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Female-fronted metal bands

  • 21-01-2007 10:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭


    OK, one of the pervasive things about metal recently, for better or worse, are female fronted metal bands. Everyone's got their favourites, for whatever reason, from the mixing quality to the hotness of the lead singer, which one's yours? And why?

    I'd have to swing towards Lacuna Coil, they're highly original although they do overplay the female-fronted bit a bit much, even though she is damn hot :)

    Which is your favourite female-fronted band? 103 votes

    Nightwish
    0% 0 votes
    Lacuna Coil
    25% 26 votes
    Within Temptation
    19% 20 votes
    Evanescence
    5% 6 votes
    Tristania
    22% 23 votes
    Arch Enemy
    0% 1 vote
    Epica
    23% 24 votes
    Theatre of Tregedy
    1% 2 votes
    Leaves Eyes
    0% 1 vote
    Else
    0% 0 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭AsphaltRisin'


    To be fair though if you had a female member as hot as christina scabia would you not use that to it's full advantage?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    Its obvious where my vote goes! There are so many great bands in the genre at the moment, that never get mentioned here or in the UK. Anyway this year will be a good year, seeing as Tristania have just released the brilliant album Illumination, and Within Temptation's album The Heart of Everything will be out in March, and there's a summer release for Nightwish and Epica and Xandria will have their new albums out in the Autumn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    I dunno, I reckon I did a fairly good job of covering the options up there...
    Didn't know there was new Within Temptation coming, only started listening to them recently and very impressed. They're on tour in April too apparantly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    All those bands scrape the bottom of the mediocrity barrel for me. Lacuna Coil were interesting for a short while when they came out but quickly just seemed to start rehashing the same tripe over and over again. All these bands are just Britney Spears for the girl in black. The fact that a band is referred to as being female-fronted is completely backwards, how many times do you hear reference to male-fronted bands? For every interview bands like these make where they say they are opening up metal for women, I die a little. Look at bands like A Perfect Circle, Sonic Youth, Smashing Pumpkins Thorr's Hammer, Electric Wizard, Mars, Bardo Pond, Melvins, Atari Teenage Riot, Acid Mothers Temple, Earth, Swans and Boris. All these bands have or had female members but most people talk about how great the music is and not what chromosomes are present. To define a band as being part of a certain genre because their singer is a woman is insane! To be a woman in metal doesn't require a soapbox or an agenda or to conform to this sub-metal pop opera crap, it means just getting on like anyone else. Sorry for the rant but this subject irks me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    I'd put my vote for "The Sins of thy Beloved" if they were there, superb doom/goth band with great dual vocal work from a male growl and a suprb ambient female singer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    I voted Nightwish, as they're one of the few there who've anything substantial, musicially. Take Christina away, and Lacuna Coil is just nothing. Arch Enemy is another band I could mention that are musicially substantial.

    Other bands I'd like to add to this would be:

    Aghora
    To-Mera

    Again, amazing music, songwriting and technical ability with both bands there, not just bands with female vocalists as a gimmick.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I voted for Arch Enemy in that poll.

    I'm with John on this, saying you've got a "female fronted" band is only a record selling tool. I also agree that I found Lacuna Coil interesting for a while till the whole lot of those bands all blended into a single mish-mash of each other. I recall hearing a Lacuna Coil tune on the telly in a mate's house a few years ago saying "is that more of that Evanescence sh1te?" We then shook our heads at their down-turn when he corrected me about it being LC.

    TBH, the "female fronted" thing is also unbelievably sexist and does LOADS :rolleyes: for the struggle for equality of the sexes (and why am I as a man making that point? lol).

    A couple of days ago, Karl gave me this link and I think I've fallen in LOEV!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭LightofDarkness


    Seconded @ john. I wouldn't call Within Tempation or Evanescence metal either. They have some of the trappings but they lack the soul, they both sound more like misguided goth girl "cry when I play my piano song" bands. Heck, Aborted have a female bass player and there's some Tech Death band whose name escapes me for now that's fronted by a woman, but of course they get no quarter because she's no Scabia or Angela Gossow in the looks department. And Amy Lee, profiting off a recent relationship collapse (Call Me When You're Sober, anyone) is exactly what Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey are doing right now, complete with teary eyed performances. Of course there'll always be a market for this kind of tripe, but don't lump that manure in with the rest of the metal genre, Metallica or Death they ain't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭neGev


    Jo Bench has been bassist in Bolt Thrower for damn near twenty years now, long before this fad arrived. Like John said, if the band are good enough, they'll stand on their merits, not some gimmick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    Pugsley wrote:
    I'd put my vote for "The Sins of thy Beloved" if they were there, superb doom/goth band with great dual vocal work from a male growl and a suprb ambient female singer.

    I would totally agree with you there. The Sins of thy Beloved are amazing, pity nothing's been happening with them for a while.

    With regards to it being "gimmicky" to have girlies front a rock/metal band. The success of Evanescence has helped give Lacuna Coil a thrust into the spotlight. I love old Evanescence, but wouldnt classify them as a metal band. I agree with what was said about the new album - its something I'd expect from the likes of Christina Aguilera. Lacuna Coil, do definately use Cristina Scabbia's good looks to their benefit. Again, I liked their older stuff and not their new album. There are so many bands, who arent as well known, who are so much better than the likes of Evanescence or LC. Tristania are one such band. Each of there albums are totally different, but still brilliant. Sirenia were good, but there demise into mainstream Ev-like pop rock has just come upon them with the god -awful Nine Destinies and a Downfall, due to be released next month. Penumbra, are another band, kinda like old-Sirenia meets The Sins of thy beloved, which rely heavily on death growls, which hardly anyone here has heard of, but are brilliant.

    Within Temptation, may not exactly be metal, with the last 2 albums, but Enter and The Dance albums, undoubtedly are. Most songs feature "beauty and the beast" vocals. Pity they dont do that anymore. The new album is meant to be heavier than Mother Earth and The Silent Force, and I've heard the song The Howling, and its pretty good.

    Don't judge "female fronted metal" because of Evanescence or Lacuna Coil. There are loads of praiseworthy bands, who sound nothing like them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    Probably Arch Enemy. I'd disagree with John about Arch Enemy being defined by "their singer being a woman," although otherwise I feel you're right.

    Also as Hungus points out, Agohra are pretty class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭LivingDeadGirl


    My Ruin or Arch Enemy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Aghora, with Arch Enemy from the list. Quite like Gossow's vocals, though the old stuff with the male vocals is as good, just in a different vein, and I absolutely hate all these pseudo-operatic female-fronted pop-in-black bands, I can't stand the whole thing, heavy guitar riffs with all the life taken out by some vocally twisted cow, I just see no merit in it whatsoever. However, give me Aghora and Arch Enemy and those are two good bands, with soem damn solid musicians to back them up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭Oral Slang


    Hard to choose - I love Epica, Lacuna Coil, Within Temptation & Tristania.. Sinergy are also a great band.

    Saw Therion last night too & while they're not quite female fronted, the 2 female vocalists are amazing, as are the 2 males.. They'd probably come first in that poll if they were mentioned - still in awe here! My jaws were hurting getting the tube to the hotel last night, from grinning so much...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Undergod wrote:
    I'd disagree with John about Arch Enemy being defined by "their singer being a woman," although otherwise I feel you're right.

    I missed them being mentioned in the poll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Agent Steel


    Nightwish? Lacuna Coil? Within Temptation? You pussies!

    Two words: Original Sin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Prezatch


    I really like The Provenance, I suppose they're "female fronted" but they have male vocals too. Swedish progressive metal, turning more into hard rock lately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭slssprite


    Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult - Onielar is quite impressive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Alucard II


    UneXpecT. easily. ****ing awesome band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Nea


    I voted for Lacuna Coil as to my preference in the list although I do prefer their older stuff.

    My favourite would be L7.
    Donita was deadly and would kick the arse off anyone else. Bricks are heavy and Hungry for Stink were great albums.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Stream of Passion.
    Nightwish.
    Old Evanescene.
    Tristania.

    I think a lot of Lacuna coil and Within temptation is pants, pants I say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭mrmojo


    Lacuna Coil are quality. I wouldn't call Evanescence a band so much as one Idea repaeted again and again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    One of Lacuna Coil's ideas repeated again and again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    Hmm... I think yous are wrong about Lacuna Coil. I would argue that Karmacode, their latest album, is their best. While the sound is quite 'retro' its also not a sound that has been done before. It does sound similar to stuff I've heard before but not the same, and there's a lot to be said for that. I do like it. Some of the older stuff, not so good, I don't think that their previous 2 albums had quite the same level of originality.

    I'd also have a fair amount of time for Within Temptation, certainly Mother Earth is an extraordinary album. Eitherway, I'd definitely define both of them as metal - they've got the riffs and grinding guitars, which are exactly what you need to make a band metal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    It's a tough one to pick a favourite for me. It's either Arch Enemy or Nightwish depending on my mood! I think Arch Enemy just shade it so I'll vote for them. With that said though, I quite like most of the bands on that list. I don't like the male grunting vocals on Tristania's songs for some reason. I just find them too much of a contrast from the female vocals. I also wouldn't be too fond of Leaves' Eyes. They're not bad, they just don't grab me.

    I would also recommend the following bands:Sinergy and Xandria


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭Matthewthebig


    THORR'S HAMMER!

    There are no other female fronted bands worth talking about!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    Yeah I agree that Xandria are pretty good (I'm listening to them now). There are so many many brilliant bands. Stream of Passion are one definately worth a mention. Its an Arjen Lucassen band with a female singer. They released their album in late 2005 and its brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Whatever about metal, I really dislike music with a female voice. It's nothing sexist, I just don't like the sound of anything like it. My cd collection is full of all types of metal and rock, and Arch Enemy is the only band with a female vocalist (excluding claire torry on great gig in the sky), and I probably only enjoy listening to them because she doesn't sound female.

    I totally agree with John with what he said. Currently, the only female-fronted band that I would consider buying a CD of is probably The Donnas, and the ain't metal and are still far down the list of my must-buys


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭CyberWaste


    Id say Lacuna Coil, because they have good music and theyre femal singer rules. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    THORR'S HAMMER!

    There are no other female fronted bands worth talking about!

    Not even Khlyst?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 958 ✭✭✭porn_star


    Nightwish? Lacuna Coil? Within Temptation? You pussies!

    ahhh this is what I thought too.. seriously like, and Evanescence. my god. urgh!


    Anyways, I'm a huge fan of women in music(not just metal/rock/whatever) but my vote has to go to My Ruin without a doubt.
    Can't understand how you make a poll for women in metal and someone like evanescence(not even metal!!!!) would be there ahead of a band like My Ruin.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭Matthewthebig


    John wrote:
    Not even Khlyst?
    Hadn't heard of them. And also I should state I meant female fronted metal bands.

    I like far too much riot grrl (:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    It's Runhild Gammelsæter from Thorr's Hammer with James Plotkin and Tim Wyskida from Khanate. Makes Thorr's Hammer sound like Teletubbies!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭Matthewthebig


    I found me a track on youtube.

    Holy freaking sht. I must own


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    I still have soft spot for The Gathering and Astarte actually. :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    Nightwish by far.

    There the only band which the band members are individually outstandingly brilliant! Nightwish are the kind of band that make you think that maybe there's something special within the Finnish drinking water.

    Love 'em!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Out of the bands listed above, Id go for Arch Enemy. But overall id go for Otep, she is some****ing singer aswell as being fairly good at screaming.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    tsk, does nobody remember Doro?
    The best by far!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Oeneus wrote:
    Nightwish by far.
    There the only band which the band members are individually outstandingly brilliant!
    As far as I am aware Tuomas Holopainen writes all the music and lyrics for Nightwish. I agree that they are a fantastic band but I don't think the other members have that much input into the songs.

    Having said that, Marco Hietala has done some excellent work with Sinergy and Tarot. I have never checked out any of their other side projects.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    What I think Oeneus meant was that each member is a talented musician. Tuomas does write all the music/lyrics however he leaves the drumming up to Jukka, and riffs etc to Emppu.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    Nightwish wrote:
    What I think Oeneus meant was that each member is a talented musician. Tuomas does write all the music/lyrics however he leaves the drumming up to Jukka, and riffs etc to Emppu.

    You hit the nail right on the head there. Each one of them is a legend in their own right. You'd have a hard time figuring out which one is your favourite. But I think I'd have to go with Jukka, because he's a party animal! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Talking of party animals, Marco would definitely get my vote as the member of Nightwish I'd most like to go on the lash with :) There was a very funny sequence on one of their older DVDs where a camera was positioned on top of his amp facing towards him. There was a bottle of something on the amp beside and the scene counted how many drinks he took before, during and after they played some song.

    Plus he's got quite an original goatee which should earn him bonus points :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Backtoblack


    Any links to any of the above with music?
    I liked Evanescence but thought they were a bit too commercial (forgive me if I am wrong).. I'd love to get an/some albums though of similar but more industrial/rocky (with a female vocal)?
    (off to bed now but will google list of names tomorrow) ThankQ!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    Well there's Moth Complex from Dublin, who would kinda fit the more industrial description. They supported Lacuna Coil last year in the Olympia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Backtoblack


    Nightwish wrote:
    Well there's Moth Complex from Dublin, who would kinda fit the more industrial description. They supported Lacuna Coil last year in the Olympia.

    Brilliant! I love them!! phraww!
    Would the album be available in most of the bigger music stores in town?

    Will look for lacuna Coil now!
    Tnx! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    Lacuna Coil arent really like Moth Complex. They are kinda like a better, harder version of Evanescence, but have changed lately to a more Korn-like sound with their latest album. On the subject of Moth Complex's album, I havent seen it in any stores, but you can buy it online from their site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    Lacuna coil are starting to sound like Korn?? Korns new stuff or old stuff? I imagine your talking about korns new stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    Well, Korn's guitar sound - the heavy chugging melodies are just very Korn like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭christophicus


    O I see. I just Im halfway throuhg the 3rd song on Moth complex's site And I must say I really like it , the quieter song is far better then the other two songs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Backtoblack


    Nightwish wrote:
    Lacuna Coil arent really like Moth Complex. They are kinda like a better, harder version of Evanescence, but have changed lately to a more Korn-like sound with their latest album. On the subject of Moth Complex's album, I havent seen it in any stores, but you can buy it online from their site.

    I'm having problems with their site - i've tried a number of times to buy the album, but it keeps saying "Your session has timed out, please log in again."
    And this is after 5 seconds!
    I'll try again later though. I really want the album.

    Thanks for the recommendation! ;)


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