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any ideas on what this could be?

  • 16-11-2006 11:18AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭


    This was recorded on Tuesday night in our house. everyone was alseep and this sound only happened once. It was recorded on a video camera and the video showed nothing. All i can say is that the sound never repeated itself and it sounded very close to the camera ..... I cant say I know what causes the noise but I cant say its paranormal either. Just looking for some suggestions on what it might be. I just know it wasnt anyone in the house as the camera was pointing in the direction of the kids two bedrooms (no-one showed on video) and it wasnt myself nor my wife.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    Not sure what it is but, is there a door opposite to where the camera was pointing and could there have been a draft or a window left open, I know this has happened to me once or twice where I would leave the door to box room open and my own door ajar a bit and if I leave the box room window open the draft pulls my door closed, generaly making it knock sound first and sometimes closes the door properly the second time. It also sounds like something hollow like an empty bottle falling on a surface first and then onto something less hard. I am sure there will be lots of explainations posted up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Ok after listening to it a fair few times very loud (poor people in my office) I couldnt say what it is - obviously.

    My observations, the first noise sounds like what a jarred door being opened would sound like. In that it sounds like the release or rub of two heavey pieces of wood. I describe it like that as I've worked alot with massive pieces of wood and recognoise the sound. Of course I'm not saying its that, I'm saying thats the kind of noise.

    The second noise sounds more like and impact noise. I smailed a bit because it sounded similar to a tennis ball being hit in that there was a very slight hollow sound to it.

    All that aside could it have been a noise made by the inner workings of the recorder? Was it audible as it accured?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    ok. I'd have to rule out door noise. the whole house has new double glazed windows and doors externally, plus the video was focussed on one of the nearest doors and in the video it didnt move .. plus the noise is quite loud which would signify something closer to the camera - BUT - my initial impression was of a door sound too. so, i tried to recreate the sound in various ways - including opening and closing doors, even rattling the keys in the doors to see, but i couldnt replicate it. I tried dropping things near the camera, tapping things etc etc but so far Im been unsuccessful.

    I was asleep at the time 6th so i cant say if the sound was audiable at the time, but does it sound like it gives off an echo, or it sounds to me like the sound is reverberating slightly around the room. I cant say it was or wasnt the camera itself outside that Ive never experienced the camera making an internal sound like that in any other video recording. granted I did use the internal mic but i'd be hesitant to say it was an internal camera sound just going by the sound of the recording itself.
    the first noise sounds like what a jarred door being opened would sound like
    - its interesting that a guy at work said much the same thing except he said it sounded like an old door that hadnt been opened in a while. I cant get any door to make that sound unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    unfortunaetly we'll never be able to say what the noise is, that why i discribed the type of noises. Discribing a heavey wooden door or wood rubbing was merely to give a point of reference - I'm not saying it was a door.

    The second noise does have a slight reverb but its so tight to the 2nd noise that i would rule out an echo in the room as it would be spread out more due to the size of the area - I still think it sounds like a hollow object making contact with something i.e. being hit or dropped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Yep, it sounds like a ping pong ball being dropped onto a table from a small height, the second instance sounds slightly muffled. It's definitely not a door.

    What type of floor do you have - is it wooden or carpet? My money is on wood.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    6th - im in the same boat. I cant place the sound at all though. I think the only way is to do more recordings and see what happens ...

    Gordon - other parts of the house have wooden floors, but the area where that was recorded has concrete fllors. its a new extension and we've yet to put the floors down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Do you mean a boucey ball (rubber) as opposed to a ping pong ball (thin plastic)? I think its too dull a sound to be a ping pong ball but a rubber ball is a definate possibility ... especially if its a wooden floor.

    It being a childs room could it be a toy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    On a paranormal note - bulding work has been said to go stire up activity .... just a note.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    What kind of camera is it? I would only expect that kind of internal noise from one of the older plastic shelled cameras, as the noise would be from a cricking of the plastic pieces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    When I thought about it being an internal camera noise I did picture an older Hi8 recorder.

    All we can say about this really is that there is a noise of currently unknown origin. I look forward to seeing and hearing anything else you record in the sme spot.

    6th Out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    its a sony DV with nightvision. its facing one of the kids rooms 6th, but the camera itself is technically in the new hallway - or what used to be outside the bathroom window (before we removed the bathroom and extended the house)

    The thing about it facing one of the kids room and looking up to the hallway is that if any of the kids were out of their beds and walking around, they would have showed up on camera. unfortunatelty the heads might be gone in the camera as for the past few weeks theres been three bars across the screen of the sony, and headcleaning hasnt fixed it but i'll post up an image from the video so you can see where its placed. it is sitting on a wooden bookcase. it could sound like something bouncing off or hitting th e top of the bookcase - but if so the camera would have caught it as the camera is at the edge of the top of the bookcase.

    The house has a small bit of a history which is documented on here somewhere - though i cant remember when i posted the info nor under what username (dont ask).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    So is it possible that something hit the bookcase behind the camera? Out of view of the recording.

    I take it so its a MiniDv Sony HandyCam using mini DV tapes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    6th wrote:
    I look forward to seeing and hearing anything else you record in the sme spot.

    I shall organise such recording tonight. I need to wire up the computer and get a full nights recording. the only problem with setting up a machine and mics is I dont want to freak the kids out - though i do have wireless mics .. they might do the trick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    6th wrote:
    So is it possible that something hit the bookcase behind the camera? Out of view of the recording.

    I take it so its a MiniDv Sony HandyCam using mini DV tapes?

    aye, its a handycam. the camera was right on the far edge of the bookcase but it could be possible something hit off it - but at the same time, what would be flying around at night that would hit off something? I had the thought that maybe the lens cap had slid down the back of the bookcase - but again, what would make the lens cap move after an hour or so and cause it to fall off the side down the back of the bookcase?

    these are all retorical questions btw - im asking myself as much as anyone else


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭ats


    first time posting on this fourm so forgive my ignorance on teh subject :)

    the first sound to me sounds like something that was held under pressure being released. thing of when you held a ruler on a desk and pressed the off desk side down and released it. almost a twang.

    if it was a ping pong ball why are both sounds at a different pitch, one is high and loud and the other a dull thud almost like a slap or clap. maybe something hitting the press the camera was set up. again if a ping pong why only 2 sound?

    is there more noise at the end of this recording, really faint i could be hearing things but i think i hear something other than the background hiss/noise. could just be the recording. do you have a longer sample more before and more after?

    what prompted you to record it was there anything disturbed in the area? what is teh book shelf made of? the thud at the end could be something falling after hitting teh book case but that is a very loud probably should have disturbed something when it hit or if not loud then is very close to the mic which agian if something was flying across the room should it not have disturbed teh camera?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    the recording is longer, but to be honest, ive avoided anything that isnt loud and clear. I have another recording I'll post up that sounds like the same noise but further away. I think it is possible to hear things that arent really there if you have to strain too much to make something out - for example in one opart of the original recording within the background noise i could swear i heard a voice saying something. there is something there, but it might be numerous other things besides a voice. its too ingrained in the background noise for me to pull it out though i did notice that if i increased the volume, only the background noise got louder, not the voice sound. at the same time though, evidnce like that is a bit flakey as its too easy to explain away.

    The reason I set up the recording in the first place is due to the many strange noises ive heard round our house late at night over the past 5 years. Ive heard voices, thuds and noises (like the one recorded) in the past and even sounds like pictures/shelves falling off walls but when i'd go to look I wouldnt be able to find any quick explaination. I do stress though that Im open to any non-paranormal explainations - which is the main reason i posted this thread. I cant figure out any reasonable rational explaination yet though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    Here is the second recording - i cant cut it up here from work, but the 'main' sounds dont come in until about 12 secs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    my initial thoughts on that second one was either our fridge or a bed creaking. I think the first sound is indeed our fridge - it makes a cracking sound the odd time. the second sound i cant place but i put it down to a creaking bed, and ive since been able to disprove that as none of the beds in the house creak at all, even with me jumping on them. they have split bases and no springs. the sound reminds me of maybe someone switching on and off the electrical mains - but again nothing looked wrong on the video, and the power never cut out or anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭ats


    cormac_s wrote:
    - i cant cut it up here from work, but the 'main' sounds dont come in until about 12 secs

    theres a sound the within the first two seconds of this recording, then as you say the two main ones between 11 & 13 seconds and a fourth very faint one, and i could be imagining itat 14 seconds. i can also make out a continuous sound alost every second. this could be teh camera as it has a decent rhythm and is bearly audible.

    anyway it'll be good to see if you can catch anything on video in that area toinight


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭ats


    cormac_s wrote:
    the sound reminds me of maybe someone switching on and off the electrical mains - but again nothing looked wrong on the video, and the power never cut out or anything.

    like a trip switch in teh fuse board? or teh pull cord of an electrical shower?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    the steady sound is the clock ticking. the very very first sound on the second recording i think is the fridge making its clicking sound - and i think there is a lower sound right towards the very very end after the sounds between 11 and 13 seconds.

    Heres a cleaned up version - tell me what those sounds at the end sound like (they sound like aomething in particular to me):

    The cleaned up sound is here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    ats wrote:
    like a trip switch in teh fuse board? or teh pull cord of an electrical shower?

    aye - couldnt be the fuse board, but the bathroom is in the new extension - and it does have a pull cord for the shower. we should have heard someone goingto the bathroom though if it was the shower. still - thats interesting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭ats


    cormac_s wrote:
    Heres a cleaned up version - tell me what those sounds at the end sound like (they sound like aomething in particular to me):

    The cleaned up sound is here

    i may not be downloading this right but there's a hell of a lot of noise in the cleaned up on. not being funny or anything almost like R2D2 :D . using windows media player and winamp to play it

    going out on a limb hear but could the verry faint one at the end be a mouse trap?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    lol yeah i got R2D2 on the cleaned up one too, I knew it reminded me of something,
    one sounded like a ball being hopped of a wall and then being cought in someones hand.

    I dont know about the other one, I'm no good at that sort of thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Lord Oz


    Your mother?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭ats


    Stoner wrote:
    lol yeah i got R2D2 on the cleaned up one too, I knew it reminded me of something,
    one sounded like a ball being hopped of a wall and then being cought in someones hand.

    I dont know that the other even sounds like, I'm no good at that sprt of thing


    yeah taken together, smiliar to Steve McQueen when in teh Cooler in teh great escape with teh baseball only he bounces it from floor to wall to hand. maybe luke Skywalker is bouncing a ball and R2D2 is egging him on LOL sorry couldnt resist that one.

    would there be a computer in that room?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭ats


    cormac_s wrote:

    The house has a small bit of a history which is documented on here somewhere - though i cant remember when i posted the info nor under what username (dont ask).


    lets assume a non logical explaination like the cat got through the window anything in the history of the house about a child or anything like that?

    or the logical, do you have to come though this room to get to the bathroom? if not could someone be sleep walking and flipping a switch ot the pull cord in the bathroom?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Lord Oz - if you've nothing helpful, or at least funny to contribute, don't bother posting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭cormac_s


    Lord Oz wrote:
    Your mother?

    nah, at the end of the cleaned up one I thought it sounded a bit like a dog barking, followed by the bark of a smaller dog.

    not that i think thats it though. that cleaned up on is the standard way to clean audio (as in standard by paranormal researchers) - personally i dont think one should clean up files - if you cant hear it clearly then it isnt there in my book. at least that way you can forget about any form of matrixing. the only reason why I posted the cleaned up one is because I hear two different sounds in the unlceaned and cleaned up recording - which kinda goes to show that de-noising a file probably isnt always a good idea as it obviously effects the original sound in such a way to make it sound like something else.

    the camera is out in a hallway so theres no computer near it, and though the bathroom is near the camera, it would have had to have been either myself or my wife (as the camera is pointing in the direction of the kids' rooms and it would have videoed them walking towards the bathroom). If someone had went to the bathroom there would have been at least the sound of two doors opening and closing as well as the sound. in over an hour of audio, there were no other clear distinct sounds so it would seem logical that if it were a person, we would have heard more noises.

    The hosue has the death of a teenager in its history - quite recent too, back in 1998. the actual site of the accident was less than a quarter mile down the road (in fact not even that)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭ats


    cormac_s wrote:

    the camera is out in a hallway so theres no computer near it, and though the bathroom is near the camera, it would have had to have been either myself or my wife (as the camera is pointing in the direction of the kids' rooms and it would have videoed them walking towards the bathroom). If someone had went to the bathroom there would have been at least the sound of two doors opening and closing as well as the sound. in over an hour of audio, there were no other clear distinct sounds so it would seem logical that if it were a person, we would have heard more noises.

    The hosue has the death of a teenager in its history - quite recent too, back in 1998. the actual site of the accident was less than a quarter mile down the road (in fact not even that)


    just thought a PC coz i have one behind me at the mo with a dodgy HDD that makes noise similiar every once in a while.


    yeah i guess you're right about the people side of things moving about. worth a shot though.
    any dogs about the neighbourhood? or for that matter even if there are would you be able to hear them in this room of the house?
    on the shower chord bit, rethinking it the noise is very loud to be that, teh camera would have to be on top of the thing and then you'd defo hear someone moving about.
    you say its been strange stuff has been happening the last while is it always at teh same time? maybe it is related to that kid.


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