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How to use a polarizer in difficult conditions

  • 19-01-2007 12:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭


    You know the days when there is an overcast sky
    and no windows/reflective surfaces or night time?

    Well here is a way to easily set your polarizer during
    these situations.

    Here is the final result to give you an idea what I am
    aiming for:

    cimg0238jm8.jpg

    Now I will show you how i made the markings.

    I used tiny strips of masking tape so that the
    polarizer ring could still turn easily.

    I then aimed the camera out the window to find
    the max and min polarization.

    Below are 2 images which indicate both:

    img0906cm8.jpg
    Minimum polarization^^
    img0907qw2.jpg
    Maximum polarization^^

    You then simply use these 2 images to mark the
    masking tape on your lens.

    Max ploarizaion is not normally recommended as
    it begins to make colors (especially sky) look
    unrealistic.

    But at least now you can know where you stand.:)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Nice idea Shiny!

    Tbh though, I hardly ever use a polarizer these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    Really?

    I almost always have one on my wide lens.

    But then again I am a landscape/sunset/sky
    freak.:rolleyes:

    I find that it makes the AF hunt alot, but that
    could be just me....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    I found out a way of using curves in CS2 to pretty much work the same as a polarizer ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    Backwards C curve in the blue channel ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭elven


    The polariser seems to darken my lens far too much, and I might just have to use the dreaded tripod...aaargh! *runs away in terror*

    I used to use it all the time though, had a tricky time sometimes figuring out what the maximum polarisation point was - that's a handy tip.

    If you take it off and put it back on does it stay in the same place though? Does it work for different lenses?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Shiny wrote:
    Backwards C curve in the blue channel ?

    In the blue channel, I'm decreasing input and increasing output, and in the red and greens I'm decreasing output and increasing input, followed by some quick playing about with the saturation of your magenta's in hue/saturation.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    It definately works if you take it on/off as it is the outer ring
    that controls the intensity.

    I have not tried it on different lens's as they are all different
    sizes for me:(.

    Although I assume there would be no difference.

    I agree with your about the darkening, happens to me too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭elven


    I used to use it on my sigma 28-80mm which was 55mm diameter (I think), and had a step down ring to use it on the 50 f1.8 at 52mm diameter and the canon 80-200mm zoom, also 52mm - works just dandy. They gave me the step down ring forfree in my old favourite camera shop in glasgow when I bought the zoom lens... ah, good old quiggs :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    elven wrote:
    I used to use it on my sigma 28-80mm which was 55mm diameter (I think), and had a step down ring to use it on the 50 f1.8 at 52mm diameter and the canon 80-200mm zoom, also 52mm - works just dandy.

    Interesting.

    *Strokes Chin*


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,878 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Shiny wrote:
    I almost always have one on my wide lens.

    But then again I am a landscape/sunset/sky
    freak.:rolleyes:
    do you not find that you have to be very wary with a polariser on a wide angle lens when taking photos with blue sky in the frame?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    When I say wide angle I mean 17mm.
    I cant afford to get a 10-20mm .....yet.

    In terms of the blue sky, I dont really understand
    what you mean.

    The effect on the sky was one of the main reasons that
    I got that filter, so that it would be a nice deep blue and
    the edges of the clouds would be more defined.

    I know that if you go too far the sky starts to look black
    and weird but I usually go for a punchy blue.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,878 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    what i'm getting at is that since the effect on the sky varies with angular distance from the sun (pointing the lens either directly towards or away from the sun removes the effect, and 90 degrees either side is where it's at its maximum), and you've got a wide lens which covers a large area of sky, the effect of the polariser varies across the frame, and you get an unnatural gradient or blotchiness in the colour of the sky.


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