If there was a cure, would you take it?

abetarrush

was watchin X3 and theres a cure for bein a mutant
some wanted it badly to be normal, others said they're normal and dont need a "cure" cos they aint sick

wha if there was a cure for bein gay? Would ye take it, or wha?

NOTE: I'm not sayin you have to / should

Nevyn

Why not a cure for hertosexuality ?
Why not a cure for homosexuality ?

Lets make the whole world bisexual and everyone can get a long and that way I don't have to change

Huggles

abetarrush wrote:

was watchin X3 and theres a cure for bein a mutant
some wanted it badly to be normal, others said they're normal and dont need a "cure" cos they aint sick

wha if there was a cure for bein gay? Would ye take it, or wha?

NOTE: I'm not sayin you have to / should

Most ignorant thread ever. Reported for Trolling

Vinnie69

Abetarrush, abetarrush what can we do to "cure" you?

Would you like a little thread for yourself? We would all pop along and offer you
"cures" for your " I'm straight but I was wondering .........?"

Boston

The bad things about being Queer are mainly the things the outside world imposes upon us. As such looking to "cure" it, is looking for a cure in the wrong place.

Rock Climber

First off -Homosexuality is not a disease or a condition so ergo it does not need a cure.

Secondly-Abbetrush or whatever your name is, you have posted some borderline stuff in this forum before but from my point of view (as a reader and a poster here) I've given you the benefit of the doubt 'cause what you posted was almost an attempt at something inteligent.

This thread however is a mistake or at the very least very badly worded.
It has at its base an extreme ignorance.


Now please write in your onw handwriting 500 lines and hand it in to teacher...
I must not troll like this in future
I must not...

abetarrush

omg, thats why I started the bloody thread!

theres loadsa gay guys we know who say they'd straight, and i clearly stated im not sayin im for this imaginary cure



ffs...........

ixoy

Too much anger in this thread and I don't think it's been phrased helpfully, although I don't think the OP intentions were malicious in any way. Hovering on the "Lock" button unless I'm given a reason not to.

abetarrush

ixoy wrote:

Too much anger in this thread and I don't think it's been phrased helpfully, although I don't think the OP intentions were malicious in any way. Hovering on the "Lock" button unless I'm given a reason not to.

please, PRESS

Sangre

Such is the negativity and persecuation towards homosexuality in the current, modern world, would you become straight if you were able to or is it too much a part of your identity to 'remove'?

Nevyn

Well abetarrush what if you mutated like spiderman and developed The Ghey and it was not a natural mutation like iceman would accept it or look for a cure and become bitter and twisted ?

aidan24326

abettarush, I think there's an idea for a thread in there somewhere but your wording of it is appallingly bad.

Capt'n Midnight

http://www.geocities.com/alfonzobelushi/floodquotes.html

VYVYAN: Yeah, my potion! My potion as well! NEIL: What potion? VYVYAN: It's a potion I've invented where when the patient drinks it he turns into an axe-wielding, homicidal maniac! It's basically a cure. For not being an axe-wielding, homicidal maniac. The potential market's enormous!

If there is a genetic component to some aspects of homosexuality in some men then there is research suggests that one explaination for it is the effect it has on women with the same gene. I don't know if it's an attempt to try to explain how the gene could survive since homosexual men might have less children than average ( not as taboo amongst other cultures perhaps in pre-history ? ) but one theory suggests that the female relatives with this gene would be more fertile or possibly more sexually active and so overall there would be more copies of the gene in future generations.

Does the OP want to cure teh sexy women too ? :rolleyes:

Vinnie69

Ah lads & lassies !

Stop pandering to him !!!!

To quote Oscar Wilde "the lady doth protest too much"

abetarrush ! Come out! come out! wherever you are !

Its getting boring with your "I'm straight but I want to know"

You have been answered here many times but still you persist in pretending that you are trying to understand what being gay is.

As I said above, if you want a thread on this LGB to discuss you personally then posted it but stop this endless quest of seeking answers that you have already got !

plonk

What I think hes trying to say is would you prefer to be attracted to the opposite sex or are you happy being attracted to the same sex.

Hmm_Messiah

haven't we had this question asked before ?

All the uproar about suggestions of a cure.

Anywhoo I don't thinkt he question " if you could choose not to be gay would you?" is such a bad one.

Personally there are any number of things about my life I'd change but is not possible. I'm sure thats the case for many people - wanting to be taller, less hairy/ bigger breast/smaller, richer etc etc. I know for along time both my sister and I wished we never got migraines .

So if I was asked do I think "gay" is a defect, an illness, or wrong I'd say "nope". If asked would I ever want things differently, the answer is sure. I knew a girl once, loved her madly, would happily to choose to be married to her , with house, kiddies, etc etc. While I could "choose" that, the simple reality is being "gay" would be an obstacle. Of course that we fell out of love would be an obstacle too !

I don't understand why any one would wonder if people might want to change their lives, to mee it seems the essence of humanity - growth, relationships, education, migration, etc

This has been done before tbh

BuffyBot

Most ignorant thread ever.

I wouldn't say ever. After all, we've had how many threads of this nature by now?

<edit>See Tristrame's post</edit>

WhizzGDK

I think you guys are being very hard and unfair to the OP here.

He obviously is curious and interested in the society and finding a group of gay people to ask about these things.
Anybody taking offence to the wording is just looking for an excuse to kick off at an straight guy. As a community ye should be taking the opportunity educate people, not slate them for asking the wrong question.
Its fair enough to point out it is worded bady or that the topic is covered but we should be happy that young men can ask questions like this without fear of persecution.

Calling him gay or in the closet is just bullying, and im sure most here know what that feels like to be on the recieving end. And having an interest instead of a fear is showing good results of a changing society.

Show a little consideration for those (like myself) that are unaware, and assist in the search for knowledge.

Boston

Sangre wrote:

Such is the negativity and persecuation towards homosexuality in the current, modern world, would you become straight if you were able to or is it too much a part of your identity to 'remove'?

No. On the whole being with the particular person I was with changed me dramatically and made me a better person for it. Maybe I could ahve achieved the same with a woman, maybe not, but he was the right person at the right time for me, if I was straight, I would have passed that up, and that would have been a mistake.

Syth

There was a time when the medical/professional community thought that homosexuality was a disease and tried to cure gays. Everything from electroshock therapy to hormonal treatments (like Alan Turing british codebreaker from WW2 and father of computers). However nothing worked. So there is a moutain of evidence that shows that you can't make a gay man straight.

However no-one's tried to do the opposite. So there's lots of evidence that you can't 'cure' homosexuality, but none that you can't cure hetrosexuality.

Vinnie69

WhizzGDK wrote:

I think you guys are being very hard and unfair to the OP here.

He obviously is curious and interested in the society and finding a group of gay people to ask about these things.
Anybody taking offence to the wording is just looking for an excuse to kick off at an straight guy. As a community ye should be taking the opportunity educate people, not slate them for asking the wrong question.
Its fair enough to point out it is worded bady or that the topic is covered but we should be happy that young men can ask questions like this without fear of persecution.

Calling him gay or in the closet is just bullying, and im sure most here know what that feels like to be on the recieving end. And having an interest instead of a fear is showing good results of a changing society.

Show a little consideration for those (like myself) that are unaware, and assist in the search for knowledge.

Your comments are well made and would be similar to my own when I first started on Boards.ie. However if you stick around this LGB forum longer enough, you might appreciate our feelings to this OP

LegacyUser

'In a heartbeat. It's just too difficult a life.'

pepper

abetarrush wrote:

was watchin X3 and theres a cure for bein a mutant
some wanted it badly to be normal, others said they're normal and dont need a "cure" cos they aint sick

wha if there was a cure for bein gay? Would ye take it, or wha?

NOTE: I'm not sayin you have to / should

no way- i love being able to appriciate men and women in all their glory-TBH when i reliased i was bi i was thrilled-Which sounds weird but its not-Im totally happy with it and I wouldnt change it for the world!!

abetarrush

Vinnie69 wrote:

Ah lads & lassies !

Stop pandering to him !!!!...........................
As I said above, if you want a thread on this LGB to discuss you personally then posted it but stop this endless quest of seeking answers that you have already got !

wtf r u on about?

Did I say "Oh, jus to be clear, im straight" at the start of this thread?

I was askin a simple question.

Your the ones always sayin that no1 uses this forum much anymore, am I not breathin life into it? Even though I don't try to make anyone angry [i swear!] its funny sometimes

So, yeah, jus chill man!

And I know I'm straight, I'm confident abt my sexuality so comment away

I only post here for the same reason as any other forum [mostly], to learn abt different people.

Is that so wrong???

UU

Okay, take a chill pill people! :cool:

Now, I empathise......It seems to me that abetarrush misphrased what he endeavoured to say. Perhaps, abetarrush, you meant to say is:

"If there was a magical spell to turn you heterosexual, would you take it?"

Note, I have refrained from using the word "cure" as cure implies a disease, illness, etc. Maybe there ought to be a cure for homophobia though as that seems to be a profound mental and psychological illness.

My response: No, I would not want a magic spell cast over me to make me straight as I'm having to much fun being gay!!!

abetarrush

thanks UU

dats wha i meant. I just meant scientists would call it a cure, cos they see it as a disease

watch X-Men 3 and ye'll know wha im on abt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boston

Could Abe be banned for constantly raping the english language. It's hard to beleive the guy is here to learn when he can't be arsed at making an attempt at being understood. If he was attacked out of hand, it's only because he was extremely sloppy and lazy with his posts, and continues to be.


Abe, you believe homosexuality to be genetic?

Goodshape

abetarrush wrote:

thanks UU

dats wha i meant. I just meant scientists would call it a cure, cos they see it as a disease

watch X-Men 3 and ye'll know wha im on abt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh for god's sake.

Dig up you fool! DIG UP!

nd lrn 2 spl wile ur at eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

steveland?

abetarrush wrote:

thanks UU

dats wha i meant. I just meant scientists would call it a cure, cos they see it as a disease

watch X-Men 3 and ye'll know wha im on abt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If there were a cure for having sat throught XMen 3 I'd take it

popebenny16

I saw this thread on the main page loggin on and I thoght the title of the thread was so horrible. Ok, lets take me for an example. I'm a ginger. Does that mean I want to be black haired or blonde or some other acceptable colour? No. I am what I am. Same with my sexuality, its mine. I was born with it, same as everyone else. It makes me what and who i am, why for gods sake would I want to change it? I wouldnt be me anymore.

And I'm sorry o/p, but saying "its what scientists say not me" isnt entirely correct. You wrote the title to this thread, this is your idea.

Boston

popebenny16 wrote:

I saw this thread on the main page loggin on and I thoght the title of the thread was so horrible. Ok, lets take me for an example. I'm a ginger. Does that mean I want to be black haired or blonde or some other acceptable colour? No. I am what I am. Same with my sexuality, its mine. I was born with it, same as everyone else. It makes me what and who i am, why for gods sake would I want to change it? I wouldnt be me anymore.

And I'm sorry o/p, but saying "its what scientists say not me" isnt entirely correct. You wrote the title to this thread, this is your idea.

correct, but to be exact
"it's what some fictional scientists in some Sci Fi come pile of ****e movie said"

Now onto our next question
"who would win in a fight, batman or wolverine"...

Might as well rephrase the title of hte htread to "Is your life so loathsome and detestable, that given the chance, would you chance this aspect of it completely".

It's sad that for some the answer would be a resounding yes.

the_syco

abetarrush wrote:

wha if there was a cure

Nah. I like being straight. If I was gay, I doubt lesbians would look so nice:cool:

=-=

LiouVille: we all know Wolverine would win, so stop trying to drag it off topic. If you want to compare their abs, create a thread about it on SlyDice:p:D

St_Crispin

A cure implies that there's something wrong. There isn't. They might not be normal (Don't flame for the use of that word. Probably not the best word to use. But I just mean that if 90% of people are one way, then that's "the norm". Just like there's no better side of the road to drive on. But depending on where you are, it's the normal side) but there's nothing wrong with them.

A better question would be "if you could be hetrosexual as well?"

Being gay does cause a lot of problems for people. There are many places it's not accepted. They will be viewed differently. That's not their fault. It's the fault of the people who view them that way. There's only two solutions. One is to make everyone see sense. That's not about to happen this century. As long as there's a difference there will always be people who will focus on that. Even in this day in age there's still discrimination against both genders because of their sex. The same will always be true of sexuality.

The only other way would be if people changed their sexuality to fit in. Most (I'd imagine 99%) would say no. Because 1. it's not wrong and 2. it's part of who they are.

But still they'd like to get rid of the difficulties. For example a lot would want to be parents. Which is a lot harder for gay men.

Which is why I said the question should be changed. Rather than removing a part of someone, you're adding (in some ways). And that may be a more palitable suggestion. And the question is equally as valid for hetrosexuals. Would they, if they were in a predominantly homosexual enviroment, want to be gay?

Talliesin

WhizzGDK wrote:

Anybody taking offence to the wording is just looking for an excuse to kick off at an straight guy.

No, we're just reacting naturally to an offensive little **** spewing crap from his diseased poisonous little mind.

aidan24326

Tristrame wrote:

This has been done before tbh

Tristrame, that thread you linked to is 4 years old. Don't see what relevance that has. Many of the current boards users weren't even registered. Not everyone has been on boards since 1972 like yourself.

BuffyBot

That's but one of many

aidan24326

aidan24326 wrote:

Tristrame, that thread you linked to is 4 years old. Don't see what relevance that has. Many of the current boards users weren't even registered. Not everyone has been on boards since 1972 like yourself.

Honey,
You shouldn't just dismiss people that have been on boards since 1972.
We know stuff.

BuffyBot

Tristrame, the way you said that..was just slightly scary

fozzle

abetarrush wrote:

thanks UU

dats wha i meant. I just meant scientists would call it a cure, cos they see it as a disease

watch X-Men 3 and ye'll know wha im on abt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a scientist. I don't think it's a disease do I? *checks* No, I'm pretty sure that's not something I believe. But maybe my disease-riddled mind has tricked me into not noticing.

OP, I assume you had no malicious intent when you started this thread (unlike many posters here over the years) but you need to word things more carefully. Why? Are large numbers of homosexuals and bisexuals overly sensitive about their sexuality? Yes of course we are. For a lot of us it has resulted in harrassment, bullying, being ostracised, depression, confusion, low self esteem and self-hatred. Do you have any idea what it's like to hate the very person that you are because of the social problems it has led to for you?

Would you ask someone from Kenya if they would like to be cured of being black? A little bit of empathy is neccessary in this world, try to remember that that applies online too.

LegacyUser

It's utterly offensive a "cure" would even be considere to begin with. As if we need another way to kill off diversity.

UU

LOOK!

Here's the truth: If you're gay, you're gay. If you're lesbian, you're lesbian. If you're bi, you're bi. If you're straighnt you're straight. If you're asexual, you're asexual, etc...

So get over it!!! You are who you are because of destiny, because of who you are attracted (or not attracted to). Why would I wish to be something I'm not? There is in fact little difference between being straight and being gay. Like a hetero relationship, our lovelives also involves love, affection, communication, fidelity, scoring, kissing, sex, hugging, whatever. The only significant difference is one is composed of two people of the opposite gender and ours is two people of the same gender.

Also, the only people I've met who think homosexuality is a disease that needs to be cured, have been very fanatical religious people who also think adulterers should be imprisoned.

There you go, make whatever you want out of what I said.

But the true disease that lurks around these pages from time to time is Homophobia. If anything needs to be cured, it is the corrupted bigots who reap our seeds of fellowship and virtues.

cheeky_guy

I saw a programme on Channel4 during the summer about a camp in America that claims to turn gay people straight. They put them through some rough treatment to say the least and the aim of the treatment was to awaken the 'Hetrosexual instincts within the man that had been smothered by homosexual feelings.

At the end of the programme it said, the camp was booked out solid for the next three years. So someone must want to be "cured". LOL

Vinnie69

cheeky_guy wrote:

I saw a programme on Channel4 during the summer about a camp in America that claims to turn gay people straight. They put them through some rough treatment to say the least and the aim of the treatment was to awaken the 'Hetrosexual instincts within the man that had been smothered by homosexual feelings.

At the end of the programme it said, the camp was booked out solid for the next three years. So someone must want to be "cured". LOL

Indeed, there are some sad gays out there who wished they weren't born gay and with social pressure seek a "cure". But it is like as if you have black hair and dye it blond, after a while the black roots show through!

Annasopra

scientists would call it a cure, cos they see it as a disease

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

No they Friggin well don't - they have not done so for the last 30 odd years

If there was a cure for your heterosexuality would you take it?

Sangre

cheeky_guy wrote:

I saw a programme on Channel4 during the summer about a camp in America that claims to turn gay people straight. They put them through some rough treatment to say the least and the aim of the treatment was to awaken the 'Hetrosexual instincts within the man that had been smothered by homosexual feelings.

At the end of the programme it said, the camp was booked out solid for the next three years. So someone must want to be "cured". LOL

More like someone wants their son 'cured'.

UU

Sangre wrote:

More like someone wants their son 'cured'.

Yeah, that's a more accurate picture. They're called de-homosexualising camps. These freaky religious nutters send their sons and daughters to these places to be cured "by guidance of Jesus Christ". Many of these places have breached human rights according to the UN Convention of Human Rights and get off scot free in America.

abetarrush

UU wrote:

Yeah, that's a more accurate picture. They're called de-homosexualising camps. These freaky religious nutters send their sons and daughters to these places to be cured "by guidance of Jesus Christ". Many of these places have breached human rights according to the UN Convention of Human Rights and get off scot free in America.

No no no its very true!

Jesus is actually there in the form of the thousands of electrical volts


[/sarcasm]

Transcendant

I am gay, i am proud and do not hide my sexuality or feel shame for it bu tif there were some hypothetic way of making myself straight then i would gladly change. I see no self hate in that i see practicality.

aidan24326

UU wrote:

Yeah, that's a more accurate picture. They're called de-homosexualising camps. These freaky religious nutters send their sons and daughters to these places to be cured "by guidance of Jesus Christ". Many of these places have breached human rights according to the UN Convention of Human Rights and get off scot free in America.

There's no mention in the bible of Jesus ever having a ladyfriend/wife/children, so perhaps JC himself was gay. It would be absolutely priceless if someone by some stroke of genius could prove he was. Oh that someone would even fake the evidence convincingly. Imagine the horror among the christian fundies at the 'de-homosexualizing camps'. Personally I would laugh myself to death if that happened.

EDIT: Transcendant, an atypical viewpoint judging by this thread. Though it would seem that heterosexuality is the more 'practical' and 'easier' option, were the whole thing optional at all.

Sangre

Jesus revisits eath on the last days of the armaggeddon.

'What, didn't I tell you? I love the cock.'