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Mistakes Ive made a few but then again...

  • 19-12-2006 12:10pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭


    ....too many to count

    Jackpot Round of Each Sunday Night

    Seat 1 Agressive Player Hard to read 500 Euro
    Seat 2 Best Player i have ever seen, very agressive and knows when to fold 1200 Euro
    Seat 3 Decent player...good bluffer..hard to read 400 Euro BUTTON
    Seat 4
    Seat 5 Lady Villian..getting some good cards and decent flops 800 Euro
    Seat 6 Me..600 Euro
    Seat 7 TAG Player 200 Euro
    Seat 8
    Seat 9 Very Loose Player...Running hot lately 700 Euro


    I enjoy this game in the Jackpot and play it regularly..i have had a few good nights leading up to Sunday ( Friday +1200 Saturday +900 ) Anyway i bought in for 100 and have picked up a few pots and have a good table image, not that it matters much in this case.

    I get 8h 9d Jh Qd in the big blind
    The actions goes raise to 3, reraise to 15 and raise to 45 with both myself and SB calling. Should i have repotted it? The table seesm to be calling everything preflop.

    Anyway 5 players call preflop so the pot is 225 Euro

    Flop: 6d 7s 8c
    Checked all the way round!! Damn..i should have bet

    Turn: 5s

    SB bets 200
    Folded all the way round...hard to believe...there is normally so much gambool at this table

    Ok so i folded a the second nuts and villian showed 4 9 J K..i cant remember the suits..she didnt even have a hand

    Ok so my questions:

    How badly did i play preflop. Should i have repotted it, considering the table seems to call everything?

    How badly did i play on the flop. Should i have led the betting to see where i was or would i still be in the dark if my bet was called all the way round?

    How bad was my fold on the turn. Should i shove with the straight and the wrap ( calling is not an option considering my position and stack size).

    How does my hand stand up against the nut straight with one card to come?

    Is the format of this post okay???


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Preflop is standard. Repotting it there would be pretty bad. I would have called the turn for sure, then decided what to do depending on the action after me and the river.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I would always repop that hand preflop and I'd definitely call the turn. You still have 300+ behind on the turn so I disagree that calling is not an option. I think it's the best one.

    I think call > fold > shove


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    ianmc38 wrote:
    I would always repop that hand preflop and I'd definitely call the turn. You still have 300+ behind on the turn so I disagree that calling is not an option. I think it's the best one.

    I think call > fold > shove

    Ian, look at the preflop action, why would you 4-bet here with this hand OOP? Thats madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Ian, look at the preflop action, why would you 4-bet here with this hand OOP? Thats madness.

    Indubitably. I thought he made it 45 after someone had made it 15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    The biggest mistake seems to be you sitting at this table.

    From your description of each of the players it sounds to me like you think you're the worst player at the table.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Who is sitting in Seat 2?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    ntlbell wrote:
    The biggest mistake seems to be you sitting at this table.

    From your description of each of the players it sounds to me like you think you're the worst player at the table.

    Its a pity you werent there..at least then there would be one player worse than me

    JUst kidding!!!:D

    There are at least 3 players worse than me...most players tend to stay far too long and get worse as the night goes along


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    ntlbell wrote:
    The biggest mistake seems to be you sitting at this table.

    From your description of each of the players it sounds to me like you think you're the worst player at the table.

    I dunno, villain, loosey goosey and 2 unamed seats seem like possible value.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Preflop is fine I think, def check flop. It is nearly a super flop for you, but it isn't really. Turn, you should have called I think to see a river which you check unless it is a T that isn't Ts, and call unless it pairs the board, is a 9 or else a spade, but even then if you are against an idiot you might want to call on some of these too sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Just a quick note. Usually there is some value in the Jackpot Omaha game but it's definitely one of the better standard games in Dublin. There's an English guy with kind of browny/blonde hair who plays the Fitz Omaha game as well who is very good, Chinese Ken, Noelly, some guy with a cap, think he's Irish always appears for the bigger Omaha games at the side events of the EPT etc, Conor Doyle and a few other good players.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    ianmc38 wrote:
    There's an English guy with kind of browny/blonde hair who plays the Fitz Omaha game as well who is very good
    Sounds like Snowy who used to work in the Fitz to me. He is a very good Omaha player.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    5starpool wrote:
    Preflop is fine I think, def check flop. It is nearly a super flop for you, but it isn't really. Turn, you should have called I think to see a river which you check unless it is a T that isn't Ts, and call unless it pairs the board, is a 9 or else a spade, but even then if you are against an idiot you might want to call on some of these too sometimes.

    Even now i am saying to myself that i need to grow a set of balls. What was i expecting..the only better flop for me would have been the absolute nutleys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Killme00 wrote:
    Its a pity you werent there..at least then there would be one player worse than me

    During the Omaha rounds this wouldn't be far from the truth.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Killme00 wrote:
    Even now i am saying to myself that i need to grow a set of balls. What was i expecting..the only better flop for me would have been the absolute nutleys.
    You have one pair and an open ender, only one end of which will give you the nuts on the turn. It isn't a great flop, and would be a mistake to bet from the BB I think, but considering the lack of flop action, the turn card is a great one for you, and probably only the flush draw here slows me down, but I still call it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Ok i definitely should have at least called. Is there any merit to a reraise here..am i only getting called by a better hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    I would lead a blank river too.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    It depends on the level of caution, but unless the river is a scare card it is highly likely that you have the best hand and will put your last 300 into the by now pot of 625, which won't get called by anything less than a set, and even a set shouldn't call.

    Meh, mostly I would just call the turn. I can't decide whether it'd be better to get it in here and likely get called (but you prob wouldn't by that hand they showed as it turned out) or else play it cautious.

    Aggression and spots like this is something I have to work on in my Omaha game too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Ok guys, thanks for the comments, i will more than likely seek out a cash game this evening with renewed vigour and reinforced testicular fortitude

    :eek:


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