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PS3 €630 in Ireland threads (merged)

  • 17-01-2007 05:45PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭


    http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/sony-screws-ireland-on-ps3-pricing-229215.php

    Game site Eurogamer reports that the Irish version of the PLAYSTATION 3 site is reporting that the upcoming 60GB version will be available at launch for EURO 629.99. The "cheaper" 20GB version, retailing at EURO 529.99, will not be available. For shock value, here's that in US dollars: $814.25 and $684.97.

    And for those keeping score, Sony announced at last year's E3 that the PS3 would be priced at EURO 499/599. Before jumping to the snide "This is Living" and doom-saying, from what I vaguely remember, though, Florian bitched about Microsoft overcharging the Irish for the Xbox 360 as well.

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

    Sooo where does the blame lie more? Over priced machine, or rip off Ireland?


    And if the Wii launch was anything to go by...expect that price to be rounded up to 650 by Game and Gamestop etc.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    well i don't care i have little or no interest in a ps3 burnout 5 looks like the only title of interest and thats on the 360 as well so a mate of mine owns one of them. I want the ps3 to flop because i like pcs and sony need a good kick because playstations are overrated


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 wiiireland


    Sony officially today announced the prices for the PS3 in ireland. We have to pay 30 euro more than any other country cause of our stupid 21% tax.



    Full story is herehttp://www.nextgenireland.com/ps3news.html

    That works out at 812 dollars

    Thats a total rip off. Get a wii and an xbox 360 for the same price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    anyone know why it is more expensive here???

    Surely the rest of europe should be getting charged the same, well at least Britain anyway (obviously in sterling)

    I doubt Sony are directly to blame on this one although i wouldn't be surprised if they were, the way things have been going for them and all.

    still not buyin one though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    What about that recycling charge for electronic products?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Thats Europe wide afaik.


    I think the obvious thing would be for consumers to boycott the product and show them that they cant **** people around like that. However, there are going to be people who will buy it in the shops here reguardless of price, and Sony know that. They are going to sell them here and thats really all that matters to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,365 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Who the **** is going to pay that? Seriously, will anyone here buy one? You're looking at €650 by the time GAME and the like round it up, then another €150 for a couple of games, so €800 for a videogame console with two games? It's lunacy, I just hope people tell them where to shove it.

    It's not like the 360 is exactly cheap either, but you can get one with four games and an extra joypad in Xtravision for almost half that.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,835 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    What about that recycling charge for electronic products?

    Which is a tenner not 30 notes. It could be 630 for the whole of Europe. However come launch expect to pay close to 700 from Game, Smyths, Gamestop and the other usual suspects. Still compared to what the japanese and Americans are paying the European price is a complete joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    That's it, I'm definitely not getting one now!

    A year ago I was tempted to get one but with mess up after mess up on Sony's part, I'm definitely now not getting one.

    I won't get one on principle alone. Sony are really arrogant if they think they can sell at this price.

    It's bad enough gamers like ourselves who know the score with the price, but imagine a clueless parent strolling into a shop, getting this for little Jimmy or Mary and finding out the price was at least 2 to 3 times what they would have guessed!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭netman


    I think parents need to learn to say no to their spoilt little brats :)

    Why would little Jimmy or Mary need to have a PS3 on launch day?
    It's only because some other kid in their school is bragging about getting one.

    Besides, for those who are really desperate enough to spend 600+ on a console, why not have a look at online retailers? Komplett were always cheaper than Game, Smyths etc, no need to queue or deal with irrate kids kicking and screaming.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    Since the UK price is going to be £425 (~€647.49), we'll definately be charged €650 in the likes of GAME, HMV, Virgin and any other UK store.

    I wonder how much games will be in store :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    Ps3= overpriced failure, honestly most of the games wont be that much better on it cause there gonna have to port it to the 360 and wii anyway.

    The only thing in the 360's way now is the problem with it constantly breaking down.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,835 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The excuse is the VAT rate is Ireland which is bull since we do have a high VAT rate but there are countries in Europe with a higher tax rate.

    The real reason: The Irish have the highest PS uptake per capita of any country. Now bend over and take it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,149 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Will it not just be cheaper to buy them online from mainland europe once the initial rush is over?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    netman wrote:
    I think parents need to learn to say no to their spoilt little brats :)

    Why would little Jimmy or Mary need to have a PS3 on launch day?
    It's only because some other kid in their school is bragging about getting one.

    Besides, for those who are really desperate enough to spend 600+ on a console, why not have a look at online retailers? Komplett were always cheaper than Game, Smyths etc, no need to queue or deal with irrate kids kicking and screaming.

    My thoughts exactly.

    The thing at this pricepoint, Playstation is becoming a more elite, luxury "brand".

    Most parents with any bit of sense will say no to their kids, and get either a 360, Wii, or good package deal on a PS2 for them instead.

    A lot of casual gamers will say "f**k that" and stick with what they have. Moderate gamers may like either the 360 or Wii, or perhaps the combo.

    Only the die-hards with plenty of disposable income will be queueing for this.

    And Playstation used be considered the casual gamer, for the masses console.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Senior Retail Sources also reckon that you won't be able to buy the 20GB version in Britain, as Sony has confirmed will be the case in Ireland - at least for a while after launch.

    now we got a bonfire going.

    Usually my friend ProjectMayham comes in here on defence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    tbh though, if you were going to buy one there is no point wasting money on the 20GB version, you are much better off to get the bigger 60GB version with all its extras.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭Winters




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭pig on the wing


    bastards ... this is why everyone hates every piece of gaming coming out of sony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    true but isnt it possible to put any 2 5' sata 150 hard disk into the PS3?

    If I did get a ps3 (which I cant cause I cant afford it and there is nothing to intice me yet) I wouldnt mind paying a 100 euro less and waiting for the hard disks to drop in price and pick up a bigger sized hard disk when I can afford it.

    Thats how I'd treat the PS3 if its getting so expensive...like a PC I'd start looking for ways to cut out the garbage I dont want that they are pushing on me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭steviec


    Well there was exactly the same uproar when Microsoft did exactly the same thing by upping the Irish price from their original European price and had exactly the same tax excuse. The Wii is retailing for €270 in most Irish stores(I think argos are the exception) despite it's European price of €250.

    So it's really no different, just the starting price was higher to begin with, but then we already knew that. Ireland does have higher transport costs etc. associated with it, and we spend more on games than anyone else in Europe, Sony aren't the only company that's copped on to that.

    If you don't agree then don't buy it. Everyone who's claiming to be outraged had already made their minds up anyway, it's just another excuse to bash Sony. I remember when the PS2 was IR£400, it didn't hurt it in the end. By the time 90% of people buy one it'll be a lot cheaper than it's current price.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,894 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Winters wrote:
    tbh though, if you were going to buy one there is no point wasting money on the 20GB version, you are much better off to get the bigger 60GB version with all its extras.

    Yeah this 'premium' idea with the new consoles is really a little irritating.
    But that price really is ridiculous. At 630 yo yos the PS3 really needs a killer app fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You're looking at €650 by the time GAME and the like round it up, then another €150 for a couple of games, so €800 for a videogame console with two games? It's lunacy, I just hope people tell them where to shove it.
    You would have a top of the range PC for that price .
    Only a fool would buy the PS3.
    If the kids start complaining take off your belt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    BlitzKrieg wrote:
    true but isnt it possible to put any 2 5' sata 150 hard disk into the PS3?

    Yes, but the 60GB one features SD/XD/MS/CM etc. card readers and also WiFi. The 20GB one does not. There is more in the price difference then just hard disc size.

    As the economy over here is doing well, it seems as though stores are using this to ripp us off with higher prices then our friends on the mainland. Its a killer but thats life. The way to get around that would be to buy your stuff from online stores and save money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    it's just another excuse to bash Sony

    but its so damn easy!

    The difference between the upscaling of this price to the upscaling of the Wii (not sure about the 360 was in UK for its launch) is that Nintendo said the RRP is 250, the stores themselves pushed it up to 270. Here Sony is saying the RRP is 630...which (as I said in OP) leaves game etc to push up the price EVEN MORE like they did with the Wii. Sony have already upped the price and we still have to see how much further the stores will push it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Yes, but the 60GB one features SD/XD/MS/CM etc. card readers and also WiFi. The 20GB one does not. There is more in the price difference then just hard disc size.

    my rebuttle is:
    wikipedia wrote:
    Nevertheless, as both models feature four USB 2.0 ports, wireless networking and flash memory card support can already be obtained through the use of widely available external USB adapters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭kaisersose77


    netman wrote:
    Besides, for those who are really desperate enough to spend 600+ on a console, why not have a look at online retailers? Komplett were always cheaper than Game, Smyths etc, no need to queue or deal with irrate kids kicking and screaming.

    komplett would be the last place to check, im sure i read that a lot of ppl didnt get their wii's off them for xmas.

    Anyways, the sony defence force will be here soon," sure the xbox 360 costs 400 euro, plus 200 euro for the hd-dvd drive, plus 100 euro for the wireless adpater plus plus....... the ps3 is a flippin bargain!"


    The casual gamer isnt gonna be checking forums like these or game websites( as there the only places i have heard anything about the planned price), so there gonna be in for a shock when they start to see the ps3 price being advertised in the weeks before its released. Ppl say bla bla cost £400 when it came out, but i doubt as many ppl bought consoles at launch then as they do now and so a lot of ppl would have bought it a lot cheaper a year after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    Haha lads, you's are being ripped off. The 360 is just as good :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    While I would be interested in the Linux capabilities, and what could be achieved with it and the PS3 dash, (i.e. Home-brew, etc.) I think someone needs a good kick up the hole for this sort of rip off!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Sony cunningly disabled 3d graphics acceleration in the linux distribution, just to make things that little bit ****tier.


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