god i wish i lived in chicago in the year 2000...

Creamy Goodness

just reading a thread over on another forum about the smashing pumpkins last gig together in chicago.

check out this setlist...:eek:

The Metro, Chicago, 12/2/2000

Act I: Bringing Down the Sound:
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Rocket-->
I Am One
Rhinoceros
Shame
Porcelina of the Vast Ocean
The Everlasting Gaze-->
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Spiteface (Tease)
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Blissed and Gone*
To Sheila*&
Mayonaise
I of the Mourning


Act II:
Muzzle^
Stand Inside Your Love^
Perfect^
This Time
Go
The Last Song
(Last Instrumental)
Age of Innocence
Thirty-Three


Act III: Let It All Come Down:
Tonight, Tonight
Siva
**** You (An Ode To No One)
Drown
Starla
If There Is A God
Cash Car Star
Rock On-->
Heavy Metal Machine
Today


Encore 1:
For Martha@
Born Under A Bad Sign@


Encore 2:
Cherub Rock#


Encore 3:
Disarm
1979^


Encore 4:
Silver****



Legend:
*: w/ Dennis Flemion and Jimmy Flemion
&: w/ Linda Strawberry
^: w/ Matt Walker
#: w/ Rick Nielsen
@: w/ Billy Corgan Sr.


apparently the whole thing was filmed for a keepsake and may of someday been released as a live dvd (would they get it all on one dvd lol).

just thinking since the smashing pumpkins are coming back with a new album the chances of this show ever seeing the light of day is slim at best.

i think i would of died by encore 2 tbh .

John

One of the songs from that gig is on the Greatest Hits DVD, I can't remember which one though. I'd love for it to come out on DVD (as that's more realistic than me going back in time to see it).

PiE

It would have been something else alright. The Metro is such a small place too, probably around the same size as the Olympia (minus the upper floor).

Not a day goes by that I don't regret giving up my ticket for their last Dublin gig.

John

Why did you do that? :eek:

PiE

Because my sister was the one who got me "into" the Pumpkins (and music in general), but she hadn't got a ticket. So I did the gentlemanly thing.

I had seen them in Wembley Arena the week before though

honru

John wrote:

One of the songs from that gig is on the Greatest Hits DVD, I can't remember which one though. I'd love for it to come out on DVD (as that's more realistic than me going back in time to see it).

I think it was **** You. Could be wrong though.

Would be a damn fine DVD I must say.

-Freebird-

Jays, they god plenty of songs in there didn't they... But, um neither Ava Adore or Eye was played?

John

PiE wrote:

Because my sister was the one who got me "into" the Pumpkins (and music in general), but she hadn't got a ticket. So I did the gentlemanly thing.

I had seen them in Wembley Arena the week before though

Oh well so it all worked out in the end. GG.

Mushy

Wow, oh how I wish I was old enough to see them back in the day now. I would quite literally not be able to stand by the end of that(probably long before that even). Only thing wrong with it for me is that no Zero in there, apart from that its just phenomonal set. That'd be amazing to be released on DVD, hours of enjoyment for everyone.

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/message.html

Nice little message from Billy, taken from the official bandpage. All I can say is Wooo F'in HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lostexpectation

what bootlegs do you have, bought some fantastics tapes years back, and some cds and now mp3 and the video of the german show, naked man we salute you etc

John

Please don't discuss bootlegs on the forum or link to illegal downloads, cheers.

Secretpint

Originally Posted by John
One of the songs from that gig is on the Greatest Hits DVD, I can't remember which one though. I'd love for it to come out on DVD (as that's more realistic than me going back in time to see it).

it was indeed An ode to no one...billy really black metals it up, very cool...

selpher

You can see 1979 from that very show here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_djQmPk_Uo.
Funniest thing at that gig was when the band walked on stage to mellon collie, some one forgot to switch the cd off, cause when they started playing rocket, tonite started playin in the background. They had to start again lol.

PiE

Mushy wrote:

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/message.html

Bah. I was hoping he'd gotten over that religious blip. Expectations for the new album reach an all-time low.

Mushy

Bah. I was hoping he'd gotten over that religious blip. Expectations for the new album reach an all-time low

I dont care about the whole religious thing, just note that WORLD TOUR bit. Its the old songs I want to hear live

Den_M

Secretpint wrote:

it was indeed An ode to no one...billy really black metals it up, very cool...

The bit at the start where Billy looks over at Jimmy as they both lock in time is great, Jimmy does a kind of 'man we're so damn good!' kinda smirk back.

Saw that message from Billy a few days back. A lot of people are interpreting the 'moving on from old faces' comment as indicating James & D'arcy won't be in the band. Pity Billy is talking such gibberish, but at least he's happy I guess.

JC 2K3

What about Zero???

On the new tour is Billy still gonna sing Pumpkins songs with anti religious sentiments?(eg. "God is empty")

pig on the wing

i was 9 when the last metro show took place...but i saw the 1979 snippet on the full circle documentary. now they're my favourite band. (of course, not solely becuase of that performance)
anyways, the new album is probably going to be the first and only cd i'll buy within 6 months of its release...all the cd's i buy are more than half a year old when i buy them. i'm definetely going to their gig when they tour ireland. hopefully it won't be sold out or over 18s.

pig on the wing

also, what do you fellow avid pumpkins fans think of this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CVaKOaEttl4
it's the panic at the disco cover of tonight tonight. being a massive pumpkins fan, as well as a massive patd hater, i think, surprisingly, they didn't ruin it. maybe it's because, save for the vocals, they recreated the song completely.

one more thing, this is what i found on their myspace concerning the reunion. they're not revealing much...

Q. Who's in the band?
A. Not telling.

Q. When is the album coming out?
A. Soon.

Q. What does it sound like?
A. The Smashing Pumpkins.

Creamy Goodness

how did they recreate the song, it sounds like a carbon copy to me?

or have i gone deaf?

JC 2K3

Vocals are terrible, and the drums in a lot of it are far too harsh.

John

That's a dreadful cover, I only got as far as "Time is never time at all..." and had to stop it.

pig on the wing

alright, fine, it was a crap cover. we all agree, now let's go back to praising sp.

Mushy

Cremo wrote:

how did they recreate the song, it sounds like a carbon copy to me?

or have i gone deaf?

At the start of the vocals, he's using the hats instead of the rim on the snare anyway.

That just adds to the list of people who shouldnt try and do another persons unique vocals. First Avril Lavigne doing James Hetfield...now that!

But anyway, yeah, the Metro in 2000...I just wanna see this band in a big way.

Bateman

I had Mellon Collie a long time, but was just starting to buy all the old albums when they split. Looking forward to seeing them live as I never have before. I remember I was studying for the leaving when they played the Olympia in 1998 (maybe it was 99), and I went on holidays with the folks down Wexford somewhere, ended up listening to the gig live on 2fm, very enjoyable it was too.

honru

Fall Out Boy doing Joy Division and Panic doing Pumpkins... man I love these scrappy new upstarts.

I been wondering what kind of setlists the reunited Pumpkins will do. All the hits plus some stuff from the new album? Or just a complete random selection of songs?

I'd be very satisfied with tracks from the Siamese Dream-era plus a nice peppering of cult classics.

Mushy

I'd be happy with anything they played except maybe Eye or Ava Adore. The Everlasting Gaze would be sweet. Some new stuff obviously, then the cult classics Id say.

Hey, I wont complain

PiE

I hope the new album is good enough to keep the playing of old songs to a minimum on the tour. But that's probably not possible, so I'll be happy as long as Machina/Machina II songs are few and far between.

lostexpectation

I was at their last gig at olympia it was okay,, tis sit down and I was up in the circus had some guest keyboard player doing a lot of stuff

never saw them otherwise in proper rocking out gig

what was the best non pumpkins pumpkins album?

would have loved to see corgan playing with new order.

pig on the wing

probably jimmy chamberlin's "life begins again", or zwan. yeah, zwan def.
both the james iha and the billy corgan solo albums suck.

honru

I'm probably one of the only ones who really liked Corgan's solo album and thought it was very promising. In fact, I'd be quite content if he continued on with a solo career versus Pumpkins Ver. 2.

pig on the wing

^ i disagree completely. what made most fans fall in love with the pumpkins is their grunge sound and crunching guitars and heavy drums, present on siamese dream, slightly less on mcis and gish. adore was a market failure cause it was too techno. machinas were also nearly as unpopular because the electric sound was still there.

now, zwan, that was great. they didn't use guitar effects for the grunge factor, but at least they didn't over-electrify it. same goes for "life begins again".

and that is my two cents.

honru

You disagree with a personal opinion I have?

Are you saying I'm in denial? :rolleyes:

John

I preferred Corgan's solo album to Zwan. Zwan was too... empty. I enjoy it and all but there's no weight to it. The solo album is good, better than Machina/Machina II but still not Corgan at his finest.

aidan24326

Did D'arcy not make any appearance at that final show?

Hard to know who'll be in the band now. Corgan and Chamberlin are confirmed. I'd imagine they might get Iha back aswell, he was playing with 'a perfect circle' for a while but they're finished now as far as I know.

Charm Offensive

It's very unlikely that Iha and D'Arcy will be anywhere near this reunion, but we live in hope!

rabbitinlights

I seen them in 1996 in the point.

AbusesToilets

If you want to see a bad cover of a SP song,then check this out.****ing painful http://youtube.com/watch?v=gXNqQjdML-U

Mushy

AbusesToilets, absolutely no need to remind me of that. TRuly disgusting. What makes that song, the vocals/lyrics. What ruined that cover...the vocals. Ya cant do one without the other here

AbusesToilets

My apologies for causing you such discomfort

John

Just because you are able to cover a song doesn't mean you should

Creamy Goodness

ahhh jaysus, meine ears.

"i'm the only chick out there today of all the bands"

whatever

pig on the wing

AbusesToilets wrote:

If you want to see a bad cover of a SP song,then check this out.****ing painful http://youtube.com/watch?v=gXNqQjdML-U

"yeah...i really didn't need to hear that."

so what are your opinions on the germany gig?

AbusesToilets

I'd really love see them,I'm still pissed that Zwan pulled out of <snip> all those years ago. I only hope that Billy is able to somewhat curb his love of using synthesizers on the new album

(please don't mention MCD events - John)

catch--22

AbusesToilets wrote:

I only hope that Billy is able to somewhat curb his love of using synthesizers on the new album

As long as it sounds like the Pumkins I don't mind what he does....it would be nice to see some progression in their sound after all the years! But it would be nice to hear a good loud album.....! *day dreams*

AbusesToilets

Sorry about the MCD comment,i forgot :P
I think he's definately capable of coming up with interesting new sounds.His solo album had some good tunes but i think he went a bit overboard with the snyth,but that said it's only my personal taste

pig on the wing

i hope they include a fucking guitar solo...which hasn't been done since siamese dream, and on one occasion, zwan.

selpher

Well Billy says the new albums called "zeitgeist" and its out on 07.07.07.
Can't wait.