The Return of the Andy Black Blowup

gilmour

Full Tilt Poker Game #1746050322: Table Kennedy (6 max) - $50/$100 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:04:46 ET - 2007/02/06
Seat 1: ninestabs ($9,644)
Seat 2: Grimstarr ($8,800)
Seat 3: Andrew Black ($53,556)
Seat 4: Roland de Wolfe ($35,372)
Seat 5: Mike Matusow ($21,338.50)
Seat 6: FELTOR ($9,947)
Mike Matusow posts the small blind of $50
FELTOR posts the big blind of $100
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
ninestabs raises to $300
Grimstarr adds $1,200
Grimstarr folds
Andrew Black calls $300
Roland de Wolfe calls $300
Mike Matusow folds
FELTOR folds
*** FLOP *** [6c Kd 7h]
ninestabs bets $750
Andrew Black calls $750
Roland de Wolfe raises to $3,200
ninestabs has 15 seconds left to act
ninestabs folds
Andrew Black raises to $9,300
Roland de Wolfe has 15 seconds left to act
Roland de Wolfe raises to $20,400
Andrew Black raises to $53,256, and is all in
Roland de Wolfe calls $14,672, and is all in
Andrew Black shows [8s 7s]
Roland de Wolfe shows [Kc 7c]
Uncalled bet of $18,184 returned to Andrew Black
*** TURN *** [6c Kd 7h] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [6c Kd 7h Th] [Js]
Andrew Black shows a pair of Sevens
Roland de Wolfe shows two pair, Kings and Sevens
Roland de Wolfe wins the pot ($71,941) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $71,944 | Rake $3
Board: [6c Kd 7h Th Js]
Seat 1: ninestabs folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Grimstarr didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Andrew Black showed [8s 7s] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: Roland de Wolfe (button) showed [Kc 7c] and won ($71,941) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 5: Mike Matusow (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: FELTOR (big blind) folded before the Flop
Mike Matusow: the andrew black blow up



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valor

lolz

Jimmy Hoffa

Andy not the best at cash games better tourney player me thinks, hard to know when we dont know what went on before at that table.But it looks reckless but at that level short handed u need to be super aggressive.

gilmour

i watched the table for about 45 minutes before the hand happened, Andy was playing like a rock then BOOM out of nowhere this happens. Roland wasnt even doing anything weird before the hand either, just straight forward poker. Andys head just exploded i think.

Even Matusow was speechless, then he and Roland were actually trying to cheer Andy up. Andys quote was "Trying to keep you on your toes Mikey"

Jimmy Hoffa

More meditation needed maybe?It was probably all profit anyhow.Back to the monasatery in a heap now?

phantom_lord

i watched him on and off today, he seemed to be playing pretty passively.

here i guess he thought wolfe would give him credit for a set.

Bandana boy

Some interesting strange bet sizing there ?
It certainly looks like Roland has pot committed himself with his 11K 2nd reraise although he is leaving circa 14K behind
I am not sure i have ever seen anybody after 4 betting 60% of there stack on the flop fold though so interesting time to make a move

bops

I think there is a very fine line between a brilliant bluff and a donkey play - I suppose he was just unlucky that Roland was so strong.
It appears that he had waited a long time for this opportunity - just bad timing.

With reference to Roland being pot committed, this is definately not the case imo - i've seen folds for a hell of a lot less.

ul Andy

Bandana boy

bops wrote:

I think there is a very fine line between a brilliant bluff and a donkey play - I suppose he was just unlucky that Roland was so strong.
It appears that he had waited a long time for this opportunity - just bad timing.

With reference to Roland being pot committed, this is definately not the case imo - i've seen folds for a hell of a lot less.

ul Andy

interesting
you have seen people re-raise twice greater than 60% of there stack and fold on the flop
I havent

ianmc38

valor wrote:

lolz

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bops

Bandana boy wrote:

interesting
you have seen people re-raise twice greater than 60% of their stack and fold on the flop
I havent

If Roland believed that he was behind, say he was making a play with K rag, most certainly he would fold and salvage the 40% No??

...and yes i have seen the likes of clubber on tribecca 20/40 doing the above, putting in 80% + of his stack and folding to a RRAI...many times - trying big moves with no hand/no draw and folding 20k pots for 2k more OTF in the knowledge that they are beat.

There is a lot more to poker at this level than simple pot odds.

Maybe i'm just grumpy because i believe Andy is the best poker player to come out of Ireland IMO, it just bugs me when something goes wrong for the likes of him, there always appears to be a queue waiting to jump on his back.

gilmour

i didnt post the thread to jump on his back, i love to see the man doing well. But surely Andy should have got out after Rolands second reraise? It seemed like a really tired, super quick move by Andy that had no real thought behind it, a momentary lapse of reason if you like

Oh and according to the highstakes.nu railbirds Andy was down 50k before the hand in question and had his entire FT roll on the table

Bandana boy

bops wrote:

it just bugs me when something goes wrong for the likes of him, there always appears to be a queue waiting to jump on his back.

I dont think i am jumping on his back
I just have never seen this bluff get a laydown and believe me i have tried it several times :eek:

ShoveAllIn

gilmour wrote:

Mike Matusow: the andrew black blow up



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Was railing Mike a few weeks ago. Might even have been last week. 3rd Possible according the highstakes.hu

He got well cleaned out. I think Dustin Dirksen did the most damage. He went down about 35+ on one table and 25 on another.
There was also some fellow who sat down with the min and left with about 42G!!

MrPillowTalk

bops wrote:

If Roland believed that he was behind, say he was making a play with K rag, most certainly he would fold and salvage the 40% No??

...and yes i have seen the likes of clubber on tribecca 20/40 doing the above, putting in 80% + of his stack and folding to a RRAI...many times - trying big moves with no hand/no draw and folding 20k pots for 2k more OTF in the knowledge that they are beat.

Bops Ive played hundreds of hours with clubber and dont think ive ever seen him do this.

bops

MrPillowTalk wrote:

Bops Ive played hundreds of hours with clubber and dont think ive ever seen him do this.

of course you are right and i'm wrong - what ever was i thinkin??

MrPillowTalk

bops wrote:

of course you are right and i'm wrong - what ever was i thinkin??

Lol, show me a hand history of him ever doing it, Im not saying your wrong just that from my experience it wouldnt happen.