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Online "live readings"

  • 10-01-2007 1:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭


    howya

    what are peoples opinions of online pyschics, ie the ones you can converse with live over the web?

    ive never & would never do anything like that but i suppose its as "wacky" as goin to see one face to face No??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    There is be arguements for this on both cases.

    If we consider that we are part of a collective conscious then there is no reason why geographical location or distance should have any bearing on a reading, look at remote viewing or distance healing?

    Then again as soon as some people see a medium or whatever making a profit or working in a commercialized way then people scream 'FAKE' presuming that these people should work for free for the benefit of mankind ... if they really have powahs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    6th wrote:
    There is be arguements for this on both cases.

    If we consider that we are part of a collective conscious then there is no reason why geographical location or distance should have any bearing on a reading, look at remote viewing or distance healing?

    Then again as soon as some people see a medium or whatever making a profit or working in a commercialized way then people scream 'FAKE' presuming that these people should work for free for the benefit of mankind ... if they really have powahs!


    thats what i was thinking, people see FT's or whever working en masse on a company run website & auto assume they are frauds whereas a bloke or lady sitting in a dingy backroom somewhere instils trust somehow:confused: suppose its lack of trust, either or there are fakes practising in both environments i suppose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    There are fakes in all situations so its best to judge on personal experience where possible. I know if I was a FT I would like to be ableto make a living out of it, and working for a company means steady work ... you have to be practical, many of these people have families.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Aisling&M


    I cannot read very well over distances. I can get spirits messages sometimes but for the purposes of psychic reading or 'fortune tellings' I prefer to be in the same room. I pick up on the info easier. Hope that helps.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    The only online ones I've seen were done in chat rooms. I got the very strong impression that while some readers seemed quite genuine, sincere and gifted, others seemed to either be just getting caught up in it all or else just throwing random ideas out to see what would come back.

    In terms of paying for one, I don't think it would be a good idea personally. At least when you meet someone face to face you can get a better idea of what person they are.

    With that said, I don't see any reason why it can't be done as well over the web as it can be face to face. I've often heard of people picking up strong impressions from people they communicate with online, and getting strong feelings of energy or even images. There have been posts here before by people who've experienced such things, if I can remember how they came up I'll see if I can search for them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    I have had both done. I rang one and thought while she picked up on how I was feeling about a certain situation she used it to her advantage, on ending that conversation, I thought umm wounder if I had given more to her answers than I realised so I rang a different one and kept quiet and I have to say he was more actuate than the first. I do feel than a personal face to face reading is always best and I like it to be recorded, so I can listen back and here what she/he actually said as I find after a reading it can be hard to remember what was said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    just thinking last night........

    you know the way people go on about "cold reading" etc.....these online readings negate that theory surely?? as in if you get a reader who just starts spouting stuff at you & it happens to be true...there is no possible way they can be reading your reaction........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Cold Reding isnt just about reading peoples bodily reactions. If you throw enough crap out there then someone who is desperate for information or someone who is 'reaching' will react audibly or even tell the reader the bits that fit.
    Reader: I see a man with long hair and he seems to be standing in a busy building - does any of this mean anything to you?

    Caller: Well my uncle had long hair and he died a couple of years back?

    Reader: Ah yes, i think its him. The busy building isnt actually a building, it represents your life - do you have alot going on in your life?

    Caller: Yes, I'm worried about my job.

    Reader: Well he just wants to let you know that he is there for you and watching over you.

    You get the idea I'm sure but they could (presuming they are cold reading) throw out alot more info like initials (I'm getting the letter 'J' or 'M') or colours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Face to face is always better but some can preform remote reading is possible for some people.

    I have found that I can connect with people usind im and irc chat programs
    and pick stuff up for a general read on them but I have not used that in the conjuntion with my Cards that often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    6th wrote:
    Cold Reding isnt just about reading peoples bodily reactions. If you throw enough crap out there then someone who is desperate for information or someone who is 'reaching' will react audibly or even tell the reader the bits that fit.



    You get the idea I'm sure but they could (presuming they are cold reading) throw out alot more info like initials (I'm getting the letter 'J' or 'M') or colours.


    true of course. like they are building a "story" around the info youre providing.....i done one of these for experimental purposes with the highest rank on the site....who happens to be scottish so it felt easier talking to him rather then talking to some yank in alabama or somewhere & to be honest he didnt need my name or DOB like others seemed to, he just asked what area of my life i wanted to look at, i told him & before i could say anything else he went on a rant & didnt ask me whether it was true or not....hes very abrupt & quite frank & there wasnt any sugarcoating, it was like "here is what i see, like it or lump it" in certain ways


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    stevenmu wrote:
    In terms of paying for one, I don't think it would be a good idea personally. At least when you meet someone face to face you can get a better idea of what person they are.
    .

    I have to agree with Stevenmu here,
    adding to it, regardless of anyones general opinion on the the true worth of readings, it has to be said that ringing up/over the phone etc greatly increases the likelyhood of fraud etc. In some ways it could be compared to those 1500 porn phone numbers where there is a picture of a page 3 model beside the number, but you could end up talking to anyone.
    Maybe the question could be "can a medium give a decent reading over the phone?"
    A lot of people here seem to think that it's better to be face to face, so even if you are lucky enough to get a genuinely gifted person, it seems that they will not be as effective at a distance. Logically it sounds like you are better off going to see a recommended person, and if you can't get to one, maybe making a phone call to a recommended person at least you would be calling a person and not a "Service".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    http://www.kasamba.com/Rating/ViewRating.aspx?i_MemID=106252


    heres the rating page of the one i "experimented" with.....now im not the type to be lulled by things that just anyone says...but he is the highest rank on that site & theres tonnes of readers (alot of them are chancers, even he said it) & to be fair he was spot on with my situation & said things that were fairly accurate........its all about opinions though but a lot of ratings have clarified "things coming to pass" which i understand can be coincidence but............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    I could believe some of them are chancers, based upon some of the people I was looking at the computer programming -> computer and video games category on there as well... looks like a site anyone could join up on really.


    Edit: Some of the psychic prices are amazing... anything from $1.99 to $20!

    Edit 2: Some of them are lower, and I'd imagine higher than that. Seems like a profitable line of business if you're good! I personally don't think I could charge massive amounts of money, even if I was a brilliant psychic... it seems wrong to charge so much...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    I could believe some of them are chancers, based upon some of the people I was looking at the computer programming -> computer and video games category on there as well... looks like a site anyone could join up on really.


    Edit: Some of the psychic prices are amazing... anything from $1.99 to $20!


    yeah effectively any one can join...........& some of the prices for tarot readers are ridiculous to say the least but ive a feeling there are genuine readers on there....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    I don't doubt that in the slightest. Where you find the good ones, chancers are always trying to follow in their footsteps, only their shoes aren't the right size...

    Coincidentally, I'm sorta working on a similar website, though at present, it's more computing-related. Was hoping to eventually branch it out, though I want quality controls to prevent chancers from trying something.

    Edit: It's really hard to say if you get what you pay for without actually trying it sometimes... though the testimonials are a good indicator, as is the star rating...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    I don't doubt that in the slightest. Where you find the good ones, chancers are always trying to follow in their footsteps, only their shoes aren't the right size...

    Coincidentally, I'm sorta working on a similar website, though at present, it's more computing-related. Was hoping to eventually branch it out, though I want quality controls to prevent chancers from trying something.

    Edit: It's really hard to say if you get what you pay for without actually trying it sometimes... though the testimonials are a good indicator, as is the star rating...


    exactly....that fella, David Johnston was telling me that the website is always trying to combat frauds etc but unfortunately a fact of life, he also recommends certain readers if you ask him to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Word of mouth works much better at times, but as you said, frauds are a fact of life, which is quite unfortunate. Of course, frounds have been around for ages, so you just have to learn to separate the wheat from the chaff as it were.


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