English - Your Favourite Poet?

md99

Who is your favourite poet from this years syllabus?

The list (from what I remember) is:

John Donne
John Montague
Elizabeth Bishop
Sylvia Plath
Patrick Kavanagh
W.B. Yeats
Robert Frost
T.S. Eliot

For me, it has to be Montague, who is tipped to come up this year as it's his last on the course. I also loved Yeats...

As regards Plath being a ringer for this years paper, think again. She came up in 03 AND in 04 - do you not think people sitting the 04 paper made the same bet about Bishop? Not to mention that Bishop has come up two years consecutively in the last several years more than once.

That said though, studying both would be a pretty safe bet for success....

Steve01

I can't comment on most of them since we basically just started the poetry course yesterday. Got a bit done on Plath and Kavanagh last year, but not much since we had a new teacher every week.
In answer to your question I like Yeats poetry but I think Kavanagh is the easiest to write about.

the evil lime

I loved Yeats myself. Only male poet I studied for my leaving, and he came up.

1huge1

gotta be slyvia plath, the one I can understand the best for some reason though ive got a good idea of John Donne now that im able to understand him better

fonpokno

we havent done yeats yet but other than that montague's the best, hands down! kavanagh wrecks my head for some reason...

ursulasblues

Plath and Yeats have to be there for me!! Montague not too bad but a tad boring....for our mocks Plath and Yeats will be there so fingers crossed the LC follows through.

delta_bravo

Steve01 wrote:

I can't comment on most of them since we basically just started the poetry course yesterday. Got a bit done on Plath and Kavanagh last year, but not much since we had a new teacher every week.
In answer to your question I like Yeats poetry but I think Kavanagh is the easiest to write about.

eh, what! Poetry is a massive part of the course ableit not as high marking but is very important. You will be lucky to get 4 poets done by june in school if youve only started now

AdMMM

We're finishing our poetry course this week (with Elliot) making our list of studied poets looks like this:

Montague
Plath
Kavanagh
T.S Elliot
Plath
Bishop
Frost

That's also my list of preference as well. I find Montague so easy to write about and I actually enjoy reading his poetry. Apparently T.S Elliot is a heavily tipped to come up, moreso than Montague anyway.

bluto63

I like Kavanagh the best. We've only just started Donne but I think he's good aswell.

I don't know why, but I just don't like Yeats' poetry.

Steve01

delta_bravo wrote:

eh, what! Poetry is a massive part of the course ableit not as high marking but is very important. You will be lucky to get 4 poets done by june in school if youve only started now

Yeah I'm screwed. People in my class who are well capable of honours have dropped back to pass because of it. Also because they're opting for the easy life but thats their decision.
We finished Yeats today so at least we're picking up some bit of speed. Himself and Montague are my fave poets as it stands. Sailing to Byzantium is one of my fave poems on the course

JC 2K3

We haven't done Yeats, but he seems really boring so I don't care.

Kavanagh's my favourite. I love his abstract take on life, despite his rural perspective. "Gods make their own importance" has to be one of the most inspiring and simply kickass lines I've ever heard. I love "Epic".

Bishop I really liked too, she was pretty groundbreaking, I love her imagery and intricate detail in everything. Poems like "The Fish" and "The Bight" are amazing, descriptive accounts of static scenes. I don't like "The Prodigal" very much though.

We just started TS Eliot, and despite me forgetting my book and only half paying attention I think that J.A.P. could be worthy of being something that I'd love. I shall see, however.

md99

JC 2K3 wrote:

We haven't done Yeats, but he seems really boring so I don't care.

Kavanagh's my favourite. I love his abstract take on life, despite his rural perspective. "Gods make their own importance" has to be one of the most inspiring and simply kickass lines I've ever heard. I love "Epic".

Bishop I really liked too, she was pretty groundbreaking, I love her imagery and intricate detail in everything. Poems like "The Fish" and "The Bight" are amazing, descriptive accounts of static scenes. I don't like "The Prodigal" very much though.

My favourite poem. It was so emotional and dark...

I disliked "The Fish" .... kinda drab, giving-human-life fare, and all this 'Until everything was rainbow, rainbow, rainbow!' ****....arghhh CHEESE

People should not consider Plath a definite this year as Bishop came up last year. It's pretty much 50:50 exactly on either of the two - despite Bishop coming up in the 06 paper. She has come up two years in a row before, and relatively recently too.

JC 2K3

md99 wrote:

My favourite poem. It was so emotional and dark...

I disliked "The Fish" .... kinda drab, giving-human-life fare, and all this 'Until everything was rainbow, rainbow, rainbow!' ****....arghhh CHEESE

Meh, it wasn't a bad poem at all, it just didn't fit with the other poems by Bishop I studied.

The Bight was better, but I did really like The Fish. I think I viewed both as psychedelic and/or abstract transience/analytical thinking. I couldn't have cared less about her compassion for the fish in "The Fish", it was simply the imaginative detail and thought.

Marshy

I hate poetry!!!!!! It wrecks me buzz. But like Plath my life is a spiralling abyss. Why didnt she do us all a favour and kill herself quicker.:eek:

delta_bravo

Marshy wrote:

I hate poetry!!!!!! It wrecks me buzz. But like Plath my life is a spiralling abyss. Why didnt she do us all a favour and kill herself quicker.:eek:

Well that mightve of wrecked her buzz. moron

Marshy

Yeah well seeing as shes dead now that doesnt matter. TRAMP:eek:

Insect Overlord

Tough choice. I really liked bits and pieces from all the poets. Kavanagh's "Raglan Road" and "Inniskeen Road", Frost's "Aquainted With the Night" and "Design", most of Plath's poems, "The Same Gesture" by Montague and "Politics" by Yeats would be my favourites. Overall, I'd probably have to pick Plath as my favouite. Amazing technique, even if she depressed the hell out of me.

Nehpets

Yeats and Bishop for me We haven't finished Yeats yet.. I think

I don't like Plath at all, we've done The Arrival of the Bee Box, Child, Finisterre, Mirror, The Times are Tidy and Pheasant

Didn't really like pheasant or mirror. The others were good I suppose

genericgoon

yeats personally mainly cause i get to write about history with 1913 an 1916 poems

md99

Marshy wrote:

I hate poetry!!!!!! It wrecks me buzz. But like Plath my life is a spiralling abyss. Why didnt she do us all a favour and kill herself quicker.:eek:

Your use of capitals to start a sentence surprises me!

Marshy

Really, why is that now? Do I sense a note of condescension

Haven't a Clue

genericgoon wrote:

yeats personally mainly cause i get to write about history with 1913 an 1916 poems

Yeah, yer spot on there. 'September 1913' and 'Easter 1916', especially the latter are also handy for history essay quotes.

schwaaaaa

Marshy wrote:

Really, why is that now? Do I sense a note of condescension

Why are you so angry? let it go, ur anger saddens me inside

ZorbaTehZ

Marshy wrote:

I hate poetry!!!!!! It wrecks me buzz. But like Plath my life is a spiralling abyss. Why didnt she do us all a favour and kill herself quicker.:eek:

AHHH, Emo in the thread, someone squish it quick !!

Ontopic, Yeats, Kavanagh, Elliot and Frost (loved "Mending Wall") probably for me of the poets on the course . I love the poetry of Edgar Allen Poe though; would have been wicked if he had been on the LC.

Marshy

Emo? Do you really think so? I suppose I'd rather be that than be intrigued by some two bit american who wrote about ravens.
AHHH, Simpleton in the thread:eek:

md99

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

AHHH, Emo in the thread, someone squish it quick !!

I'd have gone with chav, scobe, whatever you call them in your area.

JBoyle4eva

I particularly like Frost and Kavanagh, the other 3 I studied were very dull indeed("AHEM" John Donne). Frost's poetry is very simple where as Kavanagh's poetry is very entertaining and enjoyable.

Really don't like Yeats because I didn't do history and his poetry can be very political, Plath's just a depressed woman who you feel sorry for and Donne, well anyone who's studied him knows what I'd say.

ZorbaTehZ

Marshy wrote:

Emo? Do you really think so? I suppose I'd rather be that than be intrigued by some two bit american who wrote about ravens.
AHHH, Simpleton in the thread:eek:

The fact that you're still here says a lot though, doesn't it?

Marshy

Well if I'm upsetting you just say so

delta_bravo

Marshy wrote:

Well if I'm upsetting you just say so

You're quite the sh*t stirrer, aren't you marshy?

md99

delta_bravo wrote:

You're quite the sh*t stirrer, aren't you marshy?

Ah, we're just as bad for responding.

cotwold

delta_bravo wrote:

You're quite the sh*t stirrer, aren't you marshy?

Sh*t stirrer? I don't think so, just because someone chose to actually share an opinion contrary to the rest of you drones they automaticaly qualify as a "sh*t stirrer". Get a life, or take a page out of Plath's poetry and stick your head in an oven.

Thomas_S_Hunterson

cotwold wrote:

Sh*t stirrer? I don't think so, just because someone chose to actually share an opinion contrary to the rest of you drones they automaticaly qualify as a "sh*t stirrer". Get a life, or take a page out of Plath's poetry and stick your head in an oven.

OMG how could you be so insensitive:eek:

md99

cotwold wrote:

Sh*t stirrer? I don't think so, just because someone chose to actually share an opinion contrary to the rest of you drones they automaticaly qualify as a "sh*t stirrer". Get a life, or take a page out of Plath's poetry and stick your head in an oven.

You blame us for being one-sided, yet you've fallen into just the same hole.

The principal reason Marshy's comments attracted so much criticism was the manor in which he expressed his views on Plath. Nothing wrong with disliking her poetry, despising it even - there are plenty out there who do.

"I hate poetry!!!!!! It wrecks me buzz. But like Plath my life is a spiralling abyss. Why didnt she do us all a favour and kill herself quicker."

Does this not look like fuel for controversy to you? I doubt it was ever intended to be taken too seriously....

Thomas_S_Hunterson

md99 wrote:

Does this not look like fuel for controversy to you? I doubt it was ever intended to be taken too seriously....

Perhaps it was a joke.

Don't get too worked up about it

Marshy

I mean come on, lets face it, Montague and John 'tumbleweed' Donne aside the poetry course is a freak show. Its manic depressives galore(bishop, frost and sylvia plath of course). In bishops case her only friends were Johnnie Walker and Jack Daniels. I could almost add Yeats to the list he was so aloof.

ethernet

Frost is reason enough to revise the poetry on the course.

Keep Plath away!

delta_bravo

cotwold wrote:

Sh*t stirrer? I don't think so, just because someone chose to actually share an opinion contrary to the rest of you drones they automaticaly qualify as a "sh*t stirrer". Get a life, or take a page out of Plath's poetry and stick your head in an oven.

He hardly had an opinion. It was more of a statement that he hoped plath had died sooner. and also the fact that marshy followed up on other comments i had made in the ucd forum which were pointless i believe marshy is a sh*t stirrer. marshy's comments were pointless in the following thread and posted for provocation

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055049082
comment # 11,12,15-17

md99

Marshy wrote:

I mean come on, lets face it, Montague and John 'tumbleweed' Donne aside the poetry course is a freak show. Its manic depressives galore(bishop, frost and sylvia plath of course). In bishops case her only friends were Johnnie Walker and Jack Daniels. I could almost add Yeats to the list he was so aloof.

Of course, just put your opinion in an envelope and send it to the Dept. of Education, they'll surely revamp the English LC poetry course knowing that such an aspiring, outspoken individual like yourself is in disagreement!

Good people, ignore this tyrant! Your battle ends HERE unless you'd like to continue it by responding more to his comments.

delta_bravo

md99 wrote:

Good people, ignore this tyrant! Your battle ends HERE unless you'd like to continue it by responding more to his comments.

Never was a truer word spoken:)

JC 2K3

ethernet wrote:

Frost is reason enough to revise the poetry on the course.

Keep Plath away!

I hate Frost, not only is he boring, but his open rejection of ornate language and intellectual elitism písses me off. Personally I'd rather listen to Mars Volta's complex, incoherent, self indulgent lyrics than read Frost's simple "working man" poetry.

"The ocean floor is hidden from the viewing lense,
A depth perception languished in the night,
All my life I've been sewing the wounds,
But the seeds sprout a lachrymal cloud"

FÚCK YEAH!

md99

JC 2K3 wrote:

I hate Frost, not only is he boring, but his open rejection of ornate language and intellectual elitism písses me off. Personally I'd rather listen to Mars Volta's complex, incoherent, self indulgent lyrics than read Frost's simple "working man" poetry.

"The ocean floor is hidden from the viewing lense,
A depth perception languished in the night,
All my life I've been sewing the wounds,
But the seeds sprout a lachrymal cloud"

FÚCK YEAH!

I'm on the same boat, pretty much. Easy to revise but boring... I like some of the ideas he raises, though, and the ending of "Out, Out" is one of my favourite lines of any poem

"And they, since they were not the one dead, Turned to their affairs"

Somewhat relevant to real life if you ask me!

JackKelly

Good people, ignore this tyrant! Your battle ends HERE unless you'd like to continue it by responding more to his comments.

Nicely put.Lets keep on topic please and thanks.

terry mac

JC 2K3 wrote:

I hate Frost, not only is he boring, but his open rejection of ornate language and intellectual elitism písses me off. Personally I'd rather listen to Mars Volta's complex, incoherent, self indulgent lyrics than read Frost's simple "working man" poetry

I've never heard Frost been called boring. Poetry isn't exactly riveting stuff, but at least this man puts a bit of a story into some of his, a bit of tension, bit of excitement.

md99

terry mac wrote:

Poetry isn't exactly riveting stuff

For you maybe.

Marshy

delta_bravo wrote:

Never was a truer word spoken:)

Why dont you two get a room?
Anyway in the words of Bill O'Herlihy, "I'll leave it there so," before I get more of you bedwetters on my case.
Au revoir:eek:

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Marshy wrote:

Why dont you two get a room?
Anyway in the words of Bill O'Herlihy, "I'll leave it there so," before I get more of you bedwetters on my case.
Au revoir:eek:

;)Kudos

ethernet

JC 2K3 wrote:

I hate Frost, not only is he boring, but his open rejection of ornate language and intellectual elitism písses me off. Personally I'd rather listen to Mars Volta's complex, incoherent, self indulgent lyrics than read Frost's simple "working man" poetry.

"The ocean floor is hidden from the viewing lense,
A depth perception languished in the night,
All my life I've been sewing the wounds,
But the seeds sprout a lachrymal cloud"

FÚCK YEAH!

That's a fair point -- I also appreciate and acknowledge the use of "ornate language and intellectual elitism", as you so call it.

However, I believe that more people can relate to Frost in his use of simple English; especially people of our own age-group who wouldn't otherwise have any appreciation for poetry at all for the sole reason of not being in a position to comprehend it or even relate to it.

schwaaaaa

cotwold wrote:

Sh*t stirrer? I don't think so, just because someone chose to actually share an opinion contrary to the rest of you drones they automaticaly qualify as a "sh*t stirrer". Get a life, or take a page out of Plath's poetry and stick your head in an oven.

Is that how she finally did herself in?????????

cotwold

schwaaaaa wrote:

Is that how she finally did herself in?????????

Yeah, although they dont teach THAT in school. Tá sí saor!!!!!!

schwaaaaa

Ta si saor!!!!!!!!! ta mo leanbh saor