irishspeedtraps.com

CK.1

Lads,

was just sent a link to www.irishspeedtraps.com. Does what it says in the tin, a list of the speed trap locations in Ireland. You can search by county and road. Could be useful!

C

crosstownk

I find what works is to keep within the posted limit;)

NiSmO

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junkyard

It will be very handy to know once the speedcamaras start going up around the place.

Anan1

junkyard wrote:

It will be very handy to know once the speedcamaras start going up around the place.

In the meantime, however, we have mobile traps. As far as I can see, the only defence against those (apart from not speeding) is a good laser jammer.

Supercell

Would be nice if the GPS maps got updated with trap locations also too here like the UK versions.

drdre

Anan1 wrote:

In the meantime, however, we have mobile traps. As far as I can see, the only defence against those (apart from not speeding) is a good laser jammer.

yes thats the only way around it.will the jamme work on both fixed and mobile speed cameras

NUTLEY BOY

As we are on the subject of avoiding detection by the Gardai !

Years ago motorists used to flash headlights to warn oncoming traffic of a speed trap. I have not seen it done for years. Don't you just long for those good old days when motorists showed each other such kindly consideration !

By the way was it ever an offence to flash headlights for this purpose ? Maybe I am thinking of another country but I thought that this type of thing was classified as frustrating a prosecution or was it frustrating a policemen ?

drdre

NUTLEY BOY wrote:

As we are on the subject of avoiding detection by the Gardai !

Years ago motorists used to flash headlights to warn oncoming traffic of a speed trap. I have not seen it done for years. Don't you just long for those good old days when motorists showed each other such kindly consideration !

By the way was it ever an offence to flash headlights for this purpose ? Maybe I am thinking of another country but I thought that this type of thing was classified as frustrating a prosecution or was it frustrating a policemen ?

no its happened to me recently, i was driving in shankill and over 5 different cars flashed the the on coming side to warn them of gaurds up ahead with a speed gun.they were really good to do that as its a blind spot beside the church

HelterSkelter

NUTLEY BOY wrote:

As we are on the subject of avoiding detection by the Gardai !

Years ago motorists used to flash headlights to warn oncoming traffic of a speed trap. I have not seen it done for years. Don't you just long for those good old days when motorists showed each other such kindly consideration !

By the way was it ever an offence to flash headlights for this purpose ? Maybe I am thinking of another country but I thought that this type of thing was classified as frustrating a prosecution or was it frustrating a policemen ?

I remember hearing stories of Guards stopping people further down the road from a speec trap and charging them for flashing their headlights. I think it came under dangerous driving or some silly charge like that. Think that's why people stopped doing it.

The tax man

NUTLEY BOY wrote:

As we are on the subject of avoiding detection by the Gardai !

Years ago motorists used to flash headlights to warn oncoming traffic of a speed trap. I have not seen it done for years. Don't you just long for those good old days when motorists showed each other such kindly consideration !

Got a flash on sunday on the N11(southbound) by a nice person in a jeep. Gardai with gun just after the new exit for Greystones(i think)where the road works are atm.You can't even see them till it's too late so be warned. Slowed down in time:D but they had there hands full with 3 other cars pulled over.

Anan1

drdre wrote:

yes thats the only way around it.will the jamme work on both fixed and mobile speed cameras

AFAIK, cameras use radar whereas mobile patrols (ie a Guard with a gun) use laser. A radar detector is fine against radar as you get loads of warning, but only a laser jammer will protect you against laser.

mik_da_man

Good find on that site, I've updated a few.
few more to go:rolleyes:
The more people that use it the better:D

dudara

How about we just accept that speed limits are usually there for a reason ( not in all cases) and maybe speed traps are one way of getting people to think about slowing down.

overdriver

They sometimes have a car either end of a speedtrap to catch people flashing their lights. far as I know, it's just a bollocking.

crosstownk

Is this thread developing into a guide on how to speed and avoid detection?

Do we not all want to reduce road deaths and other accidents that are caused as a result of speeding?

testicle

Longfield wrote:

Would be nice if the GPS maps got updated with trap locations also too here like the UK versions.

Unfortunately, illegal in this country. As is the website. As, indeed, is "flashing" oncoming traffic to warn them of an upcoming "Speed Trap" - all under the same legislation - obstructing a Garda in the course of his duties.

AlanD

The website needs a bit of work. Illegal or not. It has some coding issues. This amateur needs to fully test his website before making public.

want2play

crosstownk wrote:

Is this thread developing into a guide on how to speed and avoid detection?

Do we not all want to reduce road deaths and other accidents that are caused as a result of speeding?

I dont see anything wrong with cars flashing lights as a warning, it makes traffic slow down, which is the point.

So what if the Guards are losing revenue; saw them out on the duel carraigeway from Shannon to Limerick where it goes from 100 to 60 last week getting the old ticket quotes up I suppose.

Carb

testicle wrote:

Unfortunately, illegal in this country. As is the website. As, indeed, is "flashing" oncoming traffic to warn them of an upcoming "Speed Trap" - all under the same legislation - obstructing a Garda in the course of his duties.

I assume a website informing people where fixed speed cameras are, is not obstructing a Garda in the course of his duties, since there is no gardai performing a duty. If that wasn't the case, would the signposts indicating that there are speed cameras ahead not also be illegal. I thought the idea of speed cameras (fixed ones) was to make people aware of them and slow down in particular areas/accident blackspots.

In the case of the website detailing where mobile speed traps are normally located, I'd like to see that one going to court. If its aginst the law to say publicly that the gardai are normally checking for speed in a particlar location, well then I think a lot of us are in trouble.

Mojito

We should just do this!

http://www.speedbandits.dk/

drdre

Mojito wrote:

We should just do this!

http://www.speedbandits.dk/

the server is down for maintance:D

threebeards

NiSmO wrote:

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It's attitudes like yours that cause accidents like this

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1109/rta.html

I came on this accident a few minutes after it happened last night and it has to be the most gut wrenching thing I've ever witnessed. The car in which the 3 young lads were killed overtook me coming up to a bend at ridiculously high speed about 10 minutes before I came on the accident. Until attitudes towards speed change, this kind of thing will continue to happen again and again and again. The speed cameras are there for a reason, and a website that promotes there whereabouts in an effort to dodge them is in my opinion, wrong.

CK.1

threebeards wrote:

It's attitudes like yours that cause accidents like this

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1109/rta.html

I came on this accident a few minutes after it happened last night and it has to be the most gut wrenching thing I've ever witnessed. The car in which the 3 young lads were killed overtook me coming up to a bend at ridiculously high speed about 10 minutes before I came on the accident. Until attitudes towards speed change, this kind of thing will continue to happen again and again and again. The speed cameras are there for a reason, and a website that promotes there whereabouts in an effort to dodge them is in my opinion, wrong.

And how do you think this is linked to speeding? From your account they were overtaking on or coming up to bends. According to the news report they were involved in a head on collision. Nothing to do with speed really. If you were only doing 60kmph and hit someone head on you would be in serious trouble.

threebeards

CK.1 wrote:

And how do you think this is linked to speeding? From your account they were overtaking on or coming up to bends. According to the news report they were involved in a head on collision. Nothing to do with speed really. If you were only doing 60kmph and hit someone head on you would be in serious trouble.

If you read my post again, you'll see that I said they overtook me at a ridiculously high speed coming up to a bend.

If you're wondering whether or not there was speed involved, figure this - the pickup only had damage to its passenger side (which is coroborated by the fact that the only one uninjured was the pickup driver); the car, which was in a wall, still had the light on the driver side working which would indicate that they hit the pickup also on the passenger side. By elimination, my guess would be, and it's only a guess, that they were overtaking, probably at high speed, realised they couldn't get back in in time and tried (in vain) to make it to the grass verge on the right hand side of the road. If you saw the state of the car, believe me you would not have guessed that it was anything as big as a Mitsubishi Lancer. It looked more like a Corsa.

My point is, that if they were prepared to overtake me at close to 70 mph within 100 yards of a bend, I would be of the thinking that on a straight stretch of road, which is where the accident happened, they would be well capable of doing higher speeds than that.

Can I ask you 1 question CK.1, in your opinion, is it acceptable to do speeds in excess of the stated speed limits?

Keith C

Lets hope when these speed cameras do get rolled out, that they concentrate on the country roads where these deaths are happening & not just to generate revenue on the M1, M50 or other motorway/dual carraigeways with low crashes resulting in death.

daymobrew

AlanD wrote:

The website needs a bit of work. Illegal or not. It has some coding issues. This amateur needs to fully test his website before making public.

It's also ideal for a Google Maps mashup.

I prefer Pumps.ie to IrishFuelPrices.com because the former uses Google Maps. There is no ambiguity about the location when you see it on the map (picture, 1000 words and all that).

CK.1

threebeards, do you not think that dangerous overtaking is the real cause of this accident? Sure they were speeding, and that is wrong as well, but the real reason they crashed is they overtook when they couldn't see if traffic was coming from the opposite direction.

In answer to your question I think acceptable to do speeds in excess of the stated speed limits in certain circumstances.

CK.1

That pumps.ie is really cool, good find!

threebeards

CK.1 wrote:

threebeards, do you not think that dangerous overtaking is the real cause of this accident?

I think it was probably partly the cause.

CK.1 wrote:

Sure they were speeding, and that is wrong as well, but the real reason they crashed is they overtook when they couldn't see if traffic was coming from the opposite direction.

The stretch of road in question is as straight as a die for probably upwards of a mile or maybe even more, so with clear conditions last night, I fail to see how they couldn't see if traffic was coming. It's the busiest time of the evening and about 2 miles from a decent sized town, of course there's going to be traffic.

CK.1 wrote:

In answer to your question I think acceptable to do speeds in excess of the stated speed limits in certain circumstances.

As long as people think this, there are always going to be accidents, serious accidents. I have no intention or interest in getting into the "what if's" of last nights or any other accident - all I'm saying is, in my opinion it was speed that was the main contributor, it's speed that's the main contributor to many (not all) serious or fatal accidents, and it's speed, in high powered cars, by inexperienced young drivers, mainly male that's going to continue to cause many accidents. The reason I brought it up in this thread is because speed cameras are in place for a reason - to try and reduce speed.

When the penalty points system was first introduced, the level of road deaths decreased significantly, because people were conscious of their speed and by slowing down, the level of deaths was also down. This is no coincidence in my opinion.

CK.1

threebeards, so why do the majority of speed traps seem to be on motorways and dual carriageways such as the Stillorgan Dual Carriageway, Tallaght By-Pass, M50, etc etc?

threebeards

CK.1 wrote:

threebeards, so why do the majority of speed traps seem to be on motorways and dual carriageways such as the Stillorgan Dual Carriageway, Tallaght By-Pass, M50, etc etc?

I think its because they're there..

Keith C wrote:

to generate revenue on the M1, M50 or other motorway/dual carraigeways

SonOfPerdition

threebeards wrote:

If you read my post again, you'll see that I said they overtook me at a ridiculously high speed coming up to a bend.

If you're wondering whether or not there was speed involved, figure this - the pickup only had damage to its passenger side (which is coroborated by the fact that the only one uninjured was the pickup driver); the car, which was in a wall, still had the light on the driver side working which would indicate that they hit the pickup also on the passenger side. By elimination, my guess would be, and it's only a guess, that they were overtaking, probably at high speed, realised they couldn't get back in in time and tried (in vain) to make it to the grass verge on the right hand side of the road. If you saw the state of the car, believe me you would not have guessed that it was anything as big as a Mitsubishi Lancer. It looked more like a Corsa.

My point is, that if they were prepared to overtake me at close to 70 mph within 100 yards of a bend, I would be of the thinking that on a straight stretch of road, which is where the accident happened, they would be well capable of doing higher speeds than that.

Can I ask you 1 question CK.1, in your opinion, is it acceptable to do speeds in excess of the stated speed limits?

probably not a good idea to speculate unless you actually witnessed the accident as the gardai are still investigating.

threebeards

SonOfPerdition wrote:

probably not a good idea to speculate unless you actually witnessed the accident as the gardai are still investigating.

Fair point.

Samba

crosstownk wrote:

Is this thread developing into a guide on how to speed and avoid detection?

Do we not all want to reduce road deaths and other accidents that are caused as a result of speeding?

o.k.

Stillorgan Duel Carriageway 60kmph speed limit, genious who ever came up with that.....

Small windy country road on the way to tullamore, 100kmph speed limit, genious who ever came up with that.

M50 from Sandyford to Tallaght 100kmph, genius again!

From Johnny Foxes to Enniskerry windy death trap of a road, I saw a sign post recently for 60kmph, einsteins!

I'm all up for reducing road deaths and the enforcement of speed limits in this country however as they are currently structured is beyond a piss take.

Speed limits should be set according to recorded statistics on said stretches of roads, not on what some civil servant genius feels is the correct speed limit.

I may be wrong in what I said above, i'm not entirely sure how speed limits are set in this country? One thing for sure, is that to date, they've have clearly demonstrated they have no clue how and why x speed limit should be enforced on said stretches of road.


How many Deaths have their been on the Stillorgan Duel Carriageway over the past 5 years?

How many deaths have there been on Sandyford - firhouse m50 stretch since it's opening?

end rant.

Hotblack Desiato

threebeards wrote:

By elimination, my guess would be, and it's only a guess, that they were overtaking, probably at high speed, realised they couldn't get back in in time and tried (in vain) to make it to the grass verge on the right hand side of the road.

So if they couldn't get back in time, obviously they weren't going fast enough... :eek:

There is NO such thing as a safe speed on the wrong side of the road with traffic approaching. It wasn't the speed that killed them, it was dangerous overtaking.

What you are describing is dangerous driving and speed cameras are useless against it, only proper policing can deal with it. However speed cameras are a quick and easy way of generating lots of revenue, police patrols cost money... Also a telling off from a Garda (with or without a ticket) is much more effective at influencing attitudes and behaviour than a ticket in the post.

testicle

Samba wrote:

How many Deaths have their been on the Stillorgan Duel Carriageway over the past 5 years?

1. It's Dual, not Duel. Duelling is what gentlemen do at dawn.

2. http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=732268&issue_id=7231

3. There's traffic lights every couple of hundred yards on it.

4. http://www.greenparty.ie/en/campaigns/pedestrian_safety_on_the_stillorgan_dual_carriageway (No I don't support the Greens)

5. http://wwa.rte.ie/news/2000/0514/bus.html

6. http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/1108/rta.html

7. http://www.rte.ie/news/1999/1028/print/charleville.html

Rags

ITs perfectly fine to go over the speed limits and I'll tell you why. Most of the speed limits are a complete joke. Take Trim to Blanchardstown, very wide road. Not many bends. Perfectly safe to go 100km at least there. The speed limit is 80km.

Now take delvin to Mullingar a road I travel on everyday. Its narrow, horrible bends. Only one or two straight parts where you would safely go over 80km. And the speed limit is 100km. The speed limits are messed up in this country.

As long as drivers use common sence. Ie overtaking on a bend is very stupid. Never mind at what speed. Anyone doing that is sooner or later going to end up dead. Its just wreckless.

Redrocket

the first time i drove mulligar to delvin... what a misleading speed limit!!
there are corers there i wouldnd go around at 60!!

Sizzler

NUTLEY BOY wrote:

As we are on the subject of avoiding detection by the Gardai !

Years ago motorists used to flash headlights to warn oncoming traffic of a speed trap. I have not seen it done for years. Don't you just long for those good old days when motorists showed each other such kindly consideration !

Funny you should say that, I still find it quiet prominent and I always try to return the favour if Im going in the opposite direction.

Truck driver flashed me outside Gorey a few months back and hey presto there was a copper in a ditch about 3/4 mile up the road, never would have seen him. Quality

Samba

testicle wrote:

1. It's Dual, not Duel. Duelling is what gentlemen do at dawn.

2. http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=732268&issue_id=7231

3. There's traffic lights every couple of hundred yards on it.

4. http://www.greenparty.ie/en/campaigns/pedestrian_safety_on_the_stillorgan_dual_carriageway (No I don't support the Greens)

5. http://wwa.rte.ie/news/2000/0514/bus.html

6. http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/1108/rta.html

7. http://www.rte.ie/news/1999/1028/print/charleville.html

I'm amazed, being such a pedant, as to outline an error in the spelling of a word, you failed to address my point in relation to the M50, that is what pedants do so be a good pedant and elaborate on the correctness of said speed limits along the stretch of road from Sandyford to Tallaght.

I'll accept those articles and points in relation to the Stillorgan DUAL carriageway and I clearly understand why they are there, however you have failed to see the point I was making, which is in relation to speed limits on some lethal roads in rural regions which are an utter disgrace.

testicle

They are limits, not targets. Just because the limit on a country lane may be 80kph, doesn't mean you have to drive at 80kph.

As for the M50. I have been led to believe that the reason for the 100kph between Firhouse and Ballinteer (not Sandyford as you stated) is due to a combination of the bends in the road, and the possibility of deer on the motorway.

Stark

The estate where I live has 5km/hr speed limit signs posted around it. I wonder if the speed limit applies to pedestrians, I'd hate to break the law by going for a jog

Samba

testicle wrote:

They are limits, not targets. Just because the limit on a country lane may be 80kph, doesn't mean you have to drive at 80kph.

As for the M50. I have been led to believe that the reason for the 100kph between Firhouse and Ballinteer (not Sandyford as you stated) is due to a combination of the bends in the road, and the possibility of deer on the motorway.

Try 100kmph. and try doing 50kmph on your average country road with a string of local cars behind you....

And what you have stated is totally irrelevant, the fact is, one is allowed to do speeds of up to 100kmph on what are effectively very dangerous roads.

In contrast what is effectively a very safe stretch of road, the limit is also 100kmph.

Double standards.

crosstownk

M50 reduced speed limit............... FYI

I.S.T.

daymobrew wrote:

It's also ideal for a Google Maps mashup.

I prefer Pumps.ie to IrishFuelPrices.com because the former uses Google Maps. There is no ambiguity about the location when you see it on the map (picture, 1000 words and all that).

Google Maps functionality is currently being added and should be online soon :-)

BarryM3

I drive for a living and within 18months I was done for speeding 4 times.

The fastest speed I was doing was 41mph.

ALL of the locations were 30mph dual carraigeways.

Luckily this was before the penalty points came in, if it was more recent I would now be out of a job... Anyone who tries to defend these 'offences' as being crucial in the WAR ON SPEED I would think is naive and stupid in the extreme.

Great idea for a website IMO.

CK.1

Lads,

just to let you know there is now a mobile version of the site which you can access from your mobile phone/pda/etc

www.irishspeedtraps.com/m

Our man in Havana

Not a lot of use if there is only 1 trap listed.

techguy

The tax man wrote:

You can't even see them till it's too late so be warned.

Yea they setup just after a bend so even if you have one of the many "scanners" available its too late.. they have you as you come around..

cpoh1

crosstownk wrote:

Is this thread developing into a guide on how to speed and avoid detection?

Do we not all want to reduce road deaths and other accidents that are caused as a result of speeding?

Without dragging up an old arguement, do you really think when the gardai are putting speed checks on some of the best and safest roads in the country that they are trying to prevent road deaths rather than filling quotes a la shooting fish in a barrel? The only good these traps are doing is generating revenue.

Now placing a speed trap on a road that might actually warrant it thats a different story, but then again doing something like that would make too much sense.