Who Calls String Bets?

sikes

This one came up tonight.

So we get to the river and theres two players in the hand. I bet 1k, and player string raises to 2k. The dealer calls string raise and the player is only allowed to call.

Unfortunatley in this instance i had the second nuts. A discussion commences where they debate the reason for the dealer being oblidged to call the string bet and not give the option to the player to let it stand etc. The argument for letting it stand was that it protects new players, however obviously i missed out on a few chips, probably double what i otherwise picked up.

Anyway this is the rule in the fitz, is it the same elsewhere? I didnt kick up a fuss or anything, i eventually got his stack anyway!

gerry87

I'd imagine the dealer has the final say, the players don't get the final say on any other rules.

joebhoy1916

sikes wrote:

The argument for letting it stand was that it protects new players, however obviously i missed out on a few chips, probably double what i otherwise picked up.

Anyway this is the rule in the fitz, is it the same elsewhere? I didnt kick up a fuss or anything, i eventually got his stack anyway!

A string bet doesnt stand. Although say if a guy has three stacks in front of him and say's for example raise to 20,000 he has three stacks with 10,000 each he moves one stack in then the other that's a string bet but he would have to leave the first stack that he put in.

Sorry if doesnt make sense too early for me to be up.

WH BONNEY

joebhoy1916 wrote:

A string bet doesnt stand. Although say if a guy has three stacks in front of him and say's for example raise to 20,000 he has three stacks with 10,000 each he moves one stack in then the other that's a string bet but he would have to leave the first stack that he put in.

Sorry if doesnt make sense too early for me to be up.

Dont agree with this. If the guy announces a raise to 20k, it doesnt matter that he puts the chips in with two different stacks. He announced his raise now he puts his chips in whatever way he wants.

El Stuntman

WH BONNEY wrote:

Dont agree with this. If the guy announces a raise to 20k, it doesnt matter that he puts the chips in with two different stacks. He announced his raise now he puts his chips in whatever way he wants.

preferably by splashing the pot in a flagrantly exhibitionist manner....

(this puts dealers on tilt)

Mellor

joebhoy1916 wrote:

A string bet doesnt stand. Although say if a guy has three stacks in front of him and say's for example raise to 20,000 he has three stacks with 10,000 each he moves one stack in then the other that's a string bet but he would have to leave the first stack that he put in.

I agree with WH BONNEY, this is not a string bet and anybody who calls it as one should be tar'd and feather'd right there at the table. Some bets are just too big for one movement

Degag

WH BONNEY wrote:

Dont agree with this. If the guy announces a raise to 20k, it doesnt matter that he puts the chips in with two different stacks. He announced his raise now he puts his chips in whatever way he wants.

This is true... I'm actually a bit worried about this rule at the moment as i'm running a small poker tournie next week. Usually the players in our group string bet to their hearts content, because its an informal game, but now that it's a bit more serious i'm thinking of introducing a string bet rule. I don't think i will though as it may cause more problems than it solves, as 90% of our players wouldn't understand it!

bohsman

In the Fitz its the dealers call which is only fair as too many people take advantage of it anyway, there would be carnage if it was the players call - every second hand someone would scream string bet knowing they will get a cheap card.

NickyOD

The dealer has to call a string bet. If he doesn't he sets a precedent whereby the rule can be exploited in the future. I would sometimes give leniency for new players if their intentions are are blatantly obvious but after the first time he does it that's it, after that he has to play by the big boy rules. It's a rule that gets abused a lot though and a lot of the time I'll let it slide for an experienced player but only if his intentions are very obvious.

Scouser in Dub

Agree with WH Bonney as long as the intention is clear then you can move your chips in more than one movement.

In the Fitz the rule seems to be applied sensibly especially when chips fell out of my shaking hand with a monster

Clareman

it's my understanding (prepared to be shot down here), that if your going to raise you should either move all the chips you wish to raise to in the pot in 1 movement, or you should verbally call out raise, then you can put in your chips or you can verball say raise xx amount and then put in the correct amount. I got caught out in a casino in Australia once by mistakingly string betting, cost me over a grand in chips (the person against me had a straight flush, I had a royal)

bohsman

NickyOD wrote:

The dealer has to call a string bet. If he doesn't he sets a precedent whereby the rule can be exploited in the future.

I call about 5% of stringbets when Im dealing, its the most exploited rule in poker, people are not string betting in a hope of gaining information which is what the rule is guarding against, they are doing it because they dont know any better and its the regulars who exploite this by bullying them and angle shooting.

span

One that annoys me as a dealer is when players say raise, then throw their chips in one at a time. I call them on it and they start arguing that because they said raise they can put the chips in whatever way they want. ehh no, it's still a string bet.