Thought Forms

6th

Ok thinking about things recently and when I go looking to find out more I find the below article. It sparks some interesting idea:

Nonphysical entities which exist in either the mental or astral plane. Each entity is created from the thought. Every thought is said to generate vibrations in the aura's mental body, which assume a floating form and colors depending on the nature and intensity of the thought. These thought-forms are usually seen by clairvoyants; and may be intuitively sensed by others.

Theosophists and clairvoyants Annie Besant and C. W. Leadbeater placed thought-forms in three classifications: (1) the image of the thinker (see Bilocation); (2) an image of a material object associated with the thought; and (3) an independent image expressing the inherent qualities of the thought. Thoughts which are of a low nature, such as anger, hate, lust, greed, and so on, create thought-forms which are dense in color and form. Thought of a more spiritual nature tend to generate forms possessing a greater purity, clarity, and refinement.

Thought-forms can be directed toward anyone, but to be effective they must latch onto a similar vibration in the other person’s aura. If they are unable to do so, they can boomerang back on the sender. Thus, working according to the occult theory, one who directs evil toward another runs the risk of having it return.

The strength and clarity of the original thought determines the duration, strength and the distance of travel of its developed thought-form. It is said that thought-forms can have the capability to assume their own energy and appear to be intelligent and independent. Equally strong thought-forms can disperse them, or they may disintegrate when their purpose has been accomplished. Some may stay in existence for years, while others can become uncontrollable and turn on their senders.

Thought-forms, in magic, are also called "artificial elements," which are created through ritual involving intense concentration, repetition, and visualization. (see Egrigor) They can be directed toward individuals to protect or heal, or to harm. Also, thought-forms can be created to perform low-level tasks and errands.

Other thought-forms can occur spontaneously, for example, "Group minds" that emerge whenever a group of people concentrate on the same thought, ideas, or goals, such as a team of employees or a crowd of demonstrators. To a certain extent the group-mind possesses the group, such is seen in psychic bonding and power that coalesces in crowds, and in the synergy of a close-knit working group. Usually when the group disbands the power of the group-mind dissipates too.

Nevyn

What type of intresting ideas ?

triskell

6th wrote:

Ok thinking about things recently and when I go looking to find out more I find the below article. It sparks some interesting idea:

theres alot a to chew on there
whats the source of the article?

Suebh

Hi 6th,

Very interesting article and very timely too as tonight I have been talking with someone who has active energy or poltergheist (thats what it sounds like to me anyhow) as opposed to spirit. After a lengthy chat I arranged to visit this persons house tomorrow and have a look for myself to get a better idea. Alot of what you have posted is what I thought and said to this person too. If you have any other interesting ideas on this any chance you can post them?

Thanks

Sue

Aisling&M

That is very interesting and sits comfortably with me!
I do also believe that certain people are able to create such 'thought forms' more easily than others......I have tried but I have a friend who has sent thought forms to me for only positive reasons and almost every time it has created a physical effect in my life! She is magnificent at 'making things happen' and I would love to hear what you think about people aptitude to this.

6th

Thaedydal wrote:

What type of intresting ideas ?

I'm glad you asked

I understand from some of what I've read that thought forms are not usually very detailed in there appearance but if someone can unknowingly create a thought form of themselves, could this account for some cases where people see a "ghost" of themselves?

Could these TF account for situations where people, on there death bed, appear to close friends and family of long distances?

If it is possible for a TF to take on a personality of its own could this account for some reports of what are known as "shadow entities"?

As Sue noted could Poltergeist activity be the result of a type of TF?

The strength and clarity of the original thought determines the duration, strength and the distance of travel of its developed thought-form.

Could the above lead us to think that maybe, similarily to Stone Tape Theory, a traumatic event could cause a TF which could exist over a large period of time in a specific place which some would view as a haunting?

I've lots more buzzing around my head but its early and I haven't eaten.

6th

dfaf wrote:

theres alot a to chew on there
whats the source of the article?

I booked marked it at home so dont have the link here but if you Google the names in the first part of the quote you'll find plenty of information, including a downloadable ebook on the subject.

6th

I think in many Poltergeist cases it is caused subconsciously by one or more people. Then they become aware of the activity, freak out, and it builds and builds.

Of course Poltergeist activity to me is simply a discription of "haunting" where there is physically activity such as knocking, moving objects etc.

I'd suggest something to put your friends mind at easeshould see a noticable decrease in happenings.

Suebh wrote:

Hi 6th,

Very interesting article and very timely too as tonight I have been talking with someone who has active energy or poltergheist (thats what it sounds like to me anyhow) as opposed to spirit. After a lengthy chat I arranged to visit this persons house tomorrow and have a look for myself to get a better idea. Alot of what you have posted is what I thought and said to this person too. If you have any other interesting ideas on this any chance you can post them?

Thanks

Sue

6th

Aisling&M wrote:

That is very interesting and sits comfortably with me!
I do also believe that certain people are able to create such 'thought forms' more easily than others......I have tried but I have a friend who has sent thought forms to me for only positive reasons and almost every time it has created a physical effect in my life! She is magnificent at 'making things happen' and I would love to hear what you think about people aptitude to this.

The whole idea of positive thinking sits in with all this. I posted a story in the "Ghosts in the News" thread a while back about an event taking place at 3 places around the world where there joint efforts would help grounded spirits to moveon, similar events on a smaller scale have been organised to send healing after the Sunami and other disasters.

Its amazing to think of the good we as people are capable of.

kshiel

I printed off that little e book by Annie Besant and C.W. Leadbeater, got only half way through this last night but it really is food for thought. Very interesting read, recommend peple here should read it. It really brings home the power of thought, what its effects can be on oneself and those around us. When you think about it everything people do is generally a thought first, and the power behind a thought can have huge effects on peoples lives. I know that most people know that anyway, through their belief systems etc, but it still would make you think about what effects people cause to themselves and others by merely thinking about something strongly enough.

Dont know if this is the same link to article above 6th but I'll attach it anyway

http://www.anandgholap.net/Thought_Forms-AB_CWL.htm

6th

Thats not teh same one as mine but you can download an eBook here:

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/16269

It really is a very interesting read.

6th

For the record Tupla means "Double".

On the Creation of Tulpas

However interested we may feel in the other strange accomplishments with which Tibetan adepts of the secret lore are credited, the creation of thought forms seems by far the most puzzling.
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Phantoms, as Tibetans describe them, and those that I have myself seen do not resemble the apparitions, which are said to occur during spiritualist séances.

As I have said, some apparitions are created on purpose either by a lengthy process resembling that described in the former chapter on the visualization of Ydam or, in the case of proficient adepts, instantaneously or almost instantaneously. In other cases, apparently the author of the phenomenon generates it unconsciously, and is not even in the least aware of the apparition being seen by others.

However, the practice is considered as fraught with danger for every one who has not reached a high mental and spiritual degree of enlightenment and is not fully aware of the nature of the psychic forces at work in the process.

Once the tulpa is endowed with enough vitality to be capable of playing the part of a real being, it tends to free itself from its maker¹s control. This, say Tibetan occultists, happens nearly mechanically, just as the child, when his body is completed and able to live apart, leaves its mother¹s womb. Sometimes the phantom becomes a rebellious son and one hears of uncanny struggles that have taken place between magicians and their creatures, the former being severely hurt or even killed by the latter.

Tibetan magicians also relate cases in which the tulpa is sent to fulfill a mission, but does not come back and pursues its peregrinations as a half-conscious, dangerously mischievous puppet. The same thing, it is said, may happen when the maker of the tulpa dies before having dissolved it. Yet as a rule the phantom either disappears suddenly at the death of the magician or gradually vanishes like a body that perishes for want of food. On the other hand, some tulpas are expressly intended to survive their creator and are specially formed for that purpose.
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Must we credit these strange accounts of rebellious "materializations", phantoms which have become real beings, or must we reject them all as mere fantastic tales and wild products of imagination?

Perhaps the latter course is the wisest. I affirm nothing. I only relate what I have heard from people whom, in other circumstances, I had found trustworthy, but they may have deluded themselves in all sincerity.

Nevertheless, allowing for a great deal of exaggeration and sensational addition, I could hardly deny the possibility of visualizing and animating a tulpa. Besides having had few opportunities of seeing thought-forms, my habitual incredulity led me to make experiments for myself, and my efforts were attended with some success. In order to avoid being influenced by the forms of the lamaist deities, which I saw daily around me in paintings and images, I chose for my experiment a most insignificant character: a Monk, short and fat, of an innocent and jolly type.

I shut myself in tsams and proceeded to perform the prescribed concentration of thought and other rites. After a few months the phantom Monk was formed. His form grew gradually fixed and lifelike looking. He became a kind of guest, living in my apartment. I then broke my seclusion and started for a tour, with my servants and tents.

The Monk included himself in the party. Though I lived in the open, riding on horseback for miles each day, the illusion persisted. I saw the fat tulpa; now and then it was not necessary for me to think of him to make him appear. The phantom performed various actions of the kind that are natural to travelers and that I had not commanded. For instance, he walked, stopped, looked around him. The illusion was mostly visual, but sometimes I felt as if a robe was lightly rubbing against me, and once a hand seemed to touch my shoulder.

The features which I had imagined, when building my phantom, gradually underwent a change. The fat, chubby-cheeked fellow grew leaner, his face assumed a vaguely mocking, sly, malignant look. He became more troublesome and bold. In brief, he escaped my control. Once, a herdsman who brought me a present of butter saw the tulpa in my tent and took it for a living lama.

I ought to have let the phenomenon follow its course, but the presence of that unwanted companion began to prove trying to my nerves; it turned into a "day-nightmare". Moreover, I was beginning to plan my journey to Lhasa and needed a quiet brain devoid of other preoccupations, so I decided to dissolve the phantom. I succeeded, but only after six months of hard struggle. My mind-creature was tenacious of life.

There is nothing strange in the fact that I may have created my own hallucination. The interesting point is that in these cases of materialization, others see the thought-forms that have been created.

Alexandra David-Neel
Magic and Mystery in Tibet.
University Books Inc., 1965

6th

Would it be possible for one of our wonderful mods to see about moving this to the Paganism forum where I'd like to see it looked at from a different perspective? I think its run its course here and should probably been started over there anyway.

cheers,

6th