Was this badly played?

connie147

Lots ot things to consider here.I'll give as much info as I can and I'd appreciate hand analysis please.

MTT online. €25,000 gtd. 130 runners @ €200. 30 players left, average stack 20k. money for 20, €8.5k for 1st down to €500 for 20th. Im sitting pretty with
44k in 5th position.
I havent been moved table since the start and I've been playing fairly tag.As the blinds have gone up I've loosened up.To my left on the table is a tight player(14), followed by chip leader with 58k(playing lots of pots and using his stack well) followed by uber tight player with 14k.

Blinds are now 500-1,000. Folded to me in the cut-off.I raise to 3,200 with
4h-5h,tighty folds,CL in the sb calls ,bb folds. Flop comes 4c-5c-9h, he checks,I bet5,500.He thinks and reraises to 14,500.(he's been making this play a lot and getting through ). I push for the rest of my stack and he calls with 44.

How many mistakes did I make here? Whos happy with the pf raise?Whos happy with the push? Who would have got away from it?

Thanks in advance for all analysis.
Oh, and Happy Xmas to all boardsters and their families.

BigCityBanker

Given the info on the player I am going broke here every time. Even without the info I am still going broke with this holding. A9 is as likely as 44. ul.

Hitman Actual

Preflop: From your description of the big-stacked SB, I don't think 45s is really a good stealing hand. I imagine he calls too often (and is probably aggressive pre- and/or on the flop) for it to be a profitable steal. So I think I prefer to have a better hand to be raising here (but then of course you're not really stealing, I suppose). You're very unlucky that he's two to your left, as it really limits your options in the late stages of a tourney.

On the flop, I doubt I get away from it. Your bet looks like a c-bet on a flop that probably missed you, so he may just be trying to take it away from you; or be semi-bluffing with a flush-draw, or whatever. I think it's push or fold on the flop when he raises you anyway; a call isn't great.The fact that you have the bottom two pair makes it less likely that he flopped a set, as he surely re-raises nines preflop.

So, marginal preflop for me, but not a lot you can do when you hit.

nicnicnic

the 45 raise is a style discussion some will some wont, post flop it's a cold deck unlucky & happy Xmas Connie

LuckyLloyd

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Solksjaer

The only thing I see here bad is his call with 44, from 500 to 3500. with only one in the pot. UL after that. I'd fold 4s to that raise with just 1 caller. (I know implied odds etc)

better luck next time, you 4 5 raising ganster.

kebabfest

PreFlop: You have loosened your image up , so more likely to get action. If this is the case you are better either
a) Folding this or
b) Not giving the big stack decent odds to call. i.e raise more
Flop: You arent getting away from this. The only person who is getting away from this after the pre-flop action is Rambo. And that is because he has killed the other bloke and is being hunted by federal agents throughout a forest area somewhere in mid west America...:eek:

connie147

kebabfest wrote:

PreFlop: You have loosened your image up , so more likely to get action. If this is the case you are better either
a) Folding this or
b) Not giving the big stack decent odds to call. i.e raise more
Flop: You arent getting away from this. The only person who is getting away from this after the pre-flop action is Rambo. And that is because he has killed the other bloke and is being hunted by federal agents throughout a forest area somewhere in mid west America...:eek:

Yes, I have loosened up my raising hands as we have to pick up some blinds to keep the stack intact. But they dont know that! Any time I've had to show a hand, I've had the goods. Because of his big stack and his fondness for playing hands, I havent been raising down past him too often,

connie147

kebabfest wrote:

PreFlop: You have loosened your image up , so more likely to get action. If this is the case you are better either
a) Folding this or
b) Not giving the big stack decent odds to call. i.e raise more
Flop: You arent getting away from this. The only person who is getting away from this after the pre-flop action is Rambo. And that is because he has killed the other bloke and is being hunted by federal agents throughout a forest area somewhere in mid west America...:eek:

Yes, I have loosened up my raising hands as we have to pick up some blinds to keep the stack intact. But they dont know that! Any time I've had to show a hand, I've had the goods. Because of his big stack and his fondness for playing hands, I havent been raising down past him too often.

I did think he was tring to buy the pot off me, but I got it wrong.

valor

you played it fine

kebabfest

connie147 wrote:

Yes, I have loosened up my raising hands as we have to pick up some blinds to keep the stack intact. But they dont know that! Any time I've had to show a hand, I've had the goods. Because of his big stack and his fondness for playing hands, I havent been raising down past him too often,

If you raise more frequently people become more suspicious. A bad time to raise if you think the BB is going to call. The whole point about the steal is that you are hoping everybody folds and if they dont you have a hand you can play with (I have no problems raising with suited connectors).
If who are fairly sure he isnt going to fold then there is no point doing.

However in this instance you were dead unlucky and on the flop your play was fine

" If you play with sh1t prepare to get shovelled " Doyle Brunson '06