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Butchered hand on sick board

  • 03-02-2007 9:41pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭


    Holdem No Limit - $1 BB

    SB ($100.25)
    BB ($138)
    UTG ($81)
    CO ($74)
    Button ($115.75) [phantom_lord]

    phantom_lord is Button with Ac, Ah
    Preflop: (5 players, $1.5)
    2 folds, phantom_lord calls $1 and raises $4, SB folds, BB calls $4 and raises $10, phantom_lord calls $10 and raises $25, BB calls $25

    Flop: 9d, Kd, 5s (2 players, $80.5)
    BB bets $16, phantom_lord calls $16

    Turn: Td (2 players, $112.5)
    BB bets $16, phantom_lord calls $16

    River: 6d (2 players, $144.5)
    BB bets $66 and is All-In,


    muppet 50/3/.64 over 87


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    fold. I did make a call like this once before for all my money and it held up but that was stupid, i was stupid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    i dunno what to do in this hand, I've been doing plenty of stealing so he could be playing back with crap, but he's called the reraise. normally you see qq/kk/aa here. so while he's bet weak on the flop I can't really come over the top can I? he folds everything I beat, and calls with kkk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    RasTa wrote:
    fold. I did make a call like this once before for all my money and it held up but that was stupid, i was stupid!
    I don't think i can call on the flop and turn and fold the river, especially given the price I'm getting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭ullu


    Why didn't you raise on the flop?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    push the turn


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    valor wrote:
    push the turn
    yeah i should have, on the flop i was worried he might have top set (ridiculous bet if he did tho), but his turn bet makes it pretty clear he doesn't.

    hate how i played this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Still not beating much with all the action pre-flop and the board. What you honestly put him on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    RasTa wrote:
    Still not beating much with all the action pre-flop and the board. What you honestly put him on?
    a weakish king i guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    He wouldn't fold AK if he is as big a muppet as stats suggest. Actually he may call with queens if he is really bad and his AF of .64 definately suggests he is a calling station. So I don't think coming over top if he is really a bad play. His turn bet is just being asked for a raise. As for river, your getting over 3-1, it's marginal but probably veering on side of folding mainly as his af is low so him betting out all 3 streets suggests a bit of strength.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    cooker3 wrote:
    He wouldn't fold AK if he is as big a mupper as stats suggest. Actually he may call with queens if he is really bad and his AF of .64 definately suggests he is a calling station. So I don't think coming over top if he is really a bad play. His turn bet is just being asked for a raise. As for river, your getting over 3-1, it's marginal but probably veering on side of folding mainly as his af is low so him betting out all 3 streets suggests a bit of strength.
    He's shown very little strength really. 7/2, I think it's a definite call really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    He's shown very little strength really. 7/2, I think it's a definite call really.

    Well he has betted all 3 streets and called a 3 bet pre-flop but his turn bet is not exactly strong a bet without doubt. Has he shown an ability to bluff 3 streets, do you think is even bluffing, or would he "value bet" AK here. What do you think he has?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭accensi0n


    i push the flop.

    anything wrong with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza



    Flop: 9d, Kd, 5s (2 players, $80.5)
    BB bets $16, phantom_lord calls $16

    Turn: Td (2 players, $112.5)
    BB bets $16, phantom_lord calls $16
    What's up with your play on these streets when the pot is so big?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Marq


    I can't understand how you didn't raise on the flop or turn.
    You seem to have played the hand to induce him to continue bluffing, so the river is a call.

    Jam the turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Rivers such an easy fold. We literally beat nothing especially against someone with post flop aggro factor of .64


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    lafortezza wrote:
    What's up with your play on these streets when the pot is so big?
    it's just plain awful :)



    yeah he had kojak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    accensi0n wrote:
    i push the flop.

    anything wrong with that?
    usually he has qq/kk here, he folds qq and calls with kk.

    if he'd bet the flop hard i probably woulda folded.


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