Scumbag Mentality

Mexicola

This is from the Irish Independent.

Irish Independent wrote:

AN ESB worker was severely burned after vandals threw a chain over a powerline.

The incident occurred in one of two recent attacks on an ESB transformer station in Co Clare, which resulted in nearby homes and businesses being evacuated.

The ESB yesterday warned of the "serious safety implications" of acts of vandalism on its overhead electricity network.

The engineer was injured while helping to evacuate the area around the power station at Ashline, Ennis, after vandals attacked it.

The man suffered severe burns and was hospitalised after the incident on October 6. It is known that a chain was thrown onto the equipment, resulting in a small explosion and fire. Several homes and businesses were left without power for several hours.

Vandals struck again at the same site on Monday November 6. But no one was injured in the incident. "Those carrying out the vandalism risk serious injury and possible death, as well as compromising the safety of people living in the area", said an ESB spokesman.

A local businessman said: "The first day it happened, we were all told to leave the area and move onto the road but away from where the transformer was. There was a loud bang and a burst of sparks before the lights went out. It is lucky no one was killed.

"When it happened the second time we couldn‘t believe it. The guards know who did this and hopefully they will take action."

No matter how hard I try I fail to understand this type of behaviour... now there is all types of scumbaggery around us these days and increasingly so but this ranks up there with the likes of attacking firemen doing their job. What possesses people to behave like this?. Its bullsh*t to say that they are 'bored' or whatever. Also the bit at the end that says 'hopefully the guards will take action'. Shows great faith in our police force!

Ruu_Old

Another scumbag thread. Yes this scumbaggery is happening too often these days. A slap on the wrist, yes..yess that'll fix it.

kevmy

I'm always at a loss when I see this type of behaviour. I just wonder if these people could every really live in proper civilised society. I don't know how to catch them or what to do if they were caught. Sure we could throw them in jail but they'll get out eventually and probably be worse when they do.

doubledown

If anything, I think we should be encouraging scumbags all across the land to play in ESB transformer stations.

Catch my drift?

Pighead

Pigheads sick and tired of all this scumbag bashing. Yeah, sure users like degsy and coolsmileygirl are a bit rough around the edges and tend to talk funny but that doesn't mean they're horrible people.

Scumbags have feelings too. Lay off the scumbashing.:mad:

Kojak

doubledown wrote:

If anything, I think we should be encouraging scumbags all across the land to play in ESB transformer stations.

Catch my drift?

Aoife-FM104

Look! There's a football...

c - 13

It could work, brightly coloured power stations with big signs on the doors saying "Please do not enter". Sure they wouldnt be able to resist and then when theyre inside big pulsing cables with black ash all over them and another sign saying "Oh please, please do not touch this cable".

The best part is no one could claim they werent given fair warning !

Binomate

I'm not one for execution, but they should execute the vandals by means of electric chair, for that added bonus of irony. That'll teach.

Dyr

Am i the only person who thinks esb stations shouldnt have this kind of equipment within the reach (or throwing distance) of passing randomers?

Could be crazy talk though.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you might be, how else are we to ensure people stupid enough to touch this kind of equipment don't breed and raise stupid children?

if we do it ourselves we'll be slapped down by the UN

Splinter

scumbag targeting tazers FTW!! these should be attached to EVERYTHING!

Heisenberg.

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RoundyMooney

Bambi wrote:

Am i the only person who thinks esb stations shouldnt have this kind of equipment within the reach (or throwing distance) of passing randomers?

Yes, it's also the ESB's fault when Anto sticks his fingers in a lampholder for de buzz maaaan.

Bambi wrote:

Could be crazy talk though.

Hey, you said it.

How much cotton wool should we wrap around 'tards to protect them from themselves?

ciaranr

Let's have mass deportations to the Russian coalfields or indeed anywhere for convicted scumbags. This solution would give the Gardai a real goal when pursuing criminals, as opposed to the mandatory suspended sentence that ******** judges are handing down. How would the Gardai be bothered when they know that the scumbag who just assaulted an elderly person or burned out a car will just get a minimal sentence. Let's have some real punishment and retribution for scumbags who are convicted.

Rb

Irish Independent wrote:

Those carrying out the vandalism risk serious injury and possible death

Hopefully, if they try it a third time they kill themselves in the process. Much better than any slap on the wrists the Gardaí will give them.

Capt'n Midnight

Bambi wrote:

Am i the only person who thinks esb stations shouldnt have this kind of equipment within the reach (or throwing distance) of passing randomers?

Could be crazy talk though.

throwing distance for a chain - swinging it around it your head to build up momentum before letting go ?

Or how much would the land cost for a clear zone in a resedential area where you can fit 9 housing units on a acre ?

if caught then they or their parents should be sued for damages - transformers aren't cheap - two attacks means it ain't a one off.

User45701

this is just a copy and paste from the last thread that was locked so some of you might not if read it.

It was originally about scumbags at Halloween but it can serve well here aswell

dr.bollocko wrote:

Well at least the chinese aint gonna blast fireworks out of buckfast bottles at 3:30 in the morning, aiming for houses, passing cars, and yer mates hole.

We have now tipped the balance and become a country of morons, social welfare dependant, slack jawed, sky digital addicted dip****s.
I dont think that intelligence could possible defeat this, its time for every meek, normal intelligent person to get a black belt in a martial art. Lets beat them at their own game!

It would be very bloody but i have been saying for years its what we have to do
the trick is to use our intelligence set traps and such.

for example i remember from when i was younger (underage) there was problems with these people you called them

dr.bollocko wrote:

morons, social welfare dependant, slack jawed, sky digital addicted dip****s

I like the word primitives myself anyway as i was saying i remember those types and some of my friends where attacked for no reason and you read all the time about people being attacked for phones and such.

The trick is we have to lure these primitives into traps like for example have 1 small weak looking guy walking down the road (stumbling, acting drunk) with white headphones on (making it look like he has a nice I-pod or PSP)

So then he just walks around for a little while, once he is attacked several people attack the primitive(s) who where trying to attack this man, the primitives would have to be killed of coarse. (filmed of coarse to prove that those primitives deserved to die) several operations like that in Ireland with allot of primitive fatality's would be a good start to solving the issues of the

FlutterinBantam wrote:

decent lawabiding citizens are terrorised by thugs and skangers

We cant all complain we have do have to do something

Motley Crue wrote:

a mates car was done in and his stuff robbed by 7yr olds!**** sake!:mad:

Lets take a poll -

Who here would not care if Motley and his mates had of beaten these 7 year olds unconscious (they could have just filmed them doing the car damage before they attacked and then i don't think those kids will do that again will they?

Right or Wrong to stop those kids yourself? remember don't say call the gardai we all know how long it would take them to get there

letterman wrote:

Better again, why not organise residents associations to herd the local undesirables onto their own bonfires. The amount of alcohol consumed by the underage darlings should contribute in no small way to the cleansing process.

An interesting idea, I had always thought of the idea of covering the ground in a orderless flammable substance so when the fire is lit then the entire field goes up however this is not a good idia because there is always the chance of innocent deaths which would lose support for the eradication of the primtives. Best only to hurt the ones u are 100% sure about

Karl Hungus wrote:

Stop winging, and do something about it yourself.

That does not help

CiaranC wrote:

more whining, does it ever stop?

Yes, When the problem exists no longer.

5starpool wrote:

We should just shoot all knackers. This would have the added bonus of cleaning up tracts of land for new houses in some prime land, as opposed to the yolks that are built there now.

Unfortunately it wont work its too general (not all knackers are bad) and you risk casualties because they do possess a certain physical prowess.

Weathercheck wrote:

What we need is someone to teach these little runts about morales. In recent years the chav culture has crossed the Irish sea and infested the Irish youth. It's a disease worse than that of cancer. No longer can the Irish laugh about being alcholics, what used to be a novelty is now a severe epidemic among the youth. Obviously the parents of today are not parenting like they should and correct punishments being implemented. Why the hell are 13-15 year olds allowed out until 2am anyway?? When i was 15 my parents would have me home by 11 or i may have pushed it to 12 and they would at least try to know where i was. Nowadays these scumbags in the making are out drinking gallons of alcohol, taking all sorts of drugs and committing all sorts of crime

I think its more morales than anything else. I have to disagree with your stance on drink tho, your giving excessive underage drinkers a worse name, just like the knackers there are good ones. when myself and my friends where 15/16 we drank very late and drank too much as u do when your that age but we never attacked anyone. I cant comment on the drugs part i have only tried hash/weed and mushies both natural and such i cant comment on other drugs. Do they make u attack people for no reason? considering that primitives will attack someone when sober and not on drugs i honestly think it is a problem with there brain chemistry and morals.

Weathercheck wrote:

. The young girls of today are sluts and the "good" ones are pressurised into conforming into what is now the majority. Our whole culture has changed, the youth are being given far far too much freedom.

If they allow themselves to be pressurised into conforming it means they always had a bit of that nature in them and peer pressure is NO excuse.
Its not that they have too much freedom its that they haven't been shown the consequences of what they have done and they haven't been punished severely by this government enough.

Weathercheck wrote:

.We need more guards, we need to target the parents of these children with severe action (fines, imprisonment). At the end of the day, parents should be in control of their children, teach them basic manners and morales. There are no more "good" areas in Dublin, the chav culture has spread put from the so called poor areas to the large middle class suburbs of Dublin.

Last night here in Portmarnock, there was stabbings, massive brawls and fights. All of which were brought on by drink and drugs. At the moment the main reason for such fights here is because of the ever growing chav youth v the older fashioned more responsible youth (certainly not perfect people).

To be honest we dont need more guards, we dont im sorry, what we need is better trained and tougher gardai! That recent 11m herrion siezure was good news but i have to say the gardai are spending too much time on stupid irrelvent things. summences for pissing against a wall at 4am when the bouncers wouldent let my mate back into the pub. countless 1000`s of stupid things the gardai spend there time on if they just focused on the hard drugs and the petty the problem would be solved. How many of you ever read the paper and feel sick?

ex.
"Youth 16, Male arrested and brought to ratfarnham gardai station, suspect was arrested with 3 phones, Jack Danials and a pocket knife"

He was not charged he was given a JLO and told to quit the drink and reform his ways!
this is what the problem is in this country if u can do that and get nothing but a small slap on the wrist then people will do it, if that guy had of been sent to jail for 3 years some of his friends might have learned a lesson resulting in slightly less crime

Bambi wrote:

Also: Someone has put forward a proposal to shoot all knackers, i trust mod hysteria will follow as is traditional?

Mod hysteria does not seem to follow when people suggest killing bush?
Why - Because allot of people hate bush (Allot of people hate the primtives asswell)
It was wrong to suggest shooting all the knackers as i said earlier its too general.

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On Another Note

Have you ever noticed that in the "rougher" areas the bomb fires are always larger? ive always wondered is this because there is so many of them or because there more orginised?

The best way i can think of is since many "good" people wont use violence the best solution is a type of strike/protest.
I know it sounds strange but bear with me if we orginised that if the gardai fail again next Halloween that there is a national strike/protest , everyone who has a problem with the primitives causing damage to innocent peoples property, attacking innocent people, hurting and hurting animals ect, what you all do is strike/protest have it orginised so that there is a work/school stoppage

i know its sounds stupid but just keep reading, the primitives will love it they don't want to go to school or work so they wont go either. even the non-violent students would want a week of school.
Then we move to working law abiding adults, wouldn't you all here like a week off? - I know i would

There is no fear of being fired because such large numbers not attending work company's would not be able to maintain and besides im sure several higher paid managers and such have a problem with the primitives as well, and if massive amounts where fired the doll claims would be massive and the government would be unable to support that many people drawing welfare and the system would collapse (that is a stupid ridiculous worst case scenario i know) but im trying to show you that the country would not function with a orginised work stoppage in protest of the primtives

And for some strange reason protesting seems to be acceptable,I cant stand protesters every time I go to town and there is a protest it can take hours to get out of town on a bus, Sure i dont mind if you protest but dont block my streets and my buses to get your point across. What would sound better on the news?

five thousand people protest in city centre
or
a line of people 1/2 a mile long (single file) march in protest (actually now that i think about it i don't know how long 5,000 people would be in single file)

Well that was allot of typing as u can probably tell im not a fan of random acts of violence.
Well does the spell checker make it much easier to read what im saying?

Nichololas

User45701 wrote:

what user4562467 wrote

Sieg Heil!

Getting a bit into it, aren't you?

Cunny-Funt

They should make good use of some unmanned Island and name it "Scumbag Island" and de-port all the filth there.

Then make a reality TV show from all the cameras set up around the island. I know I'd be at least amused watching thousands of scumbags trying to survive on a tiny island.

When the ratings drop, just rent the island out to N.Korea for their "testing"....

Conar

They should target the parents.
When I was younger I got up to some mischief, everyone does....or most anyway.
The single most common denominator though for "primitives" is parents that don't give a **** where they are or what they're doing.
We should start attacking these so called parents wallets, send them on parental training courses, name and shame them etc.

Here's one to ponder over.
With all the families these days that have both parents in the workplace do you reckon that things are going to get worse and worse?
I'm not trying to offend anyone here (as I certainly understand why it is neccessary to have 2 incomes in a lot of cases) but if both parents are away for most of their childrens waking hours then where do they get their morals from?

FranknFurter

Cunny-Funt wrote:

They should make good use of some unmanned Island and name it Scumbag Island and de-port all the filth there. Then make a reality TV show from all the cameras set up around the island. I know I'd be at least amused watching thousands of scumbags trying to survive on a tiny island. When the ratings drop, just rent the island out to N.Korea for their testing....

After a year of having all kinds of rubbish thrown over a 7 foot wall into my garden daily, (Yesterdays was a half-burnt "dolls leg" about 3 foot long, a heavy metal bar which missed a bedroom window by literally inches, several large rocks and general other missiles).
Along with having to constantly replace windows and chase scumbag children (bred by ultra-scumbag parents) till 2am, calling the guards who arrive an hour later from their station 300meters away and say"Ah we'll keep an eye out, but unless we see em ourselves theres nuffin we can do really, ya know?"....

I wholeheartedly support that idea. Except I would add daily torturing sessions and allowing large predatory animals loose on said island.
B

Conar

FranknFurter wrote:

After a year of having all kinds of rubbish thrown over a 7 foot wall into my garden daily, (Yesterdays was a half-burnt "dolls leg" about 3 foot long, a heavy metal bar which missed a bedroom window by literally inches, several large rocks and general other missiles).
Along with having to constantly replace windows and chase scumbag children (bred by ultra-scumbag parents) till 2am, calling the guards who arrive an hour later from their station 300meters away and say"Ah we'll keep an eye out, but unless we see em ourselves theres nuffin we can do really, ya know?"....

I really do feel for you man, thats a horrible situation to be in.
I'm lucky enough to live in an area that seems to be relatively quite but there have been one or 2 occassions where I've had to quickly weigh up the pro's and cons of chasing off the scum or staying put and pretending you didn't notice.

Perhaps the best way to deal with it would be to start excercising our democratic rights and make it an election issue for both our local councils and our TD's.

Degsy

FranknFurter wrote:

After a year of having all kinds of rubbish thrown over a 7 foot wall into my garden daily, (Yesterdays was a half-burnt "dolls leg" about 3 foot long, a heavy metal bar which missed a bedroom window by literally inches, several large rocks and general other missiles).
Along with having to constantly replace windows and chase scumbag children (bred by ultra-scumbag parents) till 2am, calling the guards who arrive an hour later from their station 300meters away and say"Ah we'll keep an eye out, but unless we see em ourselves theres nuffin we can do really, ya know?"....

I wholeheartedly support that idea. Except I would add daily torturing sessions and allowing large predatory animals loose on said island.
B

That sounds similar to an area down the road from me.There are a row of private houses which back onto a laneway and a ten foot wall at the end of the gardens.It seems the wall is just an incentive for the little pricks to become more inventive in thier scumbaggery,they rifle skips for miles around and set fire to everything from lawnmowers to peices of carpet and then try to throw them over the wall.The wall itself has been painted and repainted with the most moronic graffiti you ever saw..people spelling thier own first names wrong and such gems as "asling looves the gardas"..."garda scumb bags" and "such and such is a rat..true".They should be shot dead on sight,they'll never amount to anything and just be a drain on society all tier lives.

r3nu4l

The Scientist wrote:

Thats why ASBO's should be implemented here.

T.Sc.

Sorry T.Sc...clicky. Anyone with half a brain can tell ASBOs are as effective as a pile of stinky poo droppings.

They are seen as a badge of honour and like DublinWriter collecting his "Ban Badges", teens are trying to collect an ASBO. At least 50% of ASBOs are being broken on a daily basis according to research.

I have never and don't think I ever will understand the mentality behind this behaviour. These people obviously have no social concience. How do you deal with a problem like Vicky Pollard

Max_Damage

Degsy wrote:

They should be shot dead on sight,

Agreed.

That or all the scumbags should have a nice meeting with Mr. Zyklon B.

dRNk SAnTA

I'm being honest here:

Why the hell don't we bring back corporal punishment? I've been to singapore where they famously use it for all sorts of things even spraying graffiti. Lashings lashings lashings!!

We're too much of a soft touch on these bastards. They have no fear of anythings at the moment. By the way the parents get off too lightly aswell. I'm not sure how they should be punished.

Controversial but serious question: if abortion was cheap and legal, would we have so many skummers?

hmmm

dRNk SAnTA wrote:

Controversial but serious question: if abortion was cheap and legal, would we have so many skummers?

In the book "Freakonomics", a convincing case was made that the decline in the New York crime rate was not due to zero tolerance but due to the new availability of cheap abortions 15/20 years earlier.

Ste.phen

If the ESB can find out fom the guards who these kids are, just cut their power, citing 'unaccaptably high vandalism rates in the area' and saying the limited resources are needed elsewhere.



Scummy kids are one thing, but scummy parents who can't watch MTV anymore can probably handle them :P

netwhizkid

I think a "Black & Tan" "Waffen SS" type of brutal police force would be more appropriate, kick the living s*it out of them, female scumbags too, and arm the Gardai, shoot now and ask question's later. Execution's could be applied too. These scummers have no respect for private property or people's right to live in peace, so why the heck should they expect equal treatment then.

Mandatory Jail sentences for Off-Licencesee's who sell alcohol to underage people and heavy fines for those ignorant people who go get it for them. Alcohol has a big part to do with the breakdown in our society and if the louts had less access to it their would be less problems.

The Death Penalty really should be re-instated for Crimes like: Drug Dealing, Murder, Treason and simply start applying it, it is no good to to have the death penalty when Anto from Ballymun will spend the next 30yrs on Death Row to maybe get a pardon from some politician before an Election. Hang them up simple. ASBO's are only a badge of honour to your typical knacker* and should not be implemented at all.



*By the Word Knacker I do not mean a member of the travelling community, but rather your average champion sport's clad, beer swilling, burberry wearing delinquent.

Degsy

dRNk SAnTA wrote:

I'm being honest here:

Why the hell don't we bring back corporal punishment? I've been to singapore where they famously use it for all sorts of things even spraying graffiti. Lashings lashings lashings!!

We're too much of a soft touch on these bastards. They have no fear of anythings at the moment. By the way the parents get off too lightly aswell. I'm not sure how they should be punished.

Controversial but serious question: if abortion was cheap and legal, would we have so many skummers?

Give em free abortions when they go in to give urine samples for thier methadone,better yet,give them free heroin at 100% pure so they OD in thier squats and we dont have to look at them hanging around in packs on the boardwalk and outside tara street.
If a scumbag woman has a kid under 18 with more than one criminal conviction she and the kid should be sterilised.

petes

netwhizkid wrote:

beer swilling.

Beer swilling makes you a knacker now.

r3nu4l

Hmmm, reading these posts I'm reminded of the phrase...

"All extremists should be shot!"

Guys, there is some serious amount of sh*te talk going on here tbh. I don't have the solutions but it's obvious that you guys don't either. Some of the neo-nazi, fascist type solutions here are bizarre (but funny) .

IMO, if you see these solutions as viable then you are not as far away from the Anto's in mindset as you think!

netwhizkid

petes wrote:

Beer swilling makes you a knacker now.

Absolutely Not, Alcohol is quite okay in moderation and all people who want to drink find an outlet usually in a pub amongst friends. But let me ask this?? How many of these scumbags are we likely to see pissed out of their heads and drinking in the streets with drink usually Vodka, beer would only be for weaklings I guess.

My Point is that this anti-social behaviour is intrinsically related to under-age drinking. I bet many of them were fine respectable Children until Seamo or Deirdre agged them onto take their first drink, and from their on the respect for parental authority and conformation to normal social standards went out the window. If they could not get Drink in the first place or had reduced access to it many of society's problems would be reduced.

We never hear of these problems in Arab Countries where Alcohol is either banned or tightly controlled that and you can have your head cut off for crimes, Here there is no control. I am not advocating as harsh a regime as certain Arab Counties apply e.g.. Iran (Who hung two teenagers for being Gay) apply. However some certain Standards should be imposed and enforced.

Degsy

netwhizkid wrote:

Absolutely Not, Alcohol is quite okay in moderation and all people who want to drink find an outlet usually in a pub amongst friends. But let me ask this?? How many of these scumbags are we likely to see pissed out of their heads and drinking in the streets with drink usually Vodka, beer would only be for weaklings I guess.

My Point is that this anti-social behaviour is intrinsically related to under-age drinking. I bet many of them were fine respectable Children until Seamo or Deirdre agged them onto take their first drink, and from their on the respect for parental authority and conformation to normal social standards went out the window. If they could not get Drink in the first place or had reduced access to it many of society's problems would be reduced.

We never hear of these problems in Arab Countries where Alcohol is either banned or tightly controlled that and you can have your head cut off for crimes, Here there is no control. I am not advocating as harsh a regime as certain Arab Counties apply e.g.. Iran (Who hung two teenagers for being Gay) apply. However some certain Standards should be imposed and enforced.

The law is the law.Why do so many people break it?Because they reckon nothing will happen to them.£ grand fine for smoking on the bus?I see people smoking hash on my bus EVRY day and i've never seen one of them get fined.Have an undercover policeman or two onthe bus to batter the ****e out of them THEN fine them(or thier parents) three grand and i guarantee it'll be a deterent in future.

FranknFurter

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Tbh, if it was'nt so damn serious it would be comedic the lack of ability the "system" in this country has to deal with these bastards.

I was somone who would have thought the idea of rehabilitation was the only option,... now, after living here 10 years, Im of the opinion that thats about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

These f*ckers deserve nothing less than a good wallop! And if I could mod my chair enough to be fast enough to catch them, they *would* get it and more.
One of the most frustrating parts is being someone who is physically *capable* of scaring the little ****ers ****less but not goddamn fast enough to catch them to do so.

And their parents, who btw, leave them out to do this until 2am (on a weeknight), deserve to be punished in the only way they will listen. Remove their social welfare payments. Maybe when they are not being paid to procreate they might consider stopping.
(And yes I know not every scumbag has a parent on SW, but I know the ones who are doing this to us every damn minute of the day are, I see them collecting it. Talking to the knuckle scraping chimps is not an option, english is a foreign language to these *********!)
B