:

he went bust, had 225k at one point some of the railers said.

Ouch!!
This may seem like a stupid question but can they really be playing for that money blind? Do they have any kind of agreement with each other I wonder?
In fairness who can afford to lose that sort of money?

phantom_lord

Full Tilt Poker Game #1747966200: Table Pike (6 max) - $50/$100 - $4,000 Cap Pot Limit Omaha - 3:47:15 ET - 2007/02/07
Seat 1: serb2127 ($42,461)
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe ($109,073.50)
Seat 4: Grimstarr ($121,138.40)
serb2127 posts the small blind of $50
Roland de Wolfe posts the big blind of $100
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Grimstarr raises to $200
serb2127 raises to $700
Roland de Wolfe raises to $2,300
serb2127: this is me
Grimstarr raises to $4,000, and is capped
serb2127 calls $3,300, and is capped
Grimstarr: 5
Roland de Wolfe calls $1,700, and is capped
Grimstarr shows [5s 5c 8d Kh]
serb2127 shows [6s 7c 9s Ks]
Roland de Wolfe shows [6h 4c 6c Ad]
Roland de Wolfe: str8
Grimstarr: 5
*** FLOP *** [Ts 5h Qs]
*** TURN *** [Ts 5h Qs] [Js]
Grimstarr: yaa
Grimstarr: HOLD
*** RIVER *** [Ts 5h Qs Js] [5d]
Grimstarr: NOOO
Grimstarr shows four of a kind, Fives
Grimstarr: YAAA
serb2127 shows a straight flush, King high
Roland de Wolfe shows two pair, Sixes and Fives
Grimstarr: LOLOL
serb2127 wins the pot ($11,999) with a straight flush, King high
Grimstarr: WTF
Grimstarr: W
Grimstarr: FF
Grimstarr: FF
Grimstarr: F
Grimstarr: F
Grimstarr: F
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12,000 | Rake $1
Board: [Ts 5h Qs Js 5d]
Seat 1: serb2127 (small blind) showed [6s 7c 9s Ks] and won ($11,999) with a straight flush, King high
Seat 3: Roland de Wolfe (big blind) showed [6h 4c 6c Ad] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fives
Seat 4: Grimstarr (button) showed [5s 5c 8d Kh] and lost with four of a kind, Fives

ianmc38

digiman wrote:

Who is halibut2 by the way, Ive seen him mentioned on here a lot.

Biggest luckbox out there. Made his whole bankroll from hitting and running in blind Omaha games. Built it up from .05/.10 games on Tribeca.

It's rumoured he has a pattern mapper for Full Tilt.

BigCityBanker

ianmc38 wrote:

Biggest luckbox out there. Made his whole bankroll from hitting and running in blind Omaha games. Built it up from .05/.10 games on Tribeca.

It's rumoured he has a pattern mapper for Full Tilt.

It is also rumoured that he is The Stig from BBC's Top Gear programme.

Marq

lol @ pattern mapping.

djsctt

digiman wrote:

Who is halibut2 by the way, Ive seen him mentioned on here a lot.

He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real....

Flushdraw

ianmc38 wrote:

Biggest luckbox out there. Made his whole bankroll from hitting and running in blind Omaha games. Built it up from .05/.10 games on Tribeca.

It's rumoured he has a pattern mapper for Full Tilt.

I heard that if you say his name 5 times while at a poker table, he appears in the empty seat, takes all your money and leaves....never tried it with The Jolly Giant incase he ends up there too!

phantom_lord

grimstarr wrote:

so i blew 300k this week at 'coinflips' where me and another player(s) would go all in preflop for $4000-5000 per hand

that is a very signifcant number to me (about half my bankroll)

i have also been running bad at 25-50 and my online roll is about half of what it was a few days ago

suggestions?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9099119&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=beats&Number=9099432&page=0&fpart=all

58o

wow. what a tool

BigCityBanker

absolute gimp.

digiman

Thats just unreal. What a fool, as I said earlier who can afford to be messing around with that much money?
Does any one know who majorly profited from this fool or was a nice even split on the donk!!

phantom_lord

ronald de wolfe took a heft chunk, can't remember who else was on the table.

58o

you have to wonder about a lot of these guys, working so hard at their poker game then ****ing it away doing crap like this, prop bets or playing golf for 20k a hole.

BigCityBanker

He should put the session down to variance

5starpool

He should move up levels.

RoundTower

digiman wrote:

Thats just unreal. What a fool, as I said earlier who can afford to be messing around with that much money?
Does any one know who majorly profited from this fool or was a nice even split on the donk!!

BigCityBanker wrote:

absolute gimp.

58o wrote:

wow. what a tool

lol at these posts. You're only a fool if you lose, right?

BigCityBanker

RoundTower wrote:

lol at these posts. You're only a fool if you lose, right?

no this is not right - you are a fool if you are willing to gamble half your bankroll in this game. sure if you want a bit of craic blow off a small percentage - but any rational mind should be able to pull the plug.

Goodluck2me

i bet roland doesnt feel too stupid with an extra 100K or so in the account this mornign, im with roundtower on this one.

Also Halibut2 is a first cousin of Kaizer Soze, hasnt been seen at a live game since the release of the film "the Usual Suspects" lurks mainly online now...

digiman

RoundTower wrote:

lol at these posts. You're only a fool if you lose, right?

That makes no sense, your basically still a fool if you are in this same situation and win. You are just lucky that you have made money and unlucky if you blow your whole bankroll but stupid to play this either way imo. Im sure as you know over a long period of time you should only be losing money in rake as you are never going to win money on this in the long term.
The only long term winner here is Full Tilt who are making rake, all be it very small but still a consistent winner. It goes against the whole point of playing poker professionaly imo.

phantom_lord

meh, if you had oodles of cash and the means to make more easily why not do this for kicks, it's gonna be ev neutral in the long run.

RoundTower

digiman wrote:

That makes no sense, your basically still a fool if you are in this same situation and win.

digiman up above you wonder whether the players had "a nice even split on the donk". How is this not suggesting that the guy who lost is the donk and the other guys were just beneficiaries of his idiocy?

You're not losing any more money here than playing blind omaha for $5 a go, the variance is just higher.

BigCityBanker

goodluck2me wrote:

i bet roland doesnt feel too stupid with an extra 100K or so in the account this mornign, im with roundtower on this one....

Im sure Roland has a far more liquid role than Grimstar and was not putting as large a % of it at stake. What if somebody sufficiently rolled for 1/2 put half of it in play at 10/20? They are a fool for exposing their bankroll surely? But to sit and knowlingly let it dwindle without any edge until you blow 50% of it then you are easily classifiable in the "fool" category.

goodluck2me wrote:

Also Halibut2 is a first cousin of Kaizer Soze, hasnt been seen at a live game since the release of the film "the Usual Suspects" lurks mainly online now...

Told you guys already - he is The Stig.

digiman

RoundTower wrote:

digiman up above you wonder whether the players had "a nice even split on the donk". How is this not suggesting that the guy who lost is the donk and the other guys were just beneficiaries of his idiocy?

I'm not a 100% sure what you mean here roundtower and you have put my sentence into a slightly different context. What i actually meant was that did Wolfe take most of his money? Or was its just like an average thing and the different people who sat in took some of his money and then when they felt they had enough just left which means that he doesnt have the opportunity to win it back again if you know what I mean?

phantom_lord

for the most part it was the same 3/4 doing it for 2/3 hours.

phantom_lord

BigCityBanker wrote:

no this is not right - you are a fool if you are willing to gamble half your bankroll in this game. sure if you want a bit of craic blow off a small percentage - but any rational mind should be able to pull the plug.

he didn't gambool half his roll though, he lost half of what he has online through doing flips and running bad.

i'd imagine he has lots more offline, it may even only be half his ft roll he lost.

just pointing out he's not busto cause of blind omaha! just a little silly..

BigCityBanker

my understanding from his post on another forum was that he had lost half his roll. maybe i have misread it.

RoundTower

BigCityBanker wrote:

Im sure Roland has a far more liquid role than Grimstar and was not putting as large a % of it at stake.

why? Roland as I understand it plays live tourneys, Grimmstarr plays some of the biggest cash games on the internet. Anyway it's not as if he put half his bankroll on the line at any time, he only ever had 4k at risk and you have to take each decision on its own merits.

Anyway I'm not saying coinflipping for 4k is a good idea, but it's a lot better than most forms of gambling.

phantom_lord

BigCityBanker wrote:

my understanding from his post on another forum was that he had lost half his roll. maybe i have misread it.

maybe your right, he said half his roll/and half his online roll, it was he him looking to swap ps for ft money that opened up the possibility it was just his ft roll.

anyway big deal...I don't think anyone's gonna loose sleep over that degenerate!

cardshark202

I almost wish I had 300k which I could blow via blind plo.

kpnuts

phantom_lord wrote:

ronald de wolfe took a heft chunk, can't remember who else was on the table.

Blind all-in flips probably represent Roly's most +ve EV game. Word on the street is he lost $1.2 million online in 2006!

BigCityBanker

kpnuts wrote:

Blind all-in flips probably represent Roly's most +ve EV game. Word on the street is he lost $1.2 million online in 2006!

I recall watching him play 10/20 PLO and he played like an uber fish - i put it down to tilt. Maybe not.

phantom_lord

kpnuts wrote:

Blind all-in flips probably represent Roly's most +ve EV game. Word on the street is he lost $1.2 million online in 2006!

tourny donk, pure and simple!

MrPillowTalk

phantom_lord wrote:

tourny donk, pure and simple!

not quite that simple.

he can be a bit of a knob but there is undoubted talent there.