odd turn spot

phantom_lord

Holdem No Limit - $1 BB

SB ($191.50)
BB ($153.50)
UTG ($62.76)
MP ($117.50)
CO ($63.97)
Button ($248.50) [phantom_lord]

phantom_lord is Button with 7c, 7d
Preflop: (6 players, $1.5)
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, phantom_lord calls $1 and raises $3, SB calls $3.50, BB folds, UTG calls $3

Flop: 6h, 3d, 8h (3 players, $13)
SB checks, UTG checks, phantom_lord bets $7, SB calls $7, UTG calls $7

Turn: 7s (3 players, $34)
SB checks, UTG checks, phantom_lord bets $20, SB calls $20 and raises $40, UTG folds, phantom_lord calls $40

River: 9c (2 players, $154)
SB bets $120.50 and is All-In, phantom_lord folds

Results: phantom_lord has 7c, 7d


other guy is an unknown, 20/17/4.3 over 117.

anyone check behind on the turn?

call/fold/shove turn?

rest of the hand is in white.

ianmc38

I'd raise more preflop and probably 3-bet the turn.

Goodluck2me

i never check nehind here, you have to give people the benefit of doubt in not shooting for a gutshot.9hTh though could be likely but surely they would raise flop.

Killme00

I would bet more on the flop. You played it well..lucky river for you...it made you lay it down...i think you were behind on the turn

phantom_lord

Killme00 wrote:

I would bet more on the flop. You played it well..lucky river for you...it made you lay it down...i think you were behind on the turn

yeah I usually bet more on the flop, I think I probably would have layed it down without the board pairing on the river, was pretty sure I was behind, but I'd get his stack with a house.

Marq

What does UTG do after the raise on the turn?

Marq

I would bet more on the flop, probably 9 or 10. I'd also make it 5 preflop.
As played I would flat call. Hopefully he'll stack off on the river if you fill up. If you don't then I play the river cautiously.

valor

I would check the flop

turn is fine as is river fold

phantom_lord

Marq wrote:

What does UTG do after the raise on the turn?

folds, results are in white.

Goodluck2me

Marq wrote:

I'd also make it 5 preflop.

why so much preflop? thats 5 BB.

Marq

goodluck2me wrote:

why so much preflop? thats 5 BB.

there's a limper.
and I like the pot to be bigger when I'm position with a good hand.

phantom_lord

goodluck2me wrote:

why so much preflop? thats 5 BB.

4/5bbs is standard.

Marq

actually the more i think about this hand the more I think you should either call the river bet or threebet the turn. the river has changed nothing, and I don't think he needs a straight to c/r you on the turn given the relative weakness of your bet on the river. he could easily have made two pair.

phantom_lord

Marq wrote:

actually the more i think about this hand the more I think you should either call the river bet or threebet the turn. the river has changed nothing, and I don't think he needs a straight to c/r you on the turn given the relative weakness of your bet on the river. he could easily have made two pair.

yeah I was thinking that, the turn may enough be a c/r bluff. And he's not gonna fear me having a straight on the river. was fairly close to calling the river but didn't.

cardshark202

I really think you should three bet the turn almost everytime. However, since you didn't, river fold is fine.

RoundTower

4.3 is super aggressive for NL, right? Just raise the turn, probably all in. Bet more on flop and turn, I would probably have gone 10 and as played 25.

spectre

I would certainly 3 bet the turn.

Not sure if I fold river though, he raised the turn but it's unlikely for him to have 9T unless he has precisely 9Th. 67/78 are more likely. He may also have A7h or A9h. I think if he has the straight it's more likely to be ATh/9Th.

Also he is quite aggressive which makes his river push less credible.