Whats the story with Jay-Z?

O.P.H

I'm not a big rap/hip-hop fan but I am curious about what Jay-Z is doin. I was under the impression that he was finished with the music game to work on other things. I mean his last tour was promoted as his fairwell tour or somethin like that, which would have increased intrest and thus his profit but now a year or so later he's releasing a new album. Unless I've got it all wrong the lads takin the piss.

ghostdancer

3 years later.
he said he was retiring from making music.
then he changed his mind.

O.P.H

Thats very convenient though, he just changed his mind. I mean it would be one thing if he came back after 10 years and it was a comeback tour or somethin but 3 years. And it was only a year or two after all that stuff with Linkin Park he did. It just seems disrespectful to his fans to go on a tour that is billed as his last and come back in less time than some bands (ie U2) take between albums. He must have made a mint with that fairwell tour.

spacecoyote

Jay Z has always, in my eyes, been a hungry greedy c*nt. at some stages in his career he was releasing 2 albums a year. I guess you could call it smart business, milk things while you're popular

Orizio

I don't think anyone geniunely believed Jay had retired.

You've got to love how he gets damned for his rather incredible entrepreneurial abilities when lesser individuals get exalted for inferior achievements.

Makaveli

He's not so much an entrepreneur as he is a smart business man. He knows where and when there's money to be made. I agree though, nobody really believed he retired. I also don't see it as a big insult, surely if you are fan of Jay-Z you should be happy that he's going to release more material.

People seem to be outraged over this, and I don't see what difference the time frame makes, whether it be 3 months or 3 years. Also, whether it was a farewell tour or not (was it billed as one?) I'm sure he would have sold out the tour regardless.

shane86

In fairness he only said he was retiring from making albums, he always hinted he would still do guest spots, appearances on compilations, mixtapes and soundtracks.

Well, now hes went back on that, but still Was never a huge Jay Z fan myself, though Reasonable Doubt is pretty good, and while Nas is generally agreed to have won with Ether, yid wanna hear Jays freestyle over the Bad Intentions beat, he doesnt deliver a below the belt jab, more of a shotgun blast to the crotch re the pun on Nas missus name.

I just dont like alot of the beats he chooses (Show Me What You Got? Bollocks!)

Jay Ru

came across this on another forum, thought it might answer a few questions in relation to jigga new album

Jay-Z has said some very wise things in the press blether that's supporting the release of his new album 'Kingdom Come'.While lots of ageing musicians like to prentend how dead 'ard they are even as their ticker becomes dicky, Jay-Z has said he's wanted to embrace maturity on his new record.

Speaking from his carbon wellyprint private jet, Jay-Z said he believed there was a problem within hip-hop of people clinging desperately onto their youth. "It was very important that I made a record reflective of where I am in my life," he said. "Too many people, when they get like 30 years old, they still try and make records for like, 15-year-olds, and that makes the genre so small and narrow."

He added that he hoped more artists would follow his lead: "I've gotta show that we can make adult records, I've gotta show that we can make vulnerable records and emotional records and real stories and just different stuff. You've got to show the complexity of hip-hop or we're in trouble, I really believe that.

"I believe that hip-hop is so broad - I just want to show how far-reaching hip-hop is. I'm not doing anything that's a stretch. I'm just really taking hip-hop into these places."

Makaveli

You'd swear from listening to him that he has just gone 30, he's 37 in 11 days. If he's making mature reocrds now why wasn't he doing it 7 years ago too?

spacecoyote

yeah and the new track could hardly be classed as mature either now could it (its also pretty pi$$ poor if you ask me)

Beefeater

Ive heard the album is pretty terrible, a few people have it. productions supposed to be poor, average lyrics and he sounds bored.

Jay Ru

Jay-Z's latest release Kingdom Come is on pace to move an estimated 850,000 copies the first week in stores, giving the rapper the year's best selling CD in one week and another #1 album on the Billboard charts.

Kingdom Come is expected to debut at #1 on Billboard's Top 200 Chart next week, giving the rapper his 9th #1 album.

Jay-Z embarked on a massive promotional blitz for the album that included a world tour, a performance at the American Music Awards, commercials for the NBA, Budweiser and Hewlett-Packard, a one-day "Hangar Tour" of seven cities in 24 hours and continuous coverage on MTV and BET.

not to bad considering it was leaked on the net for a good few days before it was released

tdc

Makaveli wrote:

He knows where and when there's money to be made.

...like an entrepreneur.

me and the biz

To be honest no-one really believed he'd be gone for long. It was always a matter of how long would he be gone for

Makaveli

tdc wrote:

...like an entrepreneur.

Is that your definition for an entrepreneur?

spacecoyote

Makaveli wrote:

Is that your definition for an entrepreneur?

was going to say something sarky, but thought it more appropriate to leave it to a mod on that one

Makaveli

I actually for once wasn't being sarcastic there.

tdc

Makaveli wrote:

Is that your definition for an entrepreneur?

I would define an entrepeneur as someone who identifies an opportunity to make money and they take advantage of the opportunity. You said "He knows where and when there's money to be made". I think you could say the same about an entrepreneur.

What is your defenition?

Makaveli

Someone who engages in the process of planning, organising, operating and assuming the risk of a business venture.

Knowing where and when money is to be made may be something an entrepreneur does but knowing that doesn't make you an entrepreneur it's makes you an astute business person.

jesus_thats_gre

gotta love the boards... jesus

Sm0ke

Makaveli wrote:

Someone who engages in the process of planning, organising, operating and assuming the risk of a business venture.

Knowing where and when money is to be made may be something an entrepreneur does but knowing that doesn't make you an entrepreneur it's makes you an astute business person.

taken directly from my leaving cert buisness book lol!

Makaveli

Actually it came from my Management book, couldn't find my economics one.