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Bmw Gs
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11-11-2006 12:52pm#1
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A friend of mine just bought the 1100RT (we call him the French policeman now!) and I had a spin on it the other day. I found it surprisingly nimble for a big bike (I ride a Bandit 600 so obviously I was a little apprehensive at first...). Good bike if you don't mind looking like a copper!
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The Doktor wrote:Dunno bout the middle aged thing, anyone I know who has one isn`t
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I love generalising , see my sig.
oh yeah forgot something
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It's horses for courses really.. I've had my gs for a year and a half now, and although the service cost is a little high for my liking, the service interval is infrequent, and everything is by the book. The prices of all replacement parts, hourly rates, specific service costs etc are all fixed and published, so you know what you are getting into (which is not something I could say for my previous 5 bikes). Tyres are very cheap (over the 'net) and last a very long time. It is fond of oil though, but my insurance costs have gone down enough, that it's not costing me much more than any of my other bikes to run.
There have been a lot of issues raised about reliability, and things going wrong (the GS12), but for me, so far, after 18 months of ownership, I've had one indicator switch replaced. There are arguments for over-engineering though, and things like the servo breaks, ABS, canbus system have been known to cause problems. I am glad it comes with a 2 year warranty.
Would I buy another one? I honestly can't think of any bike (within reason!) that I'd rather have, but they are expensive, so I plan on holding on to this one for a couple more years (I'd generally lose interest in my other bikes after two or three years, but this one is holding my attention!). At the end of the day, buy the bike you want to ride, not the bike you want others to see you on.
If you must have a gs, then learn to put up with the comments about pipes, slippers, McGregor wannabies. The thick skin will help you cope with those artic conditions on you're round the world trip. (to Tescos). 0 -
The service interval is only infrequent if you're not on it that much. I'm doing approx 2000kms a month, so they tend to roll around pretty quick for me.
I'd actually be interested in hearing what the average (if there is such a thing) service costs for a Pan, or any big-bore bike, for that matter.0 -
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I don't have a 1200GS manual to hand, but the highest figure for service intervals, that I've so far managed to find, states that it should be done every 16,000kms. Some go as "low" as 10,000kms. Still, if 20,000 is what it is, then that's pretty impressive, and a massive improvement over the 1150. Probably reflects the riding style of the pipe-and-slippers brigade fairly accurately. 0
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I care about value for money, although the decision didn't feature strongly when I bought my GS. I bought the GS, because it was the bike I had always wanted. Every other bike had lasted me a year or two max, before I was itching for something different. I'm glad to report that I have the bike almost two years now, and I'm going to stick with it for some time to come (the other half is delighted, but the bank manager isn't quite as happy).
In terms of value for money, when I purchased the GS, it was the bike for holding its value. Few other bikes came close (Pans, FJRs etc), and having been stung a couple of times before, this was something that also helped with the decision making process. I have no doubt that the situation is different now, as there are so many of them out there, but it's less important cos I'm happy with it..
I was going to add something about the monopolistic nature of the single Triumph dealer in this country, but to be honest, with the BMW dealerships, it isn't that different.
One last point: The GS has usually got pride of place when we talk about expensive bikes. But did you know:
1) It's only 2 grand more expensive than a VFR800?
2) 3 Grand cheaper than a Ducati 999?
3) The same price as a Monster S4 RS?
4) 700 quid more expensive than a CBR1000?
5) 500 quid cheaper than an SP2?
5) 5 Grand cheaper than a Pan Euro?
6) 500 quid more than a ZX10?
7) 500 quid more than a Yamaha R1?
8) 100 quid less than a zzr1400?
(Prices based on rec. retail - and yes, we all know where we can get better prices, but this is true of the bmw too).
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And to be fair, the Varadero, of similar ilk, is pretty over-priced too. Generally I've found the Hondas and the BMWs to be much dearer than equivalent style or specced bikes - with the Hondas you are getting a lot of reputation (which is arguably deserved). With the BMW, it seems a little mixed... I spent some time on BMW forums before making up my mind and it seems to be split between people who get bullet-proof models and people who get lemons. In the end, I still was really tempted but the gap in price seemed too extreme to swallow I thought. But you are right about a GS holding it's value - I expect your bike will hold value a hell of a lot better than mine over the next few years but then again if both of us are happy with them, this issue kind of becomes slightly irrelevant as neither of us is likely to sell on... ?Krusty_Clown wrote:I care about value for money, although the decision didn't feature strongly when I bought my GS. I bought the GS, because it was the bike I had always wanted. Every other bike had lasted me a year or two max, before I was itching for something different. I'm glad to report that I have the bike almost two years now, and I'm going to stick with it for some time to come (the other half is delighted, but the bank manager isn't quite as happy).
In terms of value for money, when I purchased the GS, it was the bike for holding its value. Few other bikes came close (Pans, FJRs etc), and having been stung a couple of times before, this was something that also helped with the decision making process. I have no doubt that the situation is different now, as there are so many of them out there, but it's less important cos I'm happy with it..
I was going to add something about the monopolistic nature of the single Triumph dealer in this country, but to be honest, with the BMW dealerships, it isn't that different.
One last point: The GS has usually got pride of place when we talk about expensive bikes. But did you know:
1) It's only 2 grand more expensive than a VFR800?
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Bottom line though, buy the bike you like to sit on! It's the driving experience that always counts in the end. **** the expense
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To be honest, I think the vast majority of big bore bikes hold their value equally well (probably true for smaller bikes too, but I haven't shopped for one in a long time) when it comes to private sale, for bikes of comparable condition.
However, it's a vastly different situation if you're trading it in. The only reason I have a problem with BMW holding their value the way they don't is that the dealers go out of their way to make a point of telling you that they do. Go back for a trade-in, though, and it's a quick trip down Cattleprod Lane for the customer.
In my own experience, I went to trade in my 1150GS and was offered the princely sum of €3800. I sold it privately for just under €8500, when similar models were selling for around €10k from the dealers. Now, you can bang on about shop guarantees etc, but seriously. That's a very big difference. And, personally, I think the buyer got a bargain. 0 -
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I havent rode a bike in 20 years then last summer bought a 02 dt 125 found it great crack so went and bought the first thing I saw a ZXR 600, didint like it at all apart from the looks so next a CBR 600, same again nice looks and a little nicer and quicker but still didint like it then spotted a 99 r1150gs in yellow with a full rack on done deal 4,600 euro all the mates said yer f**king mad but like the big kid saw myself doing the long way down the M50 and what a bike Im hooked its a real dinger, a real dinger did I already say that Im so happy:):):):P 0
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