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So what's next for BF2

  • 08-01-2007 4:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭


    Is there any future left in BF2 ?
    or do EA expect us all to move onto that BF 2142 Rubbish ...
    Any hopes of a Battlefield 3 ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    Yea I hope it doesnt die out like vietnam and 1942 have not so sure about vietnam tho?

    If a battlefield "3" did come out I pray to god it stays 21st century combat like battlefield 2! I dont like the futuristic idea of 2142!

    Maybe with more planes helis, and vehicles add new features game dynamics... I dont have a clue what im talking about I just want it to stay as "modern combat" and not walking tanks lol :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭jonski


    I'd be inclined to think that if there is a BF3 ( it's highly unlikely there won't be ) , EA/Dice will probably go back to WWII . They have present and future cover for now and it was WWII that started it all .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    maybe the will just go even further back?
    like a Rome Total War or even a Age of Empires style

    It would be pretty cool to be firing a trebuchet or belting around on horseback with a bow and arrow...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    Ya i wouldn't mind a trip back to WW2 if it's done properly.
    Maybe the graphics of COD3 with the scale of WWIIONLINE :D
    don't ask for much eh lol


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Silverfish wrote:
    I was thinking more 'Battlefield 1042 - The Vikings'.

    With ads for fresh suckling pig, and the latest longship by Bjorn Hjronnedsonsonssson.


    01-09-2006, 20:34. You heard it here first.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭Jackabo


    Lol i wouldnt be suprised Viri :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    I was just playing tonight and I was thinking how cool it would be if they change the whole way for killing units such as tanks and helis.. keep the weapons the same but just like change the way the inflict damage on tanks and what not!

    Example of this would be lets say theres a black hawk above your head and you have a SRAW or whatever hit it in the tail rotor and it will just spin out of control and hit the ground(no one can jump out either) depending on how good the pilot is if it hits the ground slowly they can all get out... hard and they all die..

    Oh and im not sure if that have this already(maybe in special forces) roping down from black hawks?

    It should only take one hit at the wheels of a tank to disable it, knock the chain off then another two to destroy it...

    lol am I just saying nonsense or does anyone else think these would be good ideas?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    I'd say if you want it that detailed your lookign at a proper physics engine..And you can imagine how many patches ea would need to get that right :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    I think next they should have hovertanks, mines that follow vehicles and mec... wait a minute nevermind.

    What deafvision said, make it more realistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭LoLth


    BF:NY Crips vs Bloods

    street fights! Limited weaponry , a good bit of melee involved (knives, hatchets, baseball bats etc) , standard street cars - can be modded to have armour, mounted guns etc , petrol bombs, motorbikes with optional sidecars.

    Maybe have different factions depending on the area of the city: gnagland = gang v gang , downtown = gang v cop , uptown = gang v private security.

    One thing I would love to see is a campaign server where the maps are interconnected. victory on one map means moving to the next to achieve an overall objective. Capture points on a map are optional and give resources for the next map - eg: ammo dump gives additional weaponry , state trooper garage gives access to police cars etc.

    An expansion o f the campaign server would be the option for commanders to place resources in provinces on a large city map giving a more strategic aspect to the game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    Every building in the game should be accessible with lots of roooms! This would make alot harder on normal soldiers and a haven for snipers lol! Also make rounds last like 1 or more each make it it "slower" I like all the getting in fast and killing eachother but I hate when rounds end in about 5 - 10 mins and then you have to load another map! HATE IT!

    There was this one time on karkand where out in the front over that fence where the trees and grass are!?

    well me and a guy where at the 1st tree and we took turns covering each other going from tree to tree until we got to the building it was great because in that space of time we killed guys trying to kill us :P

    That probably happens alot in clan servers the whole aspect of teamwork but I have yet to see it really in servers with public!

    More rant from me :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    how about BF : Limerick

    you choose one of 4 scumbag familes , your mission is to control turf around the city, you capture points not by flags but capturing SPARS and Centras.

    Some of the weapons would include standard sawn off shotgun , handgun,axe, nissian micra with boy racer skin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    magick wrote:
    how about BF : Limerick

    you choose one of 4 scumbag familes , your mission is to control turf around the city, you capture points not by flags but capturing SPARS and Centras.

    Some of the weapons would include standard sawn off shotgun , handgun,axe, nissian micra with boy racer skin.

    cough*knife*cough


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    I had understood that the next BF game would be BF "Bad Company", confirmed for the PC, 360 and PS3.

    http://screenshots.teamxbox.com/gallery/1547/Battlefield-Bad-Company/p1/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭LoLth


    nope...

    http://www.ea.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/editorial.jsp?src=bfbc_announcement

    appears to be more of a story based FPS than a multiplayer gloryfest of tears and blood. (console wussieboys! :p) . Also, no mention of the PC in that article either.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    So what's next for BF2

    Quake Wars, if the hype is to be believed.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    LoLth wrote:
    Also, no mention of the PC in that article either.

    The article dates from August. It's been confirmed for the PC since then AFAIK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭gibbon75


    DeafVision wrote:
    I was just playing tonight and I was thinking how cool it would be if they change the whole way for killing units such as tanks and helis.. keep the weapons the same but just like change the way the inflict damage on tanks and what not!

    Example of this would be lets say theres a black hawk above your head and you have a SRAW or whatever hit it in the tail rotor and it will just spin out of control and hit the ground(no one can jump out either) depending on how good the pilot is if it hits the ground slowly they can all get out... hard and they all die..

    Oh and im not sure if that have this already(maybe in special forces) roping down from black hawks?

    It should only take one hit at the wheels of a tank to disable it, knock the chain off then another two to destroy it...

    lol am I just saying nonsense or does anyone else think these would be good ideas?

    That was done 6 years ago.
    There was a game called Operation Flashpoint made by a small group from Chech Republic in 2001...the best war game ever IMHO.
    If a tank ran on a mine the chain came off,but you could use the turret etc.
    Realistic (or pretty close) simulation of wounds.Two bullets and you were dead.Huuuuge maps,brilliant terrain (bushes,trees to hide).
    If you were sprinting too long you collapsed dead :)
    But you could here the enemy's hard breathing too as they were closing on your hiding place.
    Anyone else remember this game?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭iFight


    magick wrote:
    how about BF : Limerick

    you choose one of 4 scumbag familes , your mission is to control turf around the city, you capture points not by flags but capturing SPARS and Centras.

    Some of the weapons would include standard sawn off shotgun , handgun,axe, nissian micra with boy racer skin.

    :D:D

    Id say the WWII idea would be good, dont like the future thing anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭jonski


    gibbon75 wrote:
    That was done 6 years ago.
    There was a game called Operation Flashpoint made by a small group from Chech Republic in 2001...the best war game ever IMHO.
    If a tank ran on a mine the chain came off,but you could use the turret etc.
    Realistic (or pretty close) simulation of wounds.Two bullets and you were dead.Huuuuge maps,brilliant terrain (bushes,trees to hide).
    If you were sprinting too long you collapsed dead :)
    But you could here the enemy's hard breathing too as they were closing on your hiding place.
    Anyone else remember this game?


    There is a new version of this on the way ...kinda...so I believe "ArmedAssault"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    This game online gibbon75?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    Well my hope is that when they do the BF3 engince that they start all over again with BF1943 and work back up through the big wars like they have already done. Only this time to include the korean war. The new BFV game could actually then call its self BFV2. And then they get up to modern war we will actually get BF3. Its only my wish list though......... who knows what will happen, but at least my idea allows them to release a new game every year and thats what EA like to do.

    Think about Battlefield underground carbon extreme........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭gibbon75


    DeafVision wrote:
    This game online gibbon75?

    It used to be,but last time I've checked it was about 3-4 years ago.
    Although I've played it only the single player missions.The AI was simply amazing,the story line was brilliant too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭gibbon75


    DeafVision wrote:

    Wow,didn't know about this!Thanks for the info mate :)
    I'll deffo buy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    DeafVision wrote:

    Droolage!!

    I hope my PC can take it! Downloading the demo now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    Demo runs crap on my pc... checked there forums some guy had a nice enough(well better than mine) pc and he had problems with the demo lag and stuf!

    Its ok though just pc cant handle it lol

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Brianb8802


    LoLth wrote:
    BF:NY Crips vs Bloods

    street fights! Limited weaponry , a good bit of melee involved (knives, hatchets, baseball bats etc) , standard street cars - can be modded to have armour, mounted guns etc , petrol bombs, motorbikes with optional sidecars.

    Maybe have different factions depending on the area of the city: gnagland = gang v gang , downtown = gang v cop , uptown = gang v private security.

    One thing I would love to see is a campaign server where the maps are interconnected. victory on one map means moving to the next to achieve an overall objective. Capture points on a map are optional and give resources for the next map - eg: ammo dump gives additional weaponry , state trooper garage gives access to police cars etc.

    An expansion o f the campaign server would be the option for commanders to place resources in provinces on a large city map giving a more strategic aspect to the game.


    That sounds very like Saints Row to me ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭LoLth


    That saints row looks interesting alright. but I was thinking of a more BF slanted game :)

    must check FAQ and see if there's a PC version planned....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Operation Flashpoint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭LoLth


    SyxPak wrote:
    Operation Flashpoint.


    Ah, I see we have a case of GTA (Gamer Tourette's Affliction). :D
    was this QUAKE comment aimed at DOOM anyone in particular FEAR or is this where you AFRIKA CORP think battlefield TETRIS is going ?

    edit: hmmm, was funnier in my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭R0ot


    jebus its been awhile since i posted here, well i got sick of bf2 after bf2142 came out, wasnt goin to touch 2142 with a barge pole, ive moved into Eve Online and havent looked back. Afaik the major bf2 clans are still participating in multiplayer leagues of bf2, bf2142 im unsure about, but like Vietnam and 1942 bf2 will always have those few dedicated servers to play on. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭Ru


    I'm sick of BF2 and BF2142 is a pile of crap.... however (and ye may already know this) there some fantastic conversions out there. Look for Point Of Existence 2, it's out now and has seriously improved gameplay.

    The days of waiting for developers are over.... it's the modders time in the sun, they know what we want and they deliver...

    see "moddb com" and look for yourself..........
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    well im still playing bf2 as well as playing 2142. Im trying to strike up a balance with the 2 games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭[AK47][JONNYNEW


    BF2 wont die at all.
    Game spy have taken over the rankings. so that will live on,
    The ranking keep a lot of peeps interested.
    As for Nam. that died du to the ranking system in bf2.

    1942 is still alive as ever, with over a 1000 server,
    Sadly Nam only has 200 or so,


    I have also heard rumors of a battlefield 3.
    perhaps it will called BF1943.
    Basically a remake of 1942 with a new engine, as 1942 has been the most successful BF game to date. at one stage over 15000 server. duoble what BF2 had


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    I uninstalled BF2 months ago due to not enjoying it online anymore and getting sick of clanning. (inter clan bitching, unejoyable matches etc etc turned me right off it).
    I upgraded my pc a few weeks ago, decided to reinstall BF2 as a stress test for the graphics (ramped everything up to max settings on 1280 x 1024). Played single player games cause i could be bothered downloading the latest patch (with 64 palyer maps unlocked) and came to the revelations that..BF2 IS BETTER IN SINGLE PLAYER MODE!
    Seriously...

    Bots dont camp for helis and shoot you when youre running for them.
    Bots dont vote to kick you if you arty your own team.
    Bots follow orders.
    A bot actually repaired my tank for me last night. In all my time playing bf2 i dont think a player ever voluntarily ran up to my vehicle and repaired it!
    Bots dont spawn camp you
    Bots arent as retarded as humans are when they get online (you know the equation, anonymity + microphone + audience = complete tosser)
    V 1.0 weapons ACTUALLY WORK

    Seriously..im never playing BF2 online again. Bots are so much nicer than people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    0ubliette wrote:
    I uninstalled BF2 months ago due to not enjoying it online anymore and getting sick of clanning. (inter clan bitching, unejoyable matches etc etc turned me right off it).
    I upgraded my pc a few weeks ago, decided to reinstall BF2 as a stress test for the graphics (ramped everything up to max settings on 1280 x 1024). Played single player games cause i could be bothered downloading the latest patch (with 64 palyer maps unlocked) and came to the revelations that..BF2 IS BETTER IN SINGLE PLAYER MODE!
    Seriously...

    Bots dont camp for helis and shoot you when youre running for them.
    Bots dont vote to kick you if you arty your own team.
    Bots follow orders.
    A bot actually repaired my tank for me last night. In all my time playing bf2 i dont think a player ever voluntarily ran up to my vehicle and repaired it!
    Bots dont spawn camp you
    Bots arent as retarded as humans are when they get online (you know the equation, anonymity + microphone + audience = complete tosser)
    V 1.0 weapons ACTUALLY WORK

    Seriously..im never playing BF2 online again. Bots are so much nicer than people.

    You sound like Gabe below!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    You sound like Gabe below!! :D
    Its like im thinking it, and he's saying it!! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Instant Karma


    bf1943 would rock - needs to be done right tho, and EA has to forget about all this ranking crap. The thing about 42 & bfv was they were fun games and this whole ranking malarkey sucked every bit of fun out of the game. in 42 & bfv you could mod maps, have high ticket games, about anything you wanted with your own server and not have to worry about breaking any bs terms of service.

    you can reply and sing the praises of the ranking sys if you wish but the rankings were just a crutch, and only the piss poor players who played 24/7 made it to the top of the ranking sys, honestly does anyone ever check that ranking ladder? there already were independant stats for 42 and bfv which imho were fine and filled the stst void for those who wished, and in reality the only one anyone seemed to pay attention to was kdr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    oddly enough I always go out of my way to repair tanks whenever im an engineer supply people with ammo heal and revive people when I play with them kits.. Thats what there for right?

    Honestly theres alot of people who wont do it like I was playing last night and a medic was beside me and I was down on 3 bars of life called for a medic 3 times he does nothing and then he gets shot and throws a medic bag for himself and proceeds to vacate the scene... I proceed to tk the guy take his kit drop a few medic bags and vacate :D

    I hate it like or when you get killed and theres 5 medics around you and they do nothing and you have to type for a medic lol

    To 0ubliette you just need to find a good fun clan all older maturer players it will be great!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    DeafVision wrote:
    oddly enough I always go out of my way to repair tanks whenever im an engineer supply people with ammo heal and revive people when I play with them kits.. Thats what there for right?

    Honestly theres alot of people who wont do it like I was playing last night and a medic was beside me and I was down on 3 bars of life called for a medic 3 times he does nothing and then he gets shot and throws a medic bag for himself and proceeds to vacate the scene... I proceed to tk the guy take his kit drop a few medic bags and vacate :D

    I hate it like or when you get killed and theres 5 medics around you and they do nothing and you have to type for a medic lol

    To 0ubliette you just need to find a good fun clan all older maturer players it will be great!

    lol sometimes id do that not out of not wanting to help, but just beong to absorbed to notice teamates that needed help :D
    Nah, ive clanned for a long time (with older gamers, not young uns i might add) and am just tired of it. Too much commitment. You feel like youre letting the team down if everyone on your xfire is playing BF2 and all you want is some good ol dod:sauce. And games should be fun you know, fun for me is playing for an hour or two and having a blast, not having to sit down and practice tactics and memorise them and yadda yadda. Single player is the future of bf2 for me ;)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    I would like more Tank battles in any future game.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    The EuroForce booster pack had wonderful tank battles, wonderful I tell ya !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭up'Chuck


    Ponster wrote:
    The EuroForce booster pack had wonderful tank battles, wonderful I tell ya !

    operation smoke screen was one of the best maps i've ever played, huge tank battles, jets, choppers.. it was great.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Ponster wrote:
    The EuroForce booster pack had wonderful tank battles, wonderful I tell ya !


    I must check this out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,225 ✭✭✭Scruff


    up'Chuck wrote:
    operation smoke screen was one of the best maps i've ever played, huge tank battles, jets, choppers.. it was great.

    /shakes fist at jets and choppers from tank turret

    i'm still waiting for a mod without those b4st4rds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    Please no future,

    Either WWII or Modern times.

    More details like you guys have mentioned(tracks falling off, all houses accessible) this time are essential, better graphics is not enough for next generation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    CyberGhost wrote:
    Please no future,

    Either WWII or Modern times.

    More details like you guys have mentioned(tracks falling off, all houses accessible) this time are essential, better graphics is not enough for next generation.

    I agree that better graphics will not "save the franchise".
    Everything needs to be part of the game, if I see something I want to be able to interact with it.

    I wonder can they go further back than WWII, I think something with horses, knights, arrows *could* be pretty cool.


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