$.25/.50 HH River Decision (6-Max PS)

Dantes

PokerStars Game #7454057182: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/12/15 - 14:17:50 (ET)
Table 'Hadar' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: LordLudo ($72.65 in chips)
Seat 2: Don Dimitrio ($11.35 in chips)
Seat 4: TheOldCrow ($123.25 in chips)
Seat 5: carsrus17 ($36.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($80.90 in chips)
carsrus17: posts small blind $0.25
Hero: posts big blind $0.50
Stef-TA: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kh Jc]
LordLudo: calls $0.50
Don Dimitrio: folds
TheOldCrow: folds
carsrus17: raises $1.50 to $2
Hero: calls $1.50
LordLudo: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [3h Jd 8h]
carsrus17: bets $5.50
Hero: calls $5.50
LordLudo: calls $5.50
*** TURN *** [3h Jd 8h] [5h]
carsrus17: checks
Hero: checks
LordLudo: bets $10
carsrus17: folds
Hero: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [3h Jd 8h 5h] [3c]
Hero: checks
LordLudo: bets $19
Hero: ?

Would appreciate any comments on my play and what to do here...
Villain hasnt really got out of line so far. He is tight but aggressive (17/8 over 134 hands). I am finding it hard to put him on AJ because of the flat call pre-flop. He def doesn't have JJ. 88 and 55 are possibilities, not sure he would just call the flop bet with a set though... The flush is also a possibility, I know I only have top two pair here but something tells me its good...
I would think I would be perceived as TAGish.
Thanks.

valor

First off, fold pre-flop

I think I would play turn the same and call river for pure pot odds

breadmonkey

I'm certainly no expert but I would say that playing a huge pot with a weak holding against a TAG villain that hasn't gotten out of line is asking for trouble.

valor

On second thoughts, I dont mind a river fold. I think its pretty neutral EV

phantom_lord

Fold pf. Can't imagine he'd be betting j10/qj here. Either he has a busted straight draw(does he bet his draws?), or more likely has a flush.

Mr. Flibble

I would fold pre-flop, failing that the turn and failing that the river. You really only beat an outright bluff on the river. JQ and JT are not all that likely.

Scotty #

He's betting $19 into a $42.50 pot which would suggest to me he wants a call. Its costing you $19 to call a $51 pot so your getting about 2.5:1 which means you have to be right here 40% of the time just to break even.

Do you think your ahead here 40% of the time with just top pair??
I don't think villain has AJ but flush is very likely so its a fold from me.

Personally... I would have raised the flop.

In hands like this, information on your opponent is critical.

Dantes

Thanks for your comments, looks like I played this really badly.
I don't think I should fold to the pf raiser as he's a pest (72/48 over 50 hands!!), his raises really mean nothing, forgot to mention that. what do you think?

phantom: The villain will bet his draws, and is a big fan of middle SC's, often calls pf raises with them.

I called here in a moment of madness and he showed 9sTs (fantastic read phantom), for a really well played bluff, I do feel bad, no really!

Scotty: what kind of raise would you go for on the flop? 3x?

Guess I got lot more lernding to do...

[nicK]

this hand was played too passively in my opinion.. depending on my image though, i would be either reraising preflop or folding..

or.. reraise flop, bet turn, fold to reraise..

Scotty #

Dantes wrote:

Scotty: what kind of raise would you go for on the flop? 3x?

you should raise enough so that a drawing player is not getting the correct odds to call.

dougee19

what did you actually decide to do?
cant actually see him on anything apart from a flush or 9-10, either ur way behind or way ahead me thinks.

did you see his hand?

Goodluck2me

i dont like the raise on the flop. he is turning his hand into a bluff really. flod pre flop def, you still dont want to take on an agressive player with KJo, you will always have tough decisions with this hand. you kept the pot fairly small by just calling and any hands you beat are likely to have stayed to the river, you can call the river for value imo. wouldnt like it though.