Wii: Whats the Big Deal?

RadioGirl · 07-12-2006 2:58pm #1

I've spent the afternoon trying to figure out:

a) Why anyone in their right mind would go out in the wind and rain for something they could get at a later date.

b) What the big deal about the Wii is.

Can anyone enlighten me?

bk · 07-12-2006 3:04pm

RadioGirl wrote:

I've spent the afternoon trying to figure out:

a) Why anyone in their right mind would go out in the wind and rain for something they could get at a later date.

Well a lot of people would like to get one for christmas, to play over the holiday break. It is going to be very hard to get one before christmas unless you ordered over two months ago.

RadioGirl wrote:

b) What the big deal about the Wii is.

Can anyone enlighten me?

I use to play a lot of games when I was younger, but I've stopped over the last few years as they have just gotten boring and repetitive. However I recently played the Wii at the RDS Toys for Boys Show and it is just so much fun. It is nothing like any other game I've played before, it completely re-energised my interest in games.

This machine will be absolutely great fun at house parties over Christmas with family and friends, it is the type of thing that everyone can play and enjoy, even non gamers.

monkeyfudge · 07-12-2006 3:06pm

Zelda is the big draw for me. I wouldn't be in such a rush to get my hands on one if it wasn't for Zelda.

Zombrex · 07-12-2006 3:10pm

RadioGirl wrote:

I've spent the afternoon trying to figure out:

a) Why anyone in their right mind would go out in the wind and rain for something they could get at a later date.

b) What the big deal about the Wii is.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Well it looks like the Wii will be sold out until after Christmas. So if someone doesn't pick it up either on pre-order or being very lucky, a "later date" means at least a month or two away.

Also the question is more "why wait?" If you want a Wii why would you not go out and try and get one tonight? If the Irish put off something because it was raining we would never get anything done.

Smellyirishman · 07-12-2006 3:15pm

RadioGirl wrote:

I've spent the afternoon trying to figure out:

a) Why anyone in their right mind would go out in the wind and rain for something they could get at a later date.

Why would anyone in their right mind spend an afternoon trying to figure out why anyone in their right mind would go out in the wind and rain for something they could get at a later date?

Zombrex · 07-12-2006 3:17pm

monkeyfudge wrote:

Zelda is the big draw for me. I wouldn't be in such a rush to get my hands on one if it wasn't for Zelda.

Yeah, same here. At the moment the other launch titles aren't exactly setting my world alight. But Zelda is Zelda, as they say.

Plus my housemate (female) really wants to have a go with Wii Sports, and I just can't so no to chicks.

Pablo-El-Vagabu · 07-12-2006 3:19pm

Well Nintendo have been very canny this time around.

They have created a system that can appeal to a lot of different types of people: non-gamers, retro gamers, nintards, hard core, lapsed gamers, DS owners, casual gamers, gadget freaks, ipoders and even OAPs(stretching here).

I think to get an idea of why people really want this you would have to play it and maybe see others play it.

Plus it is tiny and looks kewl.....

Game on tomorrow!!!!

Pablo <--- I am becoming a nintard

qwertplaywert · 07-12-2006 3:51pm

hard core gamers?me thinks no cause of the graphics.......

Pablo-El-Vagabu · 07-12-2006 4:00pm

qwertplaywert wrote:

hard core gamers?me thinks no cause of the graphics.......

Hard Core Gamers: gamers who spend enormous amounts of time gaming.

Likes: Games with content, deep storyline, unusual gameplay, entertaining/funny games....

Not to be confused with: Sony fanyboies, hardened Xbots and graphics whores...

Smellyirishman · 07-12-2006 4:01pm

qwertplaywert wrote:

hard core gamers?me thinks no cause of the graphics.......

Me thinks yes, because of the games. I see a lot of "hardcore" gamers here getting one. "Hardcore" gamers play Quake, you don't see them leaving it because of the graphics. Besides, WTF *is* hardcore!

^see above^

bk · 07-12-2006 4:05pm

qwertplaywert wrote:

hard core gamers?me thinks no cause of the graphics.......

Nintendo fans are pretty much the most hard core gamers. You getting mixed up with the Xbox whinnies who think they are hard core. (that isn't an insult to all the xbox owners, rather a comment on xbox fanboys for whom the xbox was probably one of the first consoles they ever owned and they think they are all cool).

Hard core are people who can trace the gaming heritage back to the ZX spectrum or NES/Master System.

Tusky · 07-12-2006 4:10pm

I hate the term 'hard-core' gamer. I find it embarrassing reading your posts!

Irishpimpdude · 07-12-2006 4:22pm

bk wrote:

Nintendo fans are pretty much the most hard core gamers. You getting mixed up with the Xbox whinnies who think they are hard core. (that isn't an insult to all the xbox owners, rather a comment on xbox fanboys for whom the xbox was probably one of the first consoles they ever owned and they think they are all cool).

Hard core are people who can trace the gaming heritage back to the ZX spectrum or NES/Master System.

Lol... well depends on the generation.. im 16 and got my first console when i was like 3

the lovely megadrive hehe but have played the nes and master system just never owned them...

super_furry · 07-12-2006 4:31pm

Can we please stop all this 'hard-core' nonsense? It's embarassing.

As for the Wii, I'm not convinced enough to lay down the cash. I've never bought a console at launch and usually wait until there's at least three 'must have' titles for me to be tempted. The fact that the one essential game - Zelda - will be available on the Gamecube makes the decision easier for me. I'm sure I'll get a Wii eventually - most likely when Smash Brothers, Metroid and Mario are available.

bk · 07-12-2006 4:32pm

Irishpimpdude wrote:

Lol... well depends on the generation.. im 16 and got my first console when i was like 3 the lovely megadrive hehe but have played the nes and master system just never owned them...

Yeah, that is fairly cool, I'm certainly showing my age. The whole hard core thing is total BS. In the end it is all about the games and just enjoying playing them. Not the console you have or how "cool" it is.

It just bothers me a little that increasingly the term hardcore has come to mean some kids playing Halo on Xbox. There is absolutely nothing hardcore about that.

Tusky · 07-12-2006 4:47pm

Smyths just rang me and told im 100% guaranteed to get one tomorrow. woo

mikeruurds · 07-12-2006 5:09pm

I can remember when a 48K ram ZX Spectrum was a hardcore gaming rig. Then my mate's parents bought him a PC with a 8MB hard drive... I was so jealous.

Jetpack FTW!

Mike

P.S. I even owned a Pong game with state of the art controllers with twirly knobs. I am sooo l33t

bk · 07-12-2006 5:18pm

mikeruurds wrote:

I can remember when a 48K ram ZX Spectrum was a hardcore gaming rig. Then my mate's parents bought him a PC with a 8MB hard drive... I was so jealous.

Jetpack FTW!

Jetpack ruled and Elite and Ghouls and ghosts and manic miner, ah the memories. I laugh today when people complain about long load times, remember waiting 30 minutes to load just one level off a tape cassette?

mikeruurds · 07-12-2006 5:27pm

bk wrote:

Jetpack ruled and Elite and Ghouls and ghosts and manic miner, ah the memories. I laugh today when people complain about long load times, remember waiting 30 minutes to load just one level off a tape cassette?

Good times... I used to type out lines of BASIC into it just so that I could say I was "programming". The result was pretty uninspiring and my ZX had a dodgy power lead so I usually had to redo it a few times.

I can still remember the awful sounds it used to make when loading up tapes and not to forget the dodgy colours on the screen during loading.

Those were some of the most playable games

Mike

Darnell13 · 07-12-2006 5:31pm

To answer the question at the start of this thread:

I....just like ....nintendo games. That's all.

Shred · 07-12-2006 5:49pm

mikeruurds wrote:

Good times... I used to type out lines of BASIC into it just so that I could say I was "programming". The result was pretty uninspiring and my ZX had a dodgy power lead so I usually had to redo it a few times.

I can still remember the awful sounds it used to make when loading up tapes and not to forget the dodgy colours on the screen during loading.

Those were some of the most playable games

Mike

What a great machine that was - I still have mine although it's long been knackered. I used to love Jetpack and what was that game where you were in a POW camp and you had to tunnel out? Used to love that to bits too. The only problem was the ZX wasn't very reliable and it kept breaking:( I still have 10 or 12 issues of Input magazine with loads of the programmes you were talking about; it'd take 30-60 minutes to put in loads of lines of code just to get the machine to display a clock:D Great fun though.

Which brings me back on topic; OP the Wii is the first machine in years that's put the fun back into gaming and it's something that nearly anyone of any age can enjoy. Give it a try and then you might understand the hype.

cmb. · 07-12-2006 5:50pm

Darnell13 wrote:

To answer the question at the start of this thread:

I....just like ....nintendo games. That's all.

i think that sums it up - a lot of us grew up with nintendo and have a special place for the company that broung us mario, zelda, pilotwings, blastcorps, mario-kart, duck hunt, goldeneye and so many more that we could all list - like a lot of peolpe, i havent got the same out of a console in a long time but the wii is something that really brings gaming forward because it is based on a philosphy of games design over the 'pc' logic to gaming of bigger is better with hardware

it comes down to this - i remember the xbox360 launch - i went in, picked up my machine etc but, as much as i enjoy the games on it, it was the same old stuff with prettier graphics and more on screen polygons - but for some reason, the wii has me excited, reading up online, watching videos etc because the wii has the chance of bringing gaming forward to the next generation of gaming - say what you want (and this is from a person who gets all consoles - i dont go into the psp v xbox v wii - no more that i thing that you can olny like comedies and not dramas etc) but the ps3 & xbox havent really brought gaming forward - the last big leap was 3d gaming - this is the next big step - we are seing a real attempt to reevaluate how we play games - again back to the philosophy of nintendo to do something with how we play games and not what we play games on and the power of the machine over a rivals - after all a console aint woth the plastic casing it comes in if it doesnt gave the games - and that is what nintendo have always excelled at - just my 2 cents

Dman001 · 07-12-2006 6:10pm

Whats the big deal?In 1 word:ZELDA

mikeruurds · 07-12-2006 7:32pm

Yeah... at least you know that Nintendo games are bound to be tons of fun. The Wiimote just pushes the Big-N fun factor beyond any previous nintendo console.

I have a decent gaming PC rig and an Xbox 360, but the console I'm most excited about is the Wii.

No matter how much behind nintendo may be in the graphics department, they're leagues ahead of the pack when it comes to playability and sheer fun.

Call me a fanboy if you like.

Mike

Star Lord · 07-12-2006 8:00pm

Fanboy!

mikeruurds · 07-12-2006 8:03pm

DamoElDiablo wrote:

Fanboy!

It's a curse I tellz ya.

Star Lord · 07-12-2006 11:10pm

Lol!

You're not a fan boy though, you've a xbox360 too, which automatically disqualifies you from fanboyism. I've only had Nintendo consoles since the SNES. (Had a GameGear before that.)

Mind you my brothers have a PS2 so any other games I wanna play tend to be on it, or on PC.

mikeruurds · 08-12-2006 7:37am

DamoElDiablo wrote:

Lol!

You're not a fan boy though, you've a xbox360 too, which automatically disqualifies you from fanboyism. I've only had Nintendo consoles since the SNES. (Had a GameGear before that.)

Mind you my brothers have a PS2 so any other games I wanna play tend to be on it, or on PC.

Yeah... I'm just a gadget/techno geek. I have a cube, PS2, Xbox360, PC and now a Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! I've also had an Xbox, Gameboy and other retro hardware

Nintendo games are the most fun though.

Mike

norrie rugger · 08-12-2006 7:56am

bk wrote:

Nintendo fans are pretty much the most hard core gamers. You getting mixed up with the Xbox whinnies who think they are hard core. (that isn't an insult to all the xbox owners, rather a comment on xbox fanboys for whom the xbox was probably one of the first consoles they ever owned and they think they are all cool).

Hard core are people who can trace the gaming heritage back to the ZX spectrum or NES/Master System.

what about the Apple II or an atari?
or my old game and watch?

norrie rugger · 08-12-2006 7:58am

mikeruurds wrote:

P.S. I even owned a Pong game with state of the art controllers with twirly knobs. I am sooo l33t

fawk, i remember playing that!!
i am 25

norrie rugger · 08-12-2006 8:01am

DamoElDiablo wrote:

Lol!

You're not a fan boy though, you've a xbox360 too, which automatically disqualifies you from fanboyism. I've only had Nintendo consoles since the SNES. (Had a GameGear before that.)

Mind you my brothers have a PS2 so any other games I wanna play tend to be on it, or on PC.

never been a nintendo fan boy. all the nintendos i ever had were the old old game boy (still works) and the N64.

have had atari 7200, mega drive, PS1, N64, PS2 and soon the Wii

sofar the N64 holds the place in my heart

ambro25 · 08-12-2006 8:54am

Pablo-El-Vagabu wrote:

They have created a system that can appeal to a lot of different types of people: non-gamers, retro gamers, nintards, hard core, lapsed gamers, DS owners, casual gamers, gadget freaks, ipoders and even OAPs (stretching here).

ambro25 wrote:

QUOTE EDIT: Meanwhile, in another thread not so long ago...

Putting aside arcades (yum...), CBS Coleco here (only slightly later than VCS, still less than 8-bit tho). Aaah, Turbo and Dukes of Hazzard with the steering wheel, what memories!

Then over the last...oooh...must be 20 years or thereabouts...[big breath intake]:

*computer-wise*
C64, Atari 520ST, Amiga 600, 386 Zenith laptop, Apple Macintosh (classic monobloc shape), 486/P1/P2/P3 clones or self-built, currently AMD64 HP (heavily upgraded with non-HP parts) & Dell D600.

*TV console-wise*
SMS, MD, SNES [...big void, skipped the troubled late 16-bit/early-32 bit era...] DC, PS1, N64, PS2, GC, XB1. Plus retro period in a big way a few years back: NES, 3DO, CDI, PC-E, PC-SGX, Saturn, Jaguar, NeoGeo, Pippin.

*portable console-wise*
GB classic, GB color, GBA, GBA SP, currently DS original shape. Plus retro period in a big way a few years back: GBP, GBP light, WS, WSC, NGP, NGPC, Supervision, VirtualBoy, GG, Nomad, Lynx 1, Lynx 2, PC-E GT.

I guess that makes me all of a...non-gamer, retro gamer, nintard, hard core, lapsed gamer, DS owner, casual gamer, gadget freak. (PS: Say No to iPods, and I'll offer no comments about the OAP status

)

I guess ownership history automatically disqualifies me from "fanboyism", eh DamoElDiablo

But I'm certainly a lapsed gamer atm, where TV consoles are concerned. I'm not one for labelling, but I quite like that, 'lapsed gamer' - good one, Pablo-El-Vagabu

Oh, btw - my Wii was graciously "obtained" earlier this AM, though I'm not getting my mitts on it 'til Santa's been

mikeruurds · 08-12-2006 8:58am

norrie rugger wrote:

fawk, i remember playing that!!
i am 25

29 here

Still gaming like a teenager! My wife thinks I'll never grow out of it... I think she's right.

ambro25 · 08-12-2006 9:05am

mikeruurds wrote:

My wife thinks I'll never grow out of it... I think she's right.

MAME, Bust-A-Move and one of these bad boys -

- sorted all that. Then again, she now has a fondness for MarioKart (64/DD) and Yoshi too.

All about education

EDIT: now, to sort an interface between Wii and the HotRod (PC P/S2 only) for all that 8-bit/16-bit goodness... :rolleyes:

Elessar · 08-12-2006 9:32am

I'm with the OP on this one. I can't see the point of buying a Wii unless you have a huge amount of people to play with as it seems to be more geared towards 'social' gaming. Plus the technology just doesn't cut it, for me. Being much less graphically capable than the next gen consoles (more akin to last gen) and nothing close to the PS3 etc. is just awful imo. I would feel like I was stepping back in time. I just cant do that.

Plus I just love to hate everything that everyone else loves

. But I guess the crazy wiimote gizmos are just too tempting for some people!

Kurtosis · 08-12-2006 10:52am

Elessar wrote:

Plus the technology just doesn't cut it, for me.

Well, when you say technology, you mean graphical capabilities, yes?

Technologically, the Wii is more advanced than both XBox360 and PS3. The Wii remote is a far bigger jump imo than simply another improvement in graphics, just like has happened with the last 6 generations of home consoles.

mikeruurds · 08-12-2006 10:55am

penguin88 wrote:

Well, when you say technology, you mean graphical capabilities, yes?

Technologically, the Wii is more advanced than both XBox360 and PS3. The Wii remote is a far bigger jump imo than simply another improvement in graphics, just like has happened with the last 6 generations of home consoles.

Agreed 100% Xbox 360 and PS3 technology has been available to PC owners for some time now. The Wii is a new step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned.

I still love my 360 and PC though!

Kurtosis · 08-12-2006 11:01am

Just to clarify, I have nothing against the likes of the 360. I'm as partial as the next man to a game with amazing graphics. I just think it's a ridiculous thing to say that the Wii's technology isn't good enough.

Kinetic^ · 08-12-2006 11:39am

RadioGirl wrote:

I've spent the afternoon trying to figure out:

a) Why anyone in their right mind would go out in the wind and rain for something they could get at a later date.

b) What the big deal about the Wii is.

Can anyone enlighten me?

A) They wanted it last year

It's a revolution(they should've kept this name actually) in gaming.

Gamers like playing games, regardless of what format they're on. I've turned into a right Xbox fanboy but I have to admit that the wii looks very appealing and I'll probably end up getting one.

The only thing that changes with gamers as the years goes on is the size of their..........

....pants!!

ambro25 · 08-12-2006 11:44am

Kenny 5 wrote:

....pants!!

Wrongo

The only thing that changes with gamers as the years goes on is the size of their..........

....wallet!!

Kinetic^ · 08-12-2006 11:48am

Wii: Whats the Big Deal?

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