Dodgy work permit issue?

thehotstepper

Hi everyone, I am letting a guy go next week who I gave a work permit to. I got a copy of the work permit in the post, he should also have one but tells me he doesnt. He is going back to africa this Christmas for a holiday and wants me to give him my copy to 'make customs clearance easier'. He says with it he wont get any hassle waiting.
My worry is that there might be some kind of scam or dodginess in him having both copies of the work permit. Anybody think theres something fishy about this?

damnyanks

Give him a photo copy? Won't his passport have something in ti saying he has a visa? I know people from Asia who are on a work visa (UK though) it says who they are and what class of work visa they have.

tHE vAGGABOND

yea, dont give him the original, tbh dont give anyone who works for you any original documents tbh

He should have some form of stamp on his passport. Americans in work here have something along those lines. I would therefore think its the law of the land. Your 'green card' is actually a stamp on your passport, allowing you to pass in and out of the country with ease..

Also, If you got a copy in the post, so did he, tbh tell him to look harder..

damnyanks

Or tell him to get onto the government - or you get onto the government adn check it all out.

But as backwards as the country is I'm sure they have some form of record that he can legally re-enter.

decob

does sound a little suspect. Best bet would be to ring whatever government department issues the work permit and ask their advice or even the garda immigration bureau (since they would most likely know of what scams are tried).

Stan06

decob wrote:

does sound a little suspect. Best bet would be to ring whatever government department issues the work permit and ask their advice or even the garda immigration bureau (since they would most likely know of what scams are tried).

E-eh... doesn't this sound a bit paranoid? First of all, why does _employer_ need a copy of WP at all? WP - is issued by the Ministry of Trade and must be submitted to the person it was issued for. AFAIK the only situation when WorkPermit is required - it's for the employee to submit it in his local consulate to get a visa stamp in his passport. And, probably, once a year to re-submit the case for WP extension. Employer only has his copy of working contract... and it's a responsibility of employee to prove his legal status. And the only proof is visa stamp in the passport. So I do not see any reasons for employer's concerns. Give the guy photocopy of that WP if you are so afraid of... of what, actually? Employer has all legal advantages, and that foreigner is totally vulnerable and completely dependent on his employer.
And anoter part - the guy _does not need_ that damned WP when re-entering the country. He has a valid visa, and this visa is a legal permit to cross the borders for re-entry. Period. In case border control officer is the same paranoid, he can always, first, take a look at WP photocopy, secondly, give a call to the employer to verify the status of suspect.
Why making the big deal?

karangka

Hi,

Work permit is issued to employer, not employee. The employee then will need to bring the work permit to GNIB for registration. Once he gets his card, he'll have no problem with immigration when entering the country. GNIB will also stamp his passport.

Work permit is not transferable. I don't see any problem in either giving him the permit or not giving him.

I'm under work permit scheme too and so far no hassle when entering and leaving the country if I have my GNIB residence card and stamp on my passport.

Stan06

Hi Karangka, since you are on WP you definitely know this better... but I always thought WP is issued _to the employee_ by request from employer. I thought WP, when issued initially, is posted to employee, the employee use it for getting visa and _than_ for registering at GNIB... well, anyway AFAIK it must be in posession of employee, not employer?

karangka

I've just got my WP renewal last week and it was issued to my employer, same as the last time.

WP= permit to employ non-national. Not a non-national permit to work. Thats why employer must pay for the WP application, not the employee.

There'll be some new arrangements to reflect new Employement Permits Bill 2005 which was passed last June. Expect some changes in early next year.

Stan06

karangka, I'm really thankful for explanations. But, anyway - I think that stupid indian (or chineese or whoever he was) guy anyway has nothing to be afraid of if he has a valid "Viosa" stamp in his "Ausweis"