Questions about Tribeca/Ipoker merge

Shortstack

The Bluesq team are meeting with Ipoker on Thursday. If any of you have any questions or concerns then please post them in this thread and I will make sure they get to them in time to be asked at the meeting.

Since I posted earlier I have spoken to Bluesquare and they are confident that the move will have a long term benefit to the players. The Tribeca software simply cannot keep up with the competition and the back end of the Ipoker software is much more user friendly allowing for more flexibility in tournaments etc.

The timescale is up to 6 months before any transfer takes place and the cages and Tribeca are committed to making sure that the changes are as smooth as possible.

sikes

is it rigged?

califano

Will players still be able to withdraw direct to their cc?. I wouldnt like it if i wasnt able to anymore.

If the transition doesnt go smoothly in the early stages and there are problems like Betfair or disconnection problems etc will players be reimbursed?

bohsman

bsq are leaving tribeca? ul mike and tom.

Shortstack

bohsman wrote:

bsq are leaving tribeca? ul mike and tom.

Tribeca is leaving Tribeca...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055015078

bohsman

Ul, I detest ipoker, Full Tilt to be the biggest network by June.

MrPillowTalk

Will tribeca still be executing an exit strategy in the US market now its changed hands?

Will the bb/buyin levels change with the new software?

Is it the same RNG software?

Can they press my win button?

bops

MrPillowTalk wrote:

Can they find my win button?

slightly ammended question from me - thanks!

Ste05

MrPillowTalk wrote:

Will tribeca still be executing an exit strategy in the US market now its changed hands?

Playtech already pulled out as they are a publicly limited company...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7540416&an=0&page=0#Post7540416

Shortstack

MrPillowTalk wrote:

Will tribeca still be executing an exit strategy in the US market now its changed hands?

Will the bb/buyin levels change with the new software?

Is it the same RNG software?

Can they press my win button?

Will tribeca still be executing an exit strategy in the US market now its changed hands? It will become a non US player network. There are plenty of non US fish. Doyles & Golden Palace have to find a new home which is going to be difficult as most of the existing networks have a non-US strategy.

Will the bb/buyin levels change with the new software? I expect so. Will ask.

Is it the same RNG software? I don't think so, will ask.

Can they press my win button? It is pressed but some players are so bad they still can't win......

califano

bohsman wrote:

Ul, I detest ipoker.

Why do you say this?. I dont know of ipoker myself.

ocallagh

ok a few questions!!

1) I already have an account with Noble Poker. Will this complicate things?
2) If our username is taken by an existing ipoker player what happens?
3) Will ipoker try to migrate some of the existing tournament strutures? eg the 99 rebuy etc? (I hear a lot of you lol but i like them!)
4) Will the new hand history format be supported by pokertracker?
5) Will player notes be migrated
6) same with buddy list
7) What about action points
8) Also, what about player bonuses, loaylty programs etc

bohsman

rounders123 wrote:

Why do you say this?. I dont know of ipoker myself.

Noble poker. And that cdpoker that were giving away free money recently. Betfairs move suddenly looks reasonable.

Scotty #

Shortstack wrote:

The Bluesq team are meeting with Ipoker on Thursday. If any of you have any questions or concerns then please post them in this thread and I will make sure they get to them in time to be asked at the meeting.

Its not really clear, are BlueSq leaving Tribeca for Ipoker or are Tribeca and Ipoker merging?

EDIT: NEVERMIND Just read the link on your post Mike.

Will there be rakeback?

Brendygg

ya,good question, will there be rakeback?

what will happen the likes of VC and PPP?

ocallagh

bohsman wrote:

Noble poker. And that cdpoker that were giving away free money recently. Betfairs move suddenly looks reasonable.

Noble Poker's not too bad. reminded me a lot of partypoker.the one thing that annyoed me was their constant marketing... it didn't stop at emails either. i used to get dozens of letters from them in the door.. also, when logging on u have to use your account ID which is not your screen name. It's a 10 digit alpha-numeric code which I can never remember! The software is fine IMO

Ste05

Will existing affiliate agreements with Tribeca/BlueSq skins be honoured??

Shortstack

ocallagh wrote:

ok a few questions!!

1) I already have an account with Noble Poker. Will this complicate things?
2) If our username is taken by an existing ipoker player what happens?
3) Will ipoker try to migrate some of the existing tournament strutures? eg the 99 rebuy etc? (I hear a lot of you lol but i like them!)
4) Will the new hand history format be supported by pokertracker?
5) Will player notes be migrated
6) same with buddy list
7) What about action points
8) Also, what about player bonuses, loaylty programs etc

1) I already have an account with Noble Poker. Will this complicate things? should not matter, similar to you having an account with PPP and joining PPP
2) If our username is taken by an existing ipoker player what happens? Will ask - had thought of that myself as I have an account there.
3) Will ipoker try to migrate some of the existing tournament strutures? eg the 99 rebuy etc? (I hear a lot of you lol but i like them!) The plan is to have similar tournaments but the ability to add more variety.
4) Will the new hand history format be supported by pokertracker? Will check if Ipoker is supported.
5) Will player notes be migrated Will ask
6) same with buddy list Will ask
7) What about action points Will ask
8) Also, what about player bonuses, loaylty programs etc Should be unaffected - will confirm

Scotty #

I just noticed Tribeca are paying more than 27 now in MTTs

Ste05

Shortstack wrote:

4) Will the new hand history format be supported by pokertracker? Will check if Ipoker is supported.

It is..

ocallagh

cheers mike!

ps: just saw that pokertracker also support MTTs and STTs for ipoker.

dacman

Hi ShortStack

What do u think will happen to doyles room and golden palace. Is there any possibility that these may merge and keep the same software as tribeca or is the software layout going to disappear totally.

Regards

DAC

PPP-Pit Boss

ocallagh wrote:

1) I already have an account with Noble Poker. Will this complicate things?

A technical solution will be written so this will not be an issue.

ocallagh wrote:

2) If our username is taken by an existing ipoker player what happens?

Again we will scope up a technical solution for this. I believe you will be offered a slight variation of your existing username.

ocallagh wrote:

3) Will ipoker try to migrate some of the existing tournament strutures? eg the 99 rebuy etc? (I hear a lot of you lol but i like them!)

New tournaments will be added, to reflect player preferences this is one of the easier aspects of migration

ocallagh wrote:

4) Will the new hand history format be supported by pokertracker?

Unknown at this time will investigate

ocallagh wrote:

5) Will player notes be migrated?

No I am afraid this is not possible

ocallagh wrote:

6) same with buddy list

Not technically possible for the same reason

ocallagh wrote:

7) What about action points

We will migrate AP's a technical solution will be put in place, they will be re-calculated to reflect the IP structure and you will have them on migration

ocallagh wrote:

8) Also, what about player bonuses, loaylty programs etc

The IP network has an Extremely flexible bonus, loyalty programme there will also be a built in VIP system.

PPP-Pit Boss

Brendygg wrote:

ya,good question, will there be rakeback?

what will happen the likes of VC and PPP?

Playtech have a VERY Strict policy of 0 rakeback on the network. However they do have an in built VIP programme.
At one point rakeback did exist on the network however, this led to cannabalism etc and was then seen as a poor and short term marketing ploy. There is now a zero tolerence policy which includes penalties for violation.

masterK

If the usernames change, even if they are a variation on existing names this will be a right pain for Pokertracker users. All of the users in the database will have new names so there will need to be some kind of conversion utility.

PPP-Pit Boss

dacman wrote:

Hi ShortStack

What do u think will happen to doyles room and golden palace. Is there any possibility that these may merge and keep the same software as tribeca or is the software layout going to disappear totally.

Regards

DAC

This is extremely doubtful as TT are withdrawing from the US market due to legalities and therefore software support would be unavailable.

NickyOD

For anyone concerned about Pokertracker. iPoker is supported by PT with their latest update.

As long as my bankroll continues to grow on GJP I don't give a ****e what the software looks like. As long I'm playing against the same muppets, who cares?

I am worried though that if they don't offer rakeback then I'll be forced to leave. I mean I'm getting up to 50% on some other sites.

ocallagh

PPP-Pit Boss wrote:

A technical solution will be written so this will not be an issue.

Again we will scope up a technical solution for this. I believe you will be offered a slight variation of your existing username.
New tournaments will be added, to reflect player preferences this is one of the easier aspects of migration
Unknown at this time will investigate
No I am afraid this is not possible
Not technically possible for the same reason
We will migrate AP's a technical solution will be put in place, they will be re-calculated to reflect the IP structure and you will have them on migration The IP network has an Extremely flexible bonus, loyalty programme there will also be a built in VIP system.

Is this still the case? Everyone is saying you must use up your APs prior to merger....

TacT

PPP-Pit Boss wrote:

Playtech have a VERY Strict policy of 0 rakeback on the network. However they do have an in built VIP programme.
At one point rakeback did exist on the network however, this led to cannabalism etc and was then seen as a poor and short term marketing ploy. There is now a zero tolerence policy which includes penalties for violation.

*coughs* how come when getting a constant stream of deposit bonus offers from an operator on the network I decided to reply to an email and got offered a rakeback deal, sign up bonus and entry to a few tournaments alongside a small $20 insta bonus for opening an account with them on this network?

ArmaniJeanss

Re: Usernames.
Seems a bit unfair that you get given a new username only if your Tribeca one is already taken on Playtech - I think everyone should be offered a new username when they upgrade - I've got 5 mortal enemies at the last count who I'd like to start afresh with (as in I'd hate if they knew me but I didn't know them cause they'd had a name change).

STTs - is it going to be the Tribeca structure or the Playtech structure - I can play the Tribeca structure on autopilot, the Playtech blinds seem very different?

Mr. Flibble

Armani, you could go and sign up with them before the merger, with a new name. Or can sign up with some other Tribeca cage with a new screen name.

karlh

ocallagh wrote:

Is this still the case? Everyone is saying you must use up your APs prior to merger....

No need to use up APs, with ppp anyway - they will be converted to their new value on migration to iPoker. Each room on Tribeca is doing things their own way so I cant speak for Blue Sq, VC etc.

karlh

TacT wrote:

*coughs* how come when getting a constant stream of deposit bonus offers from an operator on the network I decided to reply to an email and got offered a rakeback deal, sign up bonus and entry to a few tournaments alongside a small $20 insta bonus for opening an account with them on this network?

policies are policies and enforcement is enforcement. When the networks merge things will clean up a lot.

There are some very generic, casino focused rooms on the network. Try pinging into live support and see how many casino bonus offers they can cram into one sentence

karlh

ArmaniJeanss wrote:

STTs - is it going to be the Tribeca structure or the Playtech structure - I can play the Tribeca structure on autopilot, the Playtech blinds seem very different?

There will be a mixture. Some Tribeca structures will be migrated and we will have our own custom structured STTs, MTTs and special Cash Tables.

Shortstack

You dont need to rush to use your action points on GJP either, they will be converted to playtechs system.

green123

tells us the provisional date for the merge
or most probable date ?

karlh

green123 wrote:

tells us the provisional date for the merge
or most probable date ?

no.



tbc.

green123

why is this such a big secret ?
alot of players on tribeca dont even know there will be a merge !!!

Mr. Flibble

green123 wrote:

tells us the provisional date for the merge
or most probable date ?

There are tournys registering for up to the 26th Feb. That might be an indication of how long we have...then again, they might just move the tourny to the new network.

green123

Mr. Flibble wrote:

There are tournys registering for up to the 26th Feb. That might be an indication of how long we have...then again, they might just move the tourny to the new network.

yeah i noticed and was thinking the same

Scotty #

Playtech wrote:

Acquisition of Tribeca
13 November 2006


Playtech Limited

("Playtech" or "the Company")

Acquisition of leading poker network to enhance Playtech's poker offering


Playtech (AIM: PTEC), the listed international designer, developer and licensor of software for the online and land-based gaming industry, is pleased to announce today that it has agreed to acquire certain assets and undertaking of Tribeca Tables Europe Limited ("Tribeca"). The acquisition is subject to the satisfaction of a number of conditions.

Tribeca is a software designer that provides a poker network solution to a number of the world's most respected online poker operators such as VCPoker, PaddyPower Poker and Blue Square Poker. In addition to software development, Tribeca also specialises in e-marketing and the development of online poker communities. Most recently, Tribeca announced that the Tain poker network would be joining the Tribeca network, of which the Scandinavian group, Expekt, is the largest customer.

In the 12 months to 31 December 2005, the assets to be acquired generated turnover of c. US$6.2m and gross profits of c. S$5.3m and in respect of the last three calendar months preceding the date of the acquisition, the assets to be acquired generated a turnover of c. US$3.9m and gross profits of c. US$3.4m.*

Following Tribeca's decision to block certain territories, including the US, the entire Tribeca network will cease its operations n six months from the date of the agreement, by which time the migration of the online poker operators to Playtech's platform is planned to be complete.

from http://www.playtech.com/html/main.php?page=41&id=110

I see Party Gaming will be using Playtech also.

Playtech wrote:

02 January 2007


Playtech Limited
('Playtech' or 'the Company')

New Software Licensing Agreement With PartyGaming Plc ('PartyGaming')

Further to the statement issued by PartyGaming on Friday 29 December 2006 on
the acquisition of certain businesses and assets from both Empire Online
Limited ('EOL') and Intercontinental Online Gaming Limited ('Intercontinental'),
Playtech (AIM:PTEC) is pleased to announce that the Company has entered into
a new long term software licensing agreement with PartyGaming. This agreement
is subject to the successful completion of the above stated acquisition that
is currently seeking shareholder approval from EOL.

TacT

karlh wrote:

There will be a mixture. Some Tribeca structures will be migrated and we will have our own custom structured STTs, MTTs and special Cash Tables.

There haven't been any announcements about rakeback being withdrawn for people already receiving 25/30%+ deals thus far though.

As an aside, I am not fond of the software personally. There will also be no more 9 seater ring games for anyone who cares. It will be HU/6 seater/10 seaters from here onwards.

/edit bleh, quoted wrong post but I'm sure you know which one I should have.

karlh

no big secret about migration, just a date hasn't been confirmed yet so there's no point in me guessing and being wrong. it is happening as soon as technically possible.

as for rakeback, anyone receiving rakeback on iPoker won't anymore.

PiperT

I'm not familiar with the new network but I am curious about capacity and stability. With such an increase in traffic I hope their software/infrastrcutre can cope. Have they stress tested the platform ? We are all aware of the downtime on tribeca, not to mention continuous cashier problems. I hope these issues will all be resolved.

DeVore

Lets just say that GJP will be valuing their customers loyalty just as highly when we transfer over as we have to date.

DeV.

karlh

PiperT wrote:

I'm not familiar with the new network but I am curious about capacity and stability. With such an increase in traffic I hope their software/infrastrcutre can cope.

Playtech have over 200 dedicated developers working so this will not be an issue. Nothing will be left to chance and once everyone has made the move, iPoker will be the largest European facing network. Cosmetic issues will be dealt with in time but the backend is top class.

cooker3

DeVore wrote:

Lets just say that GJP will be valuing their customers loyalty just as highly when we transfer over as we have to date.

DeV.

Ever think of becoming a politician Dev

DeVore

cooker3 wrote:

Ever think of becoming a politician Dev

I couldnt possibly comment....


DeV.

Ste05

karlh wrote:

as for rakeback, anyone receiving rakeback on iPoker won't anymore.

I haven't heard yet for definite, but I HIGHLY doubt this is the case..

ianmc38

DeVore wrote:

I couldnt possibly comment....


DeV.

I laughed alot at that.

phantom_lord

is there going to be a restriction on the number of tables you can play?