$50 STT Strategy

dvdfan

Hello,

I started playing STT's at $5 level with the hope of progressing high enough in the levels to make a nice second income. I worked on my game in the $5 level and had a good strategy but only started keeping records when i hit the $10 level. Ive now played a total of 129 recorded tourneys using the sng spreadsheet from the 2+2 forums. Ill post my results so far below but i know its too small a sample to judge properly but its there if you want to look.

$10 Level 5th Nov - 14th Nov
76 Tourneys | ROI 32.4% | ITM 46.1% |Profit $271.00 |
1st 18.4% | 2nd 14.5% | 3rd 13.2% | 4th 14.5%|

$20 Level 10th Nov - 14th Nov
55 Tourneys | ROI 47.3% | ITM 60.0% |Profit $572.00 |
1st 14.5% | 2nd 16.4% | 3rd 29.1% | 4th 14.5%|

Overall 5th Nov - 14th Nov
131 Tourneys | ROI 41.2% | ITM 51.9% |Profit $843.00|
1st 16.8% | 2nd 15.3% | 3rd 19.8% | 4th 14.5%|

I waited until i had 20 buyins before moving up levels and im getting fairly close to having enough buyins to move from the $20 level to the $50 level. My question is what kind of gap is there between the $20 level to the $50, if im very comfortable with a 20 buyin at either $10 or $20 do you think 20 buyins are enough at $50 or is there that much of a gap in the difference of players.

I plan on dropping back to the $20 level if my bankroll goes below 20 buyins and id be fairly confident i can build that back up fairly quick so im looking for advice from people that made this move. I know i expect my ROI to decrease at the new level even though my ROI increased from $10 to $20 but thats probably due to the small sample.

I play on PPP btw but im moving to GJP as soon as i hit the $50 level. Im also building a seperate bankroll on Full Tilt, which im currently at the $10 level so thats why youll see both $10 and $20 STT's been recorded at the same time.

I know there is other posts on this issue and i searched but any i can find are about the lower levels so i want to get advice from people who have moved from $20 to $50 as i think its a completely different ball game than moving through the smaller levels.

I also know that my sample is too small but i included it because i need to make the decision soon on wheter to move up with 20 buyins and its the only info i have on my game so it might help or maybe its useless.

When i hit the $50 level i plan on taking a weekly wage from the profits and leave some of the profits to continue to build my bankroll to eventually play $100 - $200 but im in no hurry to hit that level yet.

Thanks

Da GOAT

Good job on your profits.

On a positive note;

if you have 20 buyins etc then of course take a punt at another level. But as you said DO drop down if your losing. DO NOT keep play thinking your just getting unlucky (it will hurt your development)

if you are comfortable with the buyin as oppssed to playing with scared money then good for you.


Negitive note;

Your stats are unsustainable.
sample way too small for you to be consider a good player (tho you seem decent)
I hope you are constantly studying etc as you play.


also no one can decide for you, if your comfortable just try a few $50's mixed in with your $20's.

ArmaniJeanss

I really think that ~50 tourneys over 6 days at $20 is not a big enough sample, its not even a medium-sized enough sample.

Personally I'd recommend you move to $25 STTs rather than $50s, play at least 200 of them and see what your ROI is.

Just because you have the bankroll for a certain level doesnt mean you have to move up.

Bp!

After a break for a few months from tribecca ive played about 3 STTS in ast few days there and I dont think youve too much to be worried about, they played like a $5 Stts on stars lol

Just play tight patient poker and avoid the early carnages, but to answer your Q no, theres not too much of a difference from what i remember in the jump

digiman

Tribeca is very soft when it comes to STTs. Poker Stars on the other hand i think is very tough and you actually need to have your head at the table to make sure of just making the money. I honestly think the $25 on Tribeca is comparable to the $10 on Stars.

PiperT

IMO there's very little difference in standard between $25 and $50 STT's on Tribeca.

Have you tried this level to test the water ?

I would also play off several skins rather than stick to one as you will find yourself bumping into the same regulars a lot. They will get to know your style very quickly and adapt.

dvdfan

PiperT wrote:

IMO there's very little difference in standard between $25 and $50 STT's on Tribeca.

Have you tried this level to test the water ?

I would also play off several skins rather than stick to one as you will find yourself bumping into the same regulars a lot. They will get to know your style very quickly and adapt.

Thanks lads, i knew the sample size was too small but im fairly confident my stats are because of good solid play rather than variance and luck, i play tight early stages, i dont call bets i dont have the odds to and just play good abc poker and turn aggressive once the blinds become valuable enough eg 100/200 but i try to get reads at the same time and can mix it up accordingly.

I know my stats are unsustainable but i play a good few hours a day i only multitable 2 max and i think this is helping my stats alot because i can get good reads which i couldnt get multitabling 4+. I seem to be coming up against alot of player over and over again so once i hit the $50 level im going to start taking detailed notes on players because ill be playing at that level for a long time and it can give me a big advantage.

Im also playing Full Tilt $10 and my stats are comparible to my $10 tribeca stats even though its a completely different structure (Is full tilt stt's softish too) so im reasonably confident i wont have a disastrous time at the $50 level and it wouldnt be all doom and gloom if i had to drop back to the $20 level if i had a bad start in the $50. I lodged $50 with Full Tilt to check out the tourney structure only about a week ago and have it up to nearly $200 so im going to build that as a seperate bankroll and move through the levels there too....Hopefully:)

willietherock

DVDFan,
does that sng spreadsheet from the 2+2 forums you mention work only with Excel? Would it work with Microsoft Works Spreadsheet.
As somone tring to grind away at the same level as yourself, your results are depressingly good.

dvdfan

willietherock wrote:

DVDFan,
does that sng spreadsheet from the 2+2 forums you mention work only with Excel? Would it work with Microsoft Works Spreadsheet.
As somone tring to grind away at the same level as yourself, your results are depressingly good.

Yep youll need excel but its worth it. See pm i sent you

RasTa

I am also doing this on saturday after i blew my BR messing about(was never big to start with) I started at the $3 level with $20. I then moved up to $5 with $40. Then up to $10 with $120.
I now have over 20 buy-ins for $15 level but I dont want to jump 4 levels in less then a week.

What seems to be working is 4 sessions a day of two tabling the 6 seaters on Tribeca(so 10 tourneys a day) but I'm awaiting the crash and burn. Is there much of a difference between the $10 and $20? as I noticed that the 10 was a lot more aggressive compared to the $5.

dvdfan

RasTa wrote:

I am also doing this on saturday after i blew my BR messing about(was never big to start with) I started at the $3 level with $20. I then moved up to $5 with $40. Then up to $10 with $120.
I now have over 20 buy-ins for $15 level but I dont want to jump 4 levels in less then a week.

What seems to be working is 4 sessions a day of two tabling the 6 seaters on Tribeca(so 10 tourneys a day) but I'm awaiting the crash and burn. Is there much of a difference between the $10 and $20? as I noticed that the 10 was a lot more aggressive compared to the $5.

There is little or no difference, my stats are better on the $20 than on the $10 but i think your better waiting until you have enough buyins and move directly to the $20 when you have enough rather than mixing $10 and $20 and just trying a few here and there, get stuck in and be willing to lose a few as you could start off with a losing run but if you continue to play the way you did at the $10 level you should be grand.

Good Luck