Changes after planning is granted

sas

Just wondering if I could omit 2 chimneys from a house that we have planning for and still be compliant with planning permission?

Can't get through to the planning office and I've no patience....

tungsten

you dont need to lodge an entirely new application, but the ommissions will need to be clarified with the planner concerned

construct06

ya the planner concerned once informed of your intentions may deem rthe changes minor and not contrary to the original grant of planning permission. Make sure you get this formally , in writing from the planner and that it goes on your planning file.

Planner may deem the changes significant though and in this case a new application would be required.

CJhaughey

AFAIK Chimneys are not subject to planning.

smashey

If the changes are deemed to be minor, you should apply for a minor amendment. The fee is €63.00.

tba

you could simply leave the chimney stacks and remove the internal workings of them, if thats the concern.

construct06

what process is that Smashey - does it involve a full planning application - 2 months waiting etc....?

sas

tba wrote:

you could simply leave the chimney stacks and remove the internal workings of them, if thats the concern.

Quite the opposite in fact. I've been doing alot of reading about heating, insulation and passive homes.

Apparently chimneys are a major source of heatloss and we're considering removing the open fires altogether.

CJhaughey

Open fires are a huge source of lost heat in a house, however in many cases they provide a level of ventilation that would otherwise be almost nonexistent if mechanical ventilation is not used.
Have you considered keeping the chimneys and utilising Solid fuel stoves instead?
These are more efficient and allow flexibility in fuel choices while also controlling the heat loss from the room.
I was querying the chimney design with my engineer and he stated that chimneys are not subject to planning so whether I used a twinwall stainless steel chimney or a block one it didn't matter.

smashey

construct06 wrote:

what process is that Smashey - does it involve a full planning application - 2 months waiting etc....?

It isn't a full application so no need for newspaper notices or site notices. Submit a revised set of drawings highlighting the change(s) with the fee and a covering letter to the planning dept. I had one where the reply came back the same week (approved) and others where the reply varied from two to four weeks. These were applied for after the final grant of permission for the original application.

construct06

is there a name on this procedure?

is it mentioned in the planning regs?

muffler

construct06 wrote:

is there a name on this procedure?

is it mentioned in the planning regs?

As smashey said - a minor amendment

In regulations? yes, somewhere

De_man

smashey wrote:

If the changes are deemed to be minor, you should apply for a minor amendment. The fee is €63.00.

I was in this situation recently, the planners wrote back saying there was
no problem and deemed to be minor

however, i wasn't asked for nor paid the 63euro

does this fee apply "locally" or is it a country wide fee, i don't want
any probs in time over 63euro with our council

Thanks

muffler

Gift horse etc.

Nah I wouldnt think that they would look for money now as all planning fees must be paid upfront.

I think the fee (or no fee) is set by individual Councils at their own discretion

construct06

ya im in same situation.

i wrote to planner outlining some changes i wanted to the original planning and i stated that i believed the changes were minor.

He agreed and sent a letter confirming same.

i paid no €63 and did not fill out any form....