Got a troubled teenager? Send them away to Tranquility Bay.

Pet

It's even better than military school, because they'll psychologically rewire your child through humiliation, beating, starvation and emotional manipulation. All for the bargain price of $40,000 a year.

I highly recommend you read this article thoroughly, from the link - no speed-reading. It is very long, but it will hold your attention, and it will shock and outrage you from the outset. Here are some excerpts.

Taken from here:

Were you to glance up from the deserted beach below, you might mistake Tranquility Bay for a rather exclusive hotel. The statuesque white property stands all alone on a sandy curve of southern Jamaica, feathered by palm trees, gazing out across the Caribbean Sea. You would have to look closer to see the guards at the wall. Inside, 250 foreign children are locked up. Almost all are American, but though kept prisoner, they were not sent here by a court of law. Their parents paid to have them kidnapped and flown here against their will, to be incarcerated for up to three years, sometimes even longer. They will not be released until they are judged to be respectful, polite and obedient enough to rejoin their families.

Corporal punishment is not practised, but staff administer 'restraint'. Officially it is deployed as the name suggests, to subdue a student who is out of control. However, former students say it is issued more often as a punishment. One explains: 'It's a completely degrading, painful experience. You could get it for raising your voice or pointing your finger. You know you're going to get it when three Jamaicans walk in and say, "Take off your watch." They pin you down in a five-point formation and that's when they start twisting and pulling your limbs, grinding your ankles.'

Let us say you are a new female assigned to Challenger family. You sleep with your family in one bare room, on beds which are pieces of wood on hinges hung on the walls. The day begins with a chaperone shouting at you to get up. You put on your uniform and flip-flops (harder to run away in) in silence and fold your bed against the wall. The room is now completely bare. After performing chores, the family is ordered to line up, for your family mother to do a head count.

There is no free time, and you are never alone. At 10pm everyone is in bed for Shut Down; the lights go off, and Tranquility is silent, save for waves crashing on to the beach below. Chaperones watch you through the night. And the next day is exactly the same. As is the next, and the next.

'Yep, identical,' says Kay. 'Exactly identical. Now you see,' he adds, with a grim nod of satisfaction, 'why kids are not happy here.'


A finely engineered reward-and-punishment system has been designed to effect this change. In order to graduate, students must advance from level 1 to 6, which they do by earning points. Every aspect of their conduct is graded daily and as their score accumulates, they climb through the levels and acquire privileges.

On level 1, students are forbidden to speak, stand up, sit down or move without permission. When they have earnt enough points to reach level 2, they may speak without permission; on level 3, they are granted a (staff-monitored) phone call home. Levels 4, 5 and 6 enjoy significantly higher status. In addition to enjoying privileges, such as (strictly limited and approved) clothing, jewellery, music and snacks, they are employed for three days a week as a member of staff, and must discipline other students by issuing 'consequences'.


The strategy of coercing children to rewire themselves is the concept Kay is most proud of, for he believes it places troubled teenagers' redemption in their own hands. The choice is theirs.

When most children first arrive they find it difficult to believe that they have no alternative but to submit. In shock, frightened and angry, many simply refuse to obey. This is when they discover the alternative. Guards take them (if necessary by force) to a small bare room and make them (again by force if necessary) lie flat on their face, arms by their sides, on the tiled floor. Watched by a guard, they must remain lying face down, forbidden to speak or move a muscle except for 10 minutes every hour, when they may sit up and stretch before resuming the position. Modest meals are brought to them, and at night they sleep on the floor of the corridor outside under electric light and the gaze of a guard. At dawn they resume the position.

This is known officially as being 'in OP' - Observation Placement - and more casually as 'lying on your face'. Any level student can be sent to OP, and it automatically demotes them to level 1 and zero points. Every 24 hours, students in OP are reviewed by staff, and only sincere and unconditional contrition will earn their release. If they are unrepentant? 'Well, they get another 24 hours.'

One boy told me he'd spent six months in OP.

I didn't think this could be true, but it transpired this was not even exceptional. 'Oh no,' says Kay. 'The record is actually held by a female.' On and off, she spent 18 months lying on her face.


...Jim Mozingo got the result he wanted. Twenty months after sending his son Josh away, he arrived from North Carolina to collect him. Mozingo has four sons, an insurance company, and is a good example of a typical Tranquility parent. Divorced from Josh's mother, busy, wealthy, he found Tranquility by typing 'defiant teen' into the internet.

'I tell you, I was at my wits' end with my son. We'd tried military school, but he got kicked out. He never got into trouble with the police. He was one step from that. What it was is, he was going through this identity crisis. Peer pressure. Pot got involved.'

Drugs feature high among reasons for choosing Tranquility, although addicts who need detox are not accepted. Running away from home, sleeping around, or being expelled from school are also typical. Some kids have been in trouble with the police. Others had been in court, where their parents persuaded the judge to let them send their child to Tranquility, rather than issue his own punishment. Other students were sent here for wearing inappropriate clothes, using bad language, or hanging around with the wrong sort of friends.





..These are classic Tranquility-parent feelings. For example, Mozingo believes his son had a serious drug problem before coming to Jamaica and Josh agrees. What was he taking? 'I was doing marijuana. I was doing cigarettes. Alcohol.' He looks disgusted with himself. 'Mostly, though, I stole prescription pills from my grandmother.'

Also striking is the assumption parents make of entitlement to their child's affection, as though this is a legal right. 'She's a neat kid, she really is,' a former student's mother says. 'She just didn't like us.' But now, 'I don't believe she's lying to me any more, and that's a neat feeling.'

A clearer picture of this family culture emerges from conversation with a group of levels 5 and 6.

'Oh, my relationship with my family was pretty bad. I just went to my room and avoided my parents. There was always arguments and stuff,' offers Pete. 'I was very angry with my parents, their divorce had a big influence on me. I'm not angry with them now, though. Not at all. I mean, I look at this as a punishment, obviously, but I deserved it. How I acted towards my parents.'

Susie is 16, from New York, and here 'because of having sex. Not going to school. It was my attitude. It wasn't, like, drugs. The problem was, me and my mom, we just didn't have a relationship. We could say how was your day, that was about it.' The possibility that this was a normal phase is adamantly rejected by Susie.

That without Tranquility they would be dead is an article of faith among all the students.

I ask one how they would have died. 'What?'

It soon becomes apparent that despite all having been programmed with the script of their near death, no one has paused to wonder how it would have happened. But if they hadn't been dead, they would have been poor, a destiny they have been taught to consider more or less the same thing. 'Tranquility showed me that I'd have been a minimum wager,' Nick says. 'This place saved my life.'

The students all describe their pre-programme selves using the same subjective descriptions, such as 'ignorant' or 'disrespectful', as if these were neutral adjectives, like 'brown'. Their delivery, too, is disturbingly similar, for the words come out like empty envelopes, emotionally vacant.

'When I was sent here I was very upset,' Kate tells me. Her voice is careful but dull. 'My parents didn't tell me I was coming here. They tricked me.' She smiles a faraway, inscrutable smile. 'I had to have the police escort me on to the plane.'

How do you feel about it now? 'I think it's great. The fact that I changed my life is great.' And what's your relationship like with them now? 'It's great.' What spark Kate and others have is lit only by Kay and the chaperones, towards whom a faintly flirtatious electricity seems to flicker. These children do not just obey rules. They seem to have been psychologically rewired.

Every day, each family has a meeting, taken by its 'family representative', the staff member who reports to their parents in a weekly phone call.

Challenger family's meeting is the first I attend, and has the appearance of group therapy. The girls sit in a circle on the floor, with an hour to stand up and 'share', or offer 'feedback'.

The first to her feet is frightened that her old problem of anorexia is returning. 'I feel really disgusting the whole time. I hate it so much because I feel so imperfect. I just feel so insecure, I didn't think this was going to come back, I don't know what to do.' She casts about, anguish bubbling out incoherently. 'Like, if I was to date a guy, and I was always hating myself, well that would push him away. Being alone really scares me a lot, but I know that's how I'm going to end up.' Now she is crying hard, gulping air, talking randomly. 'Like, if I get a Cat 2, I feel like I'm letting everyone down.'

After 10 minutes she sits down. But there is something odd about the atmosphere - hot grief has met ice-cool air. Hands go up for feedback.

'No one else is thinking about you, why do you think anyone notices you?'

'Don't you get it? The purpose of being here, and getting consequences, is to teach you how to pick yourself up. If you don't mess up, you go home.'

I am completely taken aback. As they rattle out their spiteful attacks some sound bored, like waitresses running through a menu, but others are imaginatively vicious. After the next has shared, a girl stands up and points at her victim's acne.

'Why is it that you feel so comfortable wallowing in your own crap? That's why you have that stuff on your face. It's because you're hurting yourself on the inside.' The family rep looks on with approval.

The rep for Renaissance takes a more pro-active role in her meeting. Her senior boys need no help on the feedback front - 'You've got a really bad attitude. I've talked to you about that before. You're lazy. That's all you are, man' - and so on, but she pulls a coup de grâce towards the end.

A boy stands and clearly thinks just once he is going to come off best. There had been a dispute over his 'exit plan', the arrangement for his imminent return home. He had said he was not going to live with his mother and staff thought he was. His mother had now written to confirm that he was absolutely correct.

'So I just wanted to make sure,' he says, with biting diplomacy, 'that there were no other "misunderstandings" that need to be cleared up.'

His family rep stares hard at him hard, smarting. Defeat seems inescapable. The silence lengthens, and her eyes narrow.

'You know what? I'm going to review your exit plan. It will have to go on hold.'

'Miss! Miss, no!' He is aghast, panic-stricken. 'You can't mean that? Why are you punishing me?'

She studies him. 'I am not punishing you. You just gave me the idea. You have punished yourself.'

Why would students want to stand up and share, or give this kind of feedback? Scott Burkett, a student who left two years ago, explains: 'You can only move forward in the programme if you share intimate details of your life. If you don't share, you're not "working the programme", and they'll take away your points. In a meeting, your rep will suddenly pick on you and say, "Right, I want to hear something private, right now. Come on. Or do you want to go to OP?" And I'm going through this inventory in my head real fast, thinking what will hurt least to say? Because you tell her secrets and then she uses them against you later. Like, say a guy mentions problems with his girlfriend, a month later she'll have him up, and she's saying, "You don't think she's waiting, do you?" She's laughing at you behind your back. "How many of your friends do you think she's sleeping with right now?" So I start telling her something, and she just says, "I'm not listening to that, that's not deep," and she calls for the guard to take me to OP. And I've got until he gets in the room to give her something better, or he's taking me.'

Points and privileges are awarded to students who tell on each other. If you don't tell on someone for breaking a rule and get found out, you lose points. 'There is zero trust,' Scott explains. 'You can't trust anyone. It's not us against them. It's everyone against you.' Scott remembers a new boy being caught with incriminating used tissues; masturbation is strictly forbidden. 'And they got him up in front of everyone right after dinner, and the upper-level kids just ripped into him, this little 13-year-old kid. It was kind of the entertainment for the night. That's what I mean about breaking kids.'

Marksie

Pet wrote:

It's even better than military school, because they'll psychologically rewire your child through humiliation, beating, starvation and emotional manipulation. All for the bargain price of $40,000 a year.

I highly recommend you read this article thoroughly, from the link - no speed-reading. It is very long, but it will hold your attention, and it will shock and outrage you from the outset. Here are some excerpts.

Public school has been doing that for years

slipss

Bah, that place is too good for them if you ask me, there lousy no good delinquints and they need straightening out. I mean that Josh kid was involved in pot for gods sake and that Susie girl was only sixteen and she was having sex and not going to school sometimes! Psysical and psychological torture and imprisonment is the only way there ever going to grow into decent perfectly balanced adults.

Stargal

They should have a place like that for the parents. That would sort 'em out good an' proper

biko

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*shoots my brother*

I don't have 40'000:(

ScumLord

Their parents paid to have them kidnapped and flown here against their will, to be incarcerated for up to three years, sometimes even longer.

:eek: LOL.. I wish I could read it all

That's the craziest thing I've ever heard, surely those kids will have a case for false imprisionment, cruel and unusual punishment and so much more when the brainwashing wears off.

John

That is absolutely disgusting. So effectively, this is a concentration camp for parents with too much money and too little sense to send their "problem" (read "normal") kids to be abused into submission and brainwashed into being robots. This is the sort of thing Orwell and Huxley warned about. I am really appalled at this.

theluckyduck

A new low for lazy people..... Some people should be neutered, Alot cheaper than 40,000!!!

the_syco

This will make you a robot. Military school will at least make you a usefull robot.

DaBreno

Does it have to be kids? Id gladly remortgage for funds if Anyone could be nominated...

Black Swan

Iraq III candidates?

Terry

am i the only one who supports this type of treatment?
i could have done with this when i was a teenager. it might have kept me out of jail and really fixed my messed up head.
i used to have sex and smoke pot when i was a teenager. i think this would have stopped me doing both.

Pet

julep wrote:

am i the only one who supports this type of treatment?
i could have done with this when i was a teenager. it might have kept me out of jail and really fixed my messed up head.
i used to have sex and smoke pot when i was a teenager. i think this would have stopped me doing both.

Read through the article, slowly, especially the last 3 paragraphs in the quotebox above. I'm all for instilling discipline in wayward teenagers, but this is not some military boot camp where teens build bonfires and do a bit of exercise in the wilderness. It's mental and psychological torture, and it's absolutely appalling.

Terry

i did read the entire article and i find that i completely agree with the tactics used.
these kids are out of control and need the discipline doled out by this camp. it's about time someone stepped up and sorted out these paraiahs. they are the lowest of the low and deserve all the punishment they get. it sickens me when teenagers partake in sex and smoking pot and then try to blame their peers for their problems. they themselvelves are to blame and they need to be punished. my children will be sent there if they step out of line and i know it will prevent them from commiting the crimes that they would commit without the discipline given to them by this camp.
bring it on, i say.

I think he was taking the piss.

OT:That is pretty bad.I've done alot worse than most of those kids since I have gone to college.

randylonghorn

I'm sorry, Julep, but no support here, certainly.

To be honest, this type of extreme behaviourist / Pavlovian approach scares the bejaysus out of me. It's the stuff of nightmares, and has in the past been the subject of interest and experimentation by such kindly organisations as the Gestapo, KGB and AVH ... and probably a lot of the other secret services, etc., whose records haven't as yet seen the same level of scrutiny.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that this place has been set up outside the US jurisdiction, it would have been shut down in the States, and I suspect even the mainstream "tough love" enthusiasts would be unwilling to come out and defend them. The parallels between Tranquillity Bay and Guantanamo Bay are frightening ... even the "observation placement" treatment rings a bell.

Given that I have never been in either jail or Tranquillity Bay, I'm not really in a position to make an informed judgement as to which is worse. If I really had to make a choice, though, I suspect I might take my chances on jail rather than this mind-altering hellhole. I might at least have a chance of emerging as a fully human individual.

The type of treatment described here, on the other hand, is designed to dehumanise and de-individualise the inmates ... to turn them into robots, as a number of people have said.

I would be very pessimistic about how these kids will turn out in later life ... I would not be surprised to learn that most have difficulties forming real relationships, that they themselves make terrible parents, and that a number end up back in much more serious trouble with the law. A few will probably manage to de-programme themselves, or will seek help to do so.

I sincerely hope I'm being too pessimistic!

.

randylonghorn

Deleted User wrote:

I think he was taking the piss.

After his second post, I think you're right!!! And I farking fell for it ... doh!!!
Where's that Homer avatar gone?!

Terry

randylonghorn wrote:

I'm sorry, Julep, but no support here, certainly.

To be honest, this type of extreme behaviourist / Pavlovian approach scares the bejaysus out of me. It's the stuff of nightmares, and has in the past been the subject of interest and experimentation by such kindly organisations as the Gestapo, KGB and AVH ... and probably a lot of the other secret services, etc., whose records haven't as yet seen the same level of scrutiny.

I think you are going a bit too far by comparing tranquility bay to organisation that have murdered people.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that this place has been set up outside the US jurisdiction, it would have been shut down in the States, and I suspect even the mainstream "tough love" enthusiasts would be unwilling to come out and defend them. The parallels between Tranquillity Bay and Guantanamo Bay are frightening ... even the "observation placement" treatment rings a bell.

again, no comparison can be made. the nice folks at tranquility bay are simpley offering a service to parents of uncontrollable teen. these kids are not terrorists, but could well turn out to be if they were left to their own devices. remember the oklahomo bombing. that guy could have done with a spell in tranquility bay when he was a teen.

Given that I have never been in either jail or Tranquillity Bay, I'm not really in a position to make an informed judgement as to which is worse. If I really had to make a choice, though, I suspect I might take my chances on jail rather than this mind-altering hellhole. I might at least have a chance of emerging as a fully human individual.

well, there you go. you have been to neither. i can tell you that jail is no picnic. i would prefer tranqulity bay any day.

The type of treatment described here, on the other hand, is designed to dehumanise and de-individualise the inmates ... to turn them into robots, as a number of people have said.

well, if it keeps them off the pot and stops teen pregnancies, then it seems like a fantastic idea to me.

I would be very pessimistic about how these kids will turn out in later life ... I would not be surprised to learn that most have difficulties forming real relationships, that they themselves make terrible parents, and that a number end up back in much more serious trouble with the law. A few will probably manage to de-programme themselves, or will seek help to do so.

I sincerely hope I'm being too pessimistic!

I think they would make great parents. they would also become really productive members of a society on the brink of complete breakdown. we need more places like tranquility bay to deal with the ever growing lower classes in our society. we could have our very own on spike island. it could help deal with the scum of Irish society and we could all feel safe walking the streets at night.
I, for one, look forward to the day that places like tranquility bay are commonplace around the world and replace youth detention centres. we may see a much better Ireland for our grandchildren and their children. it is no longer safe to walk the streets at night, so maybe we need somewhere to put these potential single parents and pot heads in their place.

The_Dazzler wrote:

I think he was taking the piss.

no, I wasn't.

Seriously!:eek:

If you had not made those mistakes when you were younger.Then you would be a completely different person today.You would probably be timid and shy.Definitely not the requirements to be an after hours mod.:D Would you not say your personality would be a lot more dull after going to tranquiliy island?

Would strict discipline by your parents not hve the the same effect?

randylonghorn

No, Julep, I am NOT walking back into your parlour!

To bed, perhaps to dream ... and hopefully not of Tranquillity bloody Island!

Terry

Deleted User wrote:

Seriously!:eek:

If you had not made those mistakes when you were younger.Then you would be a completely different person today.You would probably be timid and shy.Definitely not the requirements to be an after hours mod.:D Would you not say your personality would be a lot more dull after going to tranquiliy island?

Would strict discipline by your parents not hve the the same effect?

well the thing is, my mother died when i was seven and my father turned to the bottle after that, so i didn't really have parents to supervise me. somewhere like tranquility bay would have been perfect for me.
I honestly think something like that would be perfect for a lot of todays youth.

FranchisePlayer

This is just mental:eek: .
It says a couple of people got sent there for using bad langauge.

Terry

FranchisePlayer wrote:

This is just mental:eek: .
It says a couple of people got sent there for using bad langauge.

well, if it instills good christian values in these kids, then it's well worth it.
the fact that they are using bad language just means that they are susceptible to the other dangers of the world around them and are likely to end up on a downward spiral. good on their parents for getting in there before any further harm is done.

Piste

We all of us are susceptible to the dangers of the world and society! A couple of uses of the F and C words does not a terrorist make. I think my parents wish I would rebel a bit more so they could complain about being the parents of a "typical teen", but after reading that article I'm glad I'm so ****ing well balanced.

Terry

yes, we are all susceptible and look how it has turned out.
we are a nation of drug abusers and alcoholics who are bitter about the hand life has deal them and see the rest of the world as being better than us.
a nation getting further and further in debt and more and more reliant on the needs of others. it's a complete and utter disgrace.

Sangre

Bold Julep, trolling his own forum.

Terry

not trolling. playing devil's advocate.

Piste

julep wrote:

yes, we are all susceptible and look how it has turned out.
we are a nation of drug abusers and alcoholics who are bitter about the hand life has deal them and see the rest of the world as being better than us.
a nation getting further and further in debt and more and more reliant on the needs of others. it's a complete and utter disgrace.

Speak for yourself! I am not a drug abuser (the *occasional* joint is not abuse), neither am I an alcoholic, and I am most certainly not bitter about the hand life dealt me, and even if I were, I think some place like tranquility bay would do far more harm than good.

MrJoeSoap

julep wrote:

well, if it instills good christian values in these kids, then it's well worth it.

Why 'Christian' values? Why not just morals?

ScumLord

I can see where Juleps coming from but this is a step too far, military school will instill values and teamwork. This just brainwashes kids to do what their told and not think for themselfs. It must go against Human rights.

andrew

I'm just suprised that more kids don't end up committing suscide, i know thats probably what i'd end up doing anyway. sound like my idea of complete hell.

Sangre

julep wrote:

not trolling. playing devil's advocate.

preaching to the choir!

jimi_t

julep wrote:

I, for one, look forward to the day that places like tranquility bay are commonplace around the world and replace youth detention centres. we may see a much better Ireland for our grandchildren and their children. it is no longer safe to walk the streets at night, so maybe we need somewhere to put these potential single parents and pot heads in their place.

When, 2084?

I'm all for a suitable solution but this is simply not it. This is just simple, brute force thuggery. Strip the "delinquents" of their humanity and send them home either quivering messes or ticking timebombs. You say it's the fault of the individual, but isn't it self-evident that if "it is no longer safe to walk the streets at night" then it indicates a widespread societal problem? Do you not believe that a preventitive rather than an interventitive approach would be the most beneficial in the longterm?

pokerwidow

Julep, sorry to hear about your mum. Just maybe that was the reason you rebelled in your teens. And now you are out the other side but didn't you learn alot along the way. I think you are being very hard on yourself and other teenagers.

I would prefer my own three to go through the teen years and have fun rather than taking up drugs etc in their twenties. I am just saying I would prefer them to get it out of their systems and then get on with life.

As far as Tranquility Bay is concerned I would never pay that amount of money (or any amount) to get someone else to do my parenting. They are my (our) children and we are responsible for them.

qwertplaywert

q-what happens if the kids NEVER change or obey in thier?
what age do they get out at?

if i was one of them,i would disobey,get out when im of age and sue there ass

Cake Fiend

Sangre wrote:

Bold Julep, trolling his own forum.

You may mock, but there's truth to his argument.

Why, I started swearing a few years ago and just the other day, I shot a man.

NirdleBug

Tranquility Bay?
More like Guantanamo Bay.

Seanmcn

qwertplaywert wrote:

q-what happens if the kids NEVER change or obey in thier?
what age do they get out at?

if i was one of them,i would disobey,get out when im of age and sue there ass

I totally aggree with you. If my parents did that to me, first, im going to attack whoever trys to take me. No matter how out numbered i am. Second. I think I heard plane? HIJACK TIME! And third, if i was there, im not obeying. I wont be brainwashed into being a mindless puppet. Places like that make me sick. The fact that someone could do that to their own child is disgraceful. I think parents who send their children there should be locked up. And god, if I was one of those kids. I would sue not only the place when I got out, but my parents too. The only parents in my opinion who would send their kids to a place like that are the ones that can't handle it themselves. AKA, they have problems. So they should deal with their problems! :cool: Anything for an excuse.

I read about that place a couple years ago, it's horrific.

dSTAR

julep wrote:

well, if it instills good christian values in these kids, then it's well worth it...

Doubly scary!

Dutchology

If they were raised properly in the first place, then there would be no need for such extreme measures (and I'm not saying that there is, I find this disgusting).

Every child/teenager/young adult will go through phases where they are most certainly "less than perfect" behaviour and morals wise, but as long as morals, values, discipline and respect are instilled in a child from a very early age, most children, as I did, will grow out of these phases and become a decent member of society.

I have great respect for the way my parents brought me up, and I have been mostly (:p) well behaved and always polite, the same goes for my two younger sisters. In the future, I hope to raise my children in a similar way to which my parents raised us, and that this will suffice to sprout a few more decent human beings in the world.

"Manipulation"? My f00kin a55. This Kay fellow seems to have some deep seated issues that may need seeing to, and in his case, I would suggest "manipulation", twist those limbs and don't stop, see how he likes it! Pull the trigger on his own kids, pah! He needs to be locked up, along with his employees and the parents sending their kids there. More money than sense, the snip is the answer. If you can't handle your own children, don't have any, one should not need an Adolf-wannabe to raise one's young...

My input for the day...

/me goes to have a smoke, g'day to you all

c - 13

If that grates on you have a read of the "Appreciation Letters" on Tranquality Bays website the rest of the site is worth a read too.

Dutchology

#Elites wrote:

but look at the article again..some kids where sent there because of Bad language?! and the other girl who had perfect school records, was going to study law then she got a boyfriend but the parents didnt approve..

thats hardly the need to send them of to this "camp"

I know, I read it word for word. I completely disagree with the whole thing. Whether they are sent there for sneezing or commiting another mortal sin (:rolleyes:) is, to me, irrelevant.

Dutchology

By following "Discovery" and "Focus" I have more and more respect for my child

I would hope that what with the child being, essentially, YOUR CHILD - you would respect it without having to send it to this "camp"?!

Thank you for allowing our son to be in a safe environment so that he does not hurt himself or others.

But it's ok for others to hurt him...?

I appreciate the fact my child has a safe place to learn right from wrong.

Safe...?

I can't read any more of those letters. Those "parents" sicken me...