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Are the media allowedf quote our posts?

  • 22-11-2006 6:42pm
    #1
    Aoife-FM104
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭


    Let's say for example, I wrote on boards.ie that I love beer.

    If a newspaper is writing an article about beer, can they say 'Aoife-FM104 said, "I love beer"', or do they need permission from me or boards.ie ???


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  • #2
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Our posts are property of Boards. Ltd so I would expect that they're copyrighted to Boards.


  • #3
    grimloch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    One of the guys here was quoted in a newspaper but I'm almost sure he wasn't mentioned by name.

    I might have a look about and try to find the thread in question.


  • #4
    wba88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭wba88


    Aoife-FM104 wrote:
    Let's say for example, I wrote on boards.ie that I love beer.

    If a newspaper is writing an article about beer, can they say 'Aoife-FM104 said, "I love beer"', or do they need permission from me or boards.ie ???
    u thinkin of quoting sum1? :eek:


  • #5
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    grimloch wrote:
    One of the guys here was quoted in a newspaper but I'm almost sure he wasn't mentioned by name.

    I might have a look about and try to find the thread in question.
    Wasn't that in relation to the Event promotions company that shall remain unnamed?


  • #6
    Ruu_Old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    rb_ie wrote:
    Our posts are property of Boards. Ltd so I would expect that they're copyrighted to Boards.

    Moved to News & Media.

    I would imagine this is correct. In the Herald this evening 'Ruu mentioned that "Aoife-104FM was banned from After Hours"' .:)


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  • #7
    grimloch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    rb_ie wrote:
    Wasn't that in relation to the Event promotions company that shall remain unnamed?

    No. To be quite honest I can't remember exactly what it was in relation to but it was definitely a long time before this "unpleasantness".


  • #8
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    grimloch wrote:
    No. To be quite honest I can't remember exactly what it was in relation to but it was definitely a long time before this "unpleasantness".
    Are you sure? I thought that the company in question found out because a newspaper quoted/referenced someones post on Boards?

    Maybe they have a few times...

    Also, as I believe, since our posts are the property of Boards, the owners ( John B/Cloud etc)can give consent to their publication without consenting us, the poster.


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    grimloch wrote:
    One of the guys here was quoted in a newspaper but I'm almost sure he wasn't mentioned by name.

    I might have a look about and try to find the thread in question.

    When the CAO results came out, the Irish Times had their 'CAO points & College Special' supplement. In it they took comments from users from each of the college forums about each of the colleges on boards.ie, sometimes giving credit to Boards.ie, sometimes not (but I don't believe they ever named the users).

    I'll have a look for the related TCD thread.


  • #10
    monkey tennis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 583 ✭✭✭monkey tennis


    I'd imagine being posted on Boards would be close enough to publication, so I'd have thought they could quote any of it, provided they credited the source. I'd say Boards would have to say somewhere that posts can not be reproduced without explicit consent in order for it... well... to be reproduced without explicit consent!


  • #11
    Aoife-FM104
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭Aoife-FM104


    OK, thanks for the replies.

    Is saying, 'Aoife-FM104 said, "I love beer"', the same as 'Aoife-FM104 said she loves "beer" blah blah'.

    The reason I ask is because I've been quoted (not from boards) and I'm not too happy...


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  • #12
    gonker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭gonker


    I have been quoted in a newspaper and they mentioned boards.


  • #13
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Aoife-FM104 wrote:
    OK, thanks for the replies.

    Is saying, 'Aoife-FM104 said, "I love beer"', the same as 'Aoife-FM104 said she loves "beer" blah blah'.

    The reason I ask is because I've been quoted (not from boards) and I'm not too happy...

    It didn't happen to be Hot Press that quoted you from the Hot Press forum?


  • #14
    toffeeman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭toffeeman


    I'd say if you write something here then it is fair game to be quoted as long as it's quoted accurately. Though if someone is quoting you, it's only right they let you know by PM.

    I've done it once in the past and asked the guy if it was ok. He didn't respond before deadline and I used it anyway.... felt slightly guilty. He got back to me later and said it was ok. Phew!


  • #15
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    toffeeman wrote:
    I'd say if you write something here then it is fair game to be quoted as long as it's quoted accurately. Though if someone is quoting you, it's only right they let you know by PM.

    I've done it once in the past and asked the guy if it was ok. He didn't respond before deadline and I used it anyway.... felt slightly guilty. He got back to me later and said it was ok. Phew!
    Its "fair game" for any media source, for example The Independent to come on Boards and pull quotes off it? How so?

    Just because I post on Boards, that doesn't mean I want, nor do I consent to them appearing in tomorrows newspapers/on tv/other media.


  • #16
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    rb_ie wrote:
    Its "fair game" for any media source, for example The Independent to come on Boards and pull quotes off it? How so?

    Just because I post on Boards, that doesn't mean I want, nor do I consent to them appearing in tomorrows newspapers/on tv/other media.

    This might be an issue better answered in Legal Discussion, but it's one I do want discussed here too... might ask some of those legal minds to head over and give their 2c's on the matter...

    My guess would be that what is said here is the intellectual property of the writer, but once the quote is fairly attributed it can be used legally.

    I could be wrong, but I think people can quote (to a reasonable degree) from other sources without express permission as long as they attribute the quote properly; simply put, once a comment or quote is in the public domain it's hard to argue that it cannot be used...

    I can see why people might be a little put off by the idea, but if you were to make a comment at, say, a public debate it's entirely reasonable for that quote to appear in a newspaper or publication afterwards even though the journalist didn't ask you for the right to do it.

    I guess even if they legally aren't supposed to quote without permission a site like boards.ie isn't going to have the time, energy or money to try and stop them through legal channels... the lesson here is don't say anything you wouldn't want repeated in other areas of the public domain.


  • #17
    lostexpectation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    why did you call yourself aoife-fm104, who are you?


  • #18
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    lostexpectation wrote:
    why did you call yourself aoife-fm104, who are you?

    Perhaps her name is Aoife and she works in FM104; or maybe she's just a fan.

    Either way I don't see how that's at all relevant or necessary.


  • #19
    cormie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    What about when the photoshoped images of the Dublin Riots done by a few boardsters were put in the Star I think it was?


  • #20
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Aoife-FM104 wrote:
    If a newspaper is writing an article about beer, can they say 'Aoife-FM104 said, "I love beer"', or do they need permission from me or boards.ie ???

    This is a public forum. By saying something here you are publishing it. Quoting such is like quoting most published material.

    There may, however, be a problem with a newspaper establishing how the fact that user X said "I love beer" is newsworthy and not infringing on person X’s privacy.

    Nevertheless quoting user X, Y, and Z on what they have said on a topical newsworthy issue would hardly be different to a vox pop.

    If it could be established that user X was person A, and person A was in the public eye, then quoting user X would be the same as quoting person A.

    rb_ie wrote:
    Our posts are property of Boards. Ltd so I would expect that they're copyrighted to Boards.

    Yes, but copyright allows for limited usage, such as quoting people.

    rb_ie wrote:
    Just because I post on Boards, that doesn't mean I want, nor do I consent to them appearing in tomorrows newspapers/on tv/other media.

    If you don’t want something repeated, simply don’t say it in public.

    Aoife-FM104 wrote:
    The reason I ask is because I've been quoted (not from boards) and I'm not too happy...

    Why not?

    toffeeman wrote:
    Though if someone is quoting you, it's only right they let you know by PM.

    I don’t agree, by posting any comment users have already published them, and put them in the public domain.

    cormie wrote:
    What about when the photoshoped images of the Dublin Riots done by a few boardsters were put in the Star I think it was?

    That would most likely be different, and may come under the same informal rules as when a photograph is used without permission.

    However, there are of course all sorts of complications – was the Photoshoper the author of the edited photo? Did the original author give the editor permission to edit their work? etc


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