Live Cash QQ hand

tribulus

Okay this was only a .10/.20 cash game but the villain in the hand is a good player and a guy I know well so bare with me!

Villain is a good player, I've played with him many times (mainly tournaments) so we both have a good idea of how each other plays.

He can be aggressive in the right spots, picking up on weakness but can also lay down a hand if needs be.

One thing I consider a flaw in his cash game is that he overvalues small/smallish pocket pairs and suited connectors, often calling raises for the implied odds, particularly in the game in question where open raising to 10-15x preflop is not uncommon and trying to draw cheaply is not going to happen much.

Table is 6 or 7 handed when this hand occurred.
Stacks: Hero, 22E, villain covers

Anyway, there's a blind straddle to .50 UTG(it's that type of game!), one fold and I raise to 2.50 with QQ(no spades)

Surprisingly it's folded around to the villain UTG who calls

Pot 5E
Flop 5s 6s 7c

Villain bets 2E, I call

Pot 9E
Turn a 2 of spades

Villain bets 5E.....I shove

Villain very rarely has a flush here. I've played with him quite a bit and I can't remember seeing him lead out for a decent amount in this situation.
He's check/called, check/raised and even checked again on the river on occasion to induce a bluff, I can't see him playing a flush this way.

On hindsight I think I played this poorly, there's quite a few hands in his range given my description of him that beats me.

Is there any chance of a flat call here? Leaving 12E behind into a 19E pot could easily leave me calling off my stack to any reasonable river bet. What if the river's another spade, an ace, a 4 or 8 etc. Can I fold to a small value bet of 8?

Basically what line should I have taken? He knew I had a big hand and at best could have had me on a missed AQ or something, should I just fold here.

Slash/ED

That's not quite how the hand went, the board is wrong anyway, I can't remember it exactly but it wasn't that. Also I think the straddle was a euro...god knows it was that kind of game alright. We actually ended up doubling the blinds later. I had 60+ at one stage, and lost most of it when i bet the pot with pocket kings on the turn and he rivered a gutshot with something like 4/5, it was certainly that kind of game

Also, the villian in question had the perfectly correct implied odds to call with pocket 3's earlier in the session which annoyed you so much

EDIT - Sorry I misread the board there it is indeed correct

phantom_lord

Leaving 12E behind into a 19E pot could easily leave me calling off my stack to any reasonable river bet

so pushing here is better?

you don't really get any hands that beat you to fold, and wont get value from hands that you are ahead of.


if you're gonna have a staddle have a decent one ffs not 2.5bbs....

tribulus

Straddle was definately .50, i wasn't raising by 2.5x!

Board was also 567 if you remember your hand

Phantom_Lord: Yeah I agree my thinking was off and i didn't play it well, what's your line for the hand?

Slash/ED

Yeah that was the board.

And if you think he played it badly....:p

phantom_lord

I dunno, I'd probably fold the turn, especially since you've no spade.

Villain's taking a strong line considering the board, and if small pairs and scs are a large part of his range, it's quite likely he has 34 or 89, 2 pair/ a set/beting his flush draw.

you're really hoping he has an op here, but I don't think he's playing an op like that, except maybe 88.

careca

I would have raised the flop. He bets two. If you make it 5/6, then you can get away from the hand if he comes over the top. It also means you're not giving him a free card in case his bet is a blocker with a flush draw. Might sound a bit sheepish, but at least you'll know where you stand. Also as phantom say, shoving on the turn is bad as you will only be called by hands that are beating you.

the other point, that you made yourself, is that the flop is most definetly in his range and still you shove your stack in.