Scheisse!!!

cormie

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TloMXZJr_-s

I can't tell, but is the footage from 3:24 real time or has it been sped up? If it's real time it's freakin scary:eek: Hard to tell!

Lex Luthor

290km/h on a public road. The cops should throw the key away on those idiots

cormie

It's the AutoBahn No speed limit.

peasant

At that point in time the driver is waffling on about how he can stay fully on the throttle, even through shifting gears.

Passenger: Speed?
Driver: ..err...hang on a sec ...
Passenger: ah, not that important, better keep your eyes on the road, please:D

EDIT:
@4.42

Driver: zwo siebzig (two seventy)
Passenger: aber hier ist doch nur hundertzwanzig (But here is only onehundredtwenty (speed limit !)
Driver: ganz, ganz easy (very, very easy)


and then they hit 320

cormie

Crazy, I'm still not sure though, at 3:24 is the video sped up or is that real time and are they actually going that fast? looks so much faster when there's traffic around (if it is real time).

Lex Luthor

cormie wrote:

It's the AutoBahn No speed limit.

so that makes it right?

if they want to go that fast, then get to a track and stop putting others peoples lives in danger especially when they were just mucking around.

That crash was a fake. There was no crash. Surely you all don't believe that? I suppose the same people that do believe Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11

Anan1

Lex Luthor wrote:

That crash was a fake. There was no crash. Surely you all don't believe that? I suppose the same people that do believe Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11

What makes you think anyone thought the crash was real? What we watched was a short film.

afatbollix

ya its speeded up... look how much the camera shakes... its twice as fast as it was so twice as shaky

peasant

I did 300 km/h once (on an ICE train ) it IS that bloody fast !

Do-more

The initial take-off looks to be speeded up but then I would say it is real time. The bit on the quay in Hamburg certainly looks to be photoshopped.

Fasted I ever did on the Autobahn was about 235Kmh (about 145mph) at that speed the lanes start to appear very narrow! And for someone not used to it, the level of concentration required is really sapping. You are looking at every movement ahead of you whilst still watching your mirrors for the full lights of a Porsche coming up behind you at vMax! All I say is with the level of discipline Irish drivers have, thank God we have speed limits to match!

cormie

Hehe, I knew the crash was fake. Tomato Ketchup time:D

So peasant, you don't think it's sped up and you do anto?

I don't know Lex, I mean the Germans seem to have their heads screwed on very well when it comes to driving, why have NO speed limit, I mean, they could even put a limit of 250km up without changing much, but they don't

peasant

No, i don't think it's sped up, looks real to me.

As for why there is no restriction on Autobahns ..I've elaborated on this before, but the search won't let me find it again.

The short and sweet of it is ...not a lot remains unrestricted. Most sections have either permanent or variable speed limits in place. The few unrestricted sections mainly remain because of political reasons. Automanufacturers have a huge lobby in Germany and see to it that there is no general speed limit. (130 km/h has been mooted for 30 years now). Because the idea that there is a mystical section of German Autobahn where you can drive your car to its full potential is what keeps the sales up ...not just in Germany, but seemingly everywhere.

How silly would M5-s, Lambos, Veyrons et all look if the fastest you could legally and publicly drive them was 120 or 130 km/h? How silly would their owners feel? The mystical German Autobahn keeps the illusion alive and that's why the German auto industry will see to it that it remains unrestricted.

Conspiracy theory?

I don't think so ...go to any speed nutters forum and the Autobahn is all they talk and dream about. Even american Porsche drivers talk about getting their car over to Germany to drive "The Autobahn" (or at least fly over and rent the same model they drive over there and give it a lash).

And it's not just the supercars ...everybody to some degree buys into it. Theoretically we could all be driving cars that top out at 120-130 km/h plus a little margin for safety ...but very few of us do. And those who do usually aspire to something faster, more powerful.

And that's what keeps the car industry ticking over.

So ..there you have it ...peasant's theory of German world domination

cormie

Well I'm buying a Murcielago lp640 even if I have to stick to the 120 limit here. I just love the thing! Just need the money now:D

I'd probably be too much of a safety woos to go much higher than 120 anyway. Flashback of lex's thread in my mind:p

Sonnenblumen

250-300kmh on the Autobahn is no problem for most capable German cars/drivers. You can see it for yourself any day on the A3 etc. The difference is they are more realistic of the car's capabilities, here in Ireland a similar percentage do not know what the Overtaking lane is or are afraid if they do not drive the cars it might be a problem for the NCT or something.

Better roads help, but with good cars, schneller ist besser.

Gluck Auf.

Lex Luthor

Ya but these morons were acting the maggot and could have caused serious damage to others on the road.

Traumadoc

This is faster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv6k-GTQGmw

Anan1

Sonnenblumen wrote:

250-300kmh on the Autobahn is no problem for most capable German cars/drivers. You can see it for yourself any day on the A3 etc. The difference is they are more realistic of the car's capabilities, here in Ireland a similar percentage do not know what the Overtaking lane is or are afraid if they do not drive the cars it might be a problem for the NCT or something.

Better roads help, but with good cars, schneller ist besser.

Gluck Auf.

250 should be fine, but 300km/h is a completely different thing. Most capable German cars won't do it, and I don't think most capable German drivers would have either the inclination or the ability to control a car at such speeds. There is also a law of diminishing returns with really high speeds, where the mental effort required and resultant fatigue starts to outweigh the time saved by doing that speed in the first place.

mackerski

peasant wrote:

The short and sweet of it is ...not a lot remains unrestricted. Most sections have either permanent or variable speed limits in place.

"Most" would be pushing it a bit. Many sections do, but there are still plenty of derestricted bits too, and my observations suggest that they are still in the majority. In fact, many sections of road that would here attract a 100 limit for being a bit curvy have no limit at all in Germany.

cornbb

I'm convinced most of it was sped up and the crash was most definitely a crappy fake. Dang fools.

Edit: check out this video for the real thing. Seriously scary. The guy does an entire circle of the huge motorway surrounding paris in something like 11 minutes. He must have made a couple of hundred motorists crap themselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTCpdXhHnCA

Alun

mackerski wrote:

"Most" would be pushing it a bit. Many sections do, but there are still plenty of derestricted bits too, and my observations suggest that they are still in the majority. In fact, many sections of road that would here attract a 100 limit for being a bit curvy have no limit at all in Germany.

My own personal observations would concur with this view .. I have no idea where this idea has come from on here that there are very few unrestricted sections left. Maybe whoever started it only travelled around some of the heavily urbanised and therefore congested areas like the Ruhrgebiet. Certainly when I was last over there in the Summer, I noticed no significant difference to when I lived over there up until 5 years ago. Most areas that do have limits are down to the presence of busy motorway intersections, bridges with potentially dangerous side winds and generally busy areas around major conurbations.

One big difference over there though is that where they do have limits, in general, people stick to them, especially when there are roadworks, but as soon as the limit ends, it's pedal to the metal time again.

Anan1

cornbb wrote:

I'm convinced most of it was sped up and the crash was most definitely a crappy fake. Dang fools.

It's a low budget film, for God's sake. What did you expect them to do, really crash the car?

peasant

Alun wrote:

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One big difference over there though is that where they do have limits, in general, people stick to them

and here's one of the reasons why ...:D
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=261228&referrerid=&highlight=leopard++ii

Alun

peasant wrote:

and here's one of the reasons why ...:D
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=261228&referrerid=&highlight=leopard++ii

I think I know that bit of road .. isn't it called the Schwarze Katze or something like that? I seem to remember a sign before you get to it with a picture of a big black cat on it? Anyway, like you say a big long downhill stretch with 3 lanes and a deceptive dip and bend at the bottom. It's pretty east to spot which of the overhead gantries have cameras and which don't though, so watch out for people going above the limit and then suddenly braking for one of the gantries and then speeding up again. From memory it's the middle two of the four gantries

They didn't have the tank in "my day" though"

Wolverine_1999

I've done 210Kmph on the Autobahn with my car... believe me, it's not a big deal over here.

Speed is not the killer over here, it's unawareness and inexperience. Ireland is a joke...

Oh and Lex, I would blame that driver who didn't get out of the way for driving dangerously.. Believe me, when somebody is speeding up behind you that fast, you have to be the one to get out of the way. There is no way he would be able to stop in time, and it's annoying to have to slow down completely because some guy won't get out of the way... I know from experience..

Video was definately not sped up either! I've sat in the skylight area (just behind the driver) which was facing towards the back in an ICE Train as well before... believe me it's fast!

cormie

That's crazy if it's not sped up! Madness.

junkyard

What you really need is a Police escort.:)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbbtK90LZ9E

Lex Luthor

Wolverine_1999 wrote:

I've done 210Kmph on the Autobahn with my car... believe me, it's not a big deal over here.

Speed is not the killer over here, it's unawareness and inexperience. Ireland is a joke...

Oh and Lex, I would blame that driver who didn't get out of the way for driving dangerously.. Believe me, when somebody is speeding up behind you that fast, you have to be the one to get out of the way. There is no way he would be able to stop in time, and it's annoying to have to slow down completely because some guy won't get out of the way... I know from experience..

Video was definately not sped up either! I've sat in the skylight area (just behind the driver) which was facing towards the back in an ICE Train as well before... believe me it's fast!

290 compared to 210 is a big difference. The car that had to move could have been moving at 200 which is fast enough as it is. I've been over there and doing 180-200 and have had to use the fast lane to over take and then you get an idiot coming up behind you in a flash before you even have a chance to move back in.

I'm not generalising anyway, I was talking specifically about these guys going out to make a video on a public road to see how fast they could go. It should be kept to a private track, thats all

Wolverine_1999

The whole flashing business is a bit of a nuisance alright... Actually, German drivers on a whole are much worse than Irish "Qualified" ones (i.e full driving licence, not 5th provisional...)