I've Just Won the EuroMillones, Apparently.

Raskolnikov

Got a letter in the post today, postmarked Spain. Thought this was rather strange as I don't actually know anyone form Spain! Opened it up anyway, found a letter purporting to be from International Promotion Program telling me I'd won €615,810.00. Whoo fúckin' whoo I thought! Guessing it was a scam judging by the awful quality of the print out of the letter and grammatical errors of the text. Next page requested personal information and bank details. Obviously this is a scam, the only thing I don't get is how do people get scammed? Can these people do anything with bank details and personal info alone?

kippy

Heres a good start....
http://www.scambusters.org/

Hail 2 Da Chimp

I actually think you may have won the Euromillions...
Just fill out the form and remember your good friend H2DC when you get the cash

User45701

how would anyone besides you know if you won it?
when u buy a lotto ticket u dont give your name address or anything,

MAYBE, M A Y B E if someone in the shop rememberd the name off ur visa or laser card and then somehow also rememberd that you won and then maybe they called euro millions who then accessed your address from a name database but i doubt all that.......

aidan_walsh

how would anyone besides you know if you won it?

Well, I would hope the EuroMillions people would know too, otherwise they'd be less than happy to pay out me thinks.

User45701

aidan_walsh wrote:

Well, I would hope the EuroMillions people would know too, otherwise they'd be less than happy to pay out me thinks.

What are you talking about the euro millions people don't know who won/wins!
All they can tell is how many people won what
http://www.lotto.ie/prizes_results/euromillions.asp

They don't know who won what though.
They only know you have won if when you walk in the door with winning ticket in hand

kippy

The National lottery know when and where the ticket was purchased but they do not know who has won the prize until that person enters headquarters with the ticket. They then match up the ticket barcode/numbers with the winning ticket that they have on record.

Again, pretty irrelevant as the OP knows that this is a scan.
The site I linked to is pretty informative.
Kippy

ScumLord

Is no scam! You win mucho big moneys Senior! Please to send credit card and your bank. We have many more uncollected moneys please to send your friends and familys and they will win big also and be very happy! They will love you most. Trust me I am good.


Happy good byes,

Send money now or we have no chose but to give moneys to next peoples.

i thought these scams were long dead

kevmy

ScumLord wrote:

Is no scam! You win mucho big moneys Senior! Please to send credit card and your bank. We have many more uncollected moneys please to send your friends and familys and they will win big also and be very happy! They will love you most. Trust me I am good.


Happy good byes,

Send money now or we have no chose but to give moneys to next peoples.

LOL:D

Feral Mutant

Meanwhile in the International Promotion Program, Spain: (imagine all this in spanish with subtitles, I don't speak spanish so use your imagination)
"Has he sent back his details yet?"
"No not yet, I told you we shouldn't have used that old printer. I bet he couldn't read it."
"I know it's an awful quality printer but we can't afford a better one, we've expended too many resources already tracking him down all the way to Ireland. If he couldn't read it, it was probably because of your horrible english."
"I know enough to ask for his bank details and personal information, enough to send him the money."
"Well maybe he got the letter but he's not writing back."
"What the hell? Why? We're trying to give him €615,810.00?"
"You're right, let's keep waiting".

Car Mad

heres what u do set up an account and have .01cent in it send them that details.heres the clever part if u have come into money theyl send it on and if they are going to steal ur money theyl only get .01 cent its simple really when you think about it

petes

Car Mad wrote:

heres what u do set up an account and have .01cent in it send them that details.heres the clever part if u have come into money theyl send it on and if they are going to steal ur money theyl only get .01 cent its simple really when you think about it

Why waste your time.

aodhu

Car Mad wrote:

heres what u do set up an account and have .01cent in it send them that details.heres the clever part if u have come into money theyl send it on and if they are going to steal ur money theyl only get .01 cent its simple really when you think about it

How this scam sometimes works is that people think exactly that, I think that they then use the bank account in your name to launder money. Then you could have some serious looking people looking to you for the money that was laundered.

RoundyMooney

Another 419 thread, and another plethora of uninformed bunkum...

How can a would be scammer "launder" money through a legitimate ban account without the express permission of the holder? Didn't think that one through, did we?

To the txtspker, watsyername: How can someone in posession of your account details withdraw funds without your consent? Direct debit mandate mean anything?

Someone else: 419 scams are more prevalent than ever.

Getting 419 mails is neither remarkable nor noteworthy. I'm surprised that in this day and age many people not only appear not to have heard of advance fee fraud, but deem spam email worthy of mention.

/sits back and waits for someone to post with unashamed glee of a cialis/willy enlargement email landing in their inbox...

/edit to add info: The sole reason for requesting bank details is an attempt to gauge the seriousness of the victim, to seperate the wheat from the chaff as it were. OTOH, the ever present request for passport scans etc., are for the scammers use, in order to make their online persona appear more legit. They are most effective.

Boxman

My Dad got what sounds like the same letter from Spain.
Maybe ye've shared it! :-)

RoundyMooney

I'm currently engaged in legal discussion with Charles Soludo of the Central Bank of Nigeria, and have just introduced him to... Charles Soludo of the CBN...

Needless to say, both of them claim to be "pls am the real Charles Soludo. Beware of fraud stars who try to defame me" etc. etc.

At one time I was baiting four Mariam Abachas. I got bored and introduced them to each other. I was posing as Mariam number three, and got one of them to confide in me as a fellow guyman (that's what they call each other).

Some of the exchanges were hilarious:

"Hey guy, this mi maga (fool in igbo) keeeepppp ooooooffff or thundar strike u down in ur village" etc.

Chucky the tree

its just identity theft.

constitutionus

got one of these too. how ****ing stupid are people who reply to these things? one of the basic tenants of winning the lottery is you must have bought a ticket yet here i am, ticket less, and worth 600k plus. absolute bollocks.

still if your dumb enough to join a pyramid scheme.......:D

sdanseo

Easy way to tell:

Click here, and note that none of these amounts match the one you were quoted

RoundyMooney

Chucky the tree wrote:

its just identity theft.

No. Apart from the fact that Scammy McScam will happily reuse any photo ID sent to him by an inept baiter or unsuspecting victim, which is not the same at all.

aodhu

RoundyMooney wrote:

How can a would be scammer "launder" money through a legitimate ban account without the express permission of the holder? Didn't think that one through, did we?

Guess not was thinking of the scam where they get you too act as there representitive in in a different country and forward on the money while taking your comission

RoundyMooney

aodhu wrote:

Guess not was thinking of the scam where they get you too act as there representitive in in a different country and forward on the money while taking your comission

You're quite right on that point. A lot of folk aren't aware of that particular twist. The beauty of that particular ploy is that the account holder is held as accountable as the ones lodging and taking out the cash, sometimes with just cause, sometimes as a result of honest to greed, and sometimes as a result of stupidity.

If my initial post came across a little harsh, that wasn't my intention. AH is rife with uninformed guff about internet fraud, which can be frustrating.