Was this all bad play?

5starpool

Hand from the EPM satellite last night.

Stacks:

EP: 9.1k
Button: 7k
Me (BB): ~16k

I am BB for 600 with a running ante of 100 so 8 handed there is 1700 in the pot before the action.

UTG+1 raises to 1600. He has been at the table for a while, and not played many hands, has been giving it a lot of good humoured verbals despite getting AA cracked.

Foled to Button, who calls. He seems to have been frustrated somewhat at not getting cards, and nearly committed all his chips to me with A9 when I flop a set of 4's a few hands earlier.

SB folds and I look down at AQo. I raise to 5.1k. Comments? Is this a horrendous play? My thinking was that I was signalling myintent not to go away from this hand, and to be honest I thought the open raise was somewhat weak, and the flat call from the button more so. Blinds and antes were becoming a factor at this point.

Both EP and Button end up all in, with EP looking more confident than button and it is 4k more for me to call to win 26k, so despite hating this position it has to be a call.

As posted in the other thread they table QQ and JJ and I flop an A to get the stack that makes me comfortable for ages.

So, was this a donk/chief type move? I can't make up my mind whether I played this badly or well. I am leaning more towards one position than the other though.

brianmc

I think a "bad read" might describe it better than a bad play. Given your read, I don't see a problem with it.

but your read was wrong...

willis

We should only be worried by ep raiser imo, button seems weak and were happy to get allin vs him. However if ep is solid, his range is quite small imo, and your raise totally pot commits yourself to playing for his full stack if he pumps. In general its a tough decision but i may just call, if not fold, dependent on my read of villain in ep

Gholimoli

EP riaser range has you crushed.
you say you thought his open raise was weak?
do you have reason for this ,cuz you said your self he hasnt been playing many hands and then he open raises from UTG+1.
i would fold AQ there.

bops

The large reraise on the BB always apears "weak" to me in these situations.
(I would put you on A10+ 77+ roughly)

Ignoring the SB, there's not a lot of hands you were going to be ahead of against the EP solid guy - at best you were having a race against TT/JJ - so a bad move imo, but an excellent move given the outcome!

Then again many tight players would lay down TT/JJ here - putting you on a hand like AQ - in the fear of a race!! - You had the stack (just about) to make the move - so maybe not such a bad move!

i'm very helpful ...poker is a very complicated simple game

gocall01

I would have called the raise and wait for the flop (probably a weak play?).
However, floping the Ace the only hands that cause on issue are AK or a set (don't know what the other 2 cards on the flop were).
A 3/4 pot sized raise would have gotten the info required.

The weak play PF of not raising will have left the possibility of smaller PPs coming into the post flop equation from the button.

Is my thought process realistic here or is this why I go out of tournies with AQos so often?

Marq

As it will be almost impossible for you to fold if EP goes all in over the top of your raise, I think you put both players all-in instead of just raising over half their stacks.
And given your read (which was mostly wrong), this is the right move. You can't wait around with the blinds that high anyway.

Hitman Actual

It wasn't all bad. The 4K call for the 26K pot is excellent poker.

I like the 're-raise bluff from the blinds' move, but with a solid EP raiser involved, this is not the time to try it. Or with a LP player who's probably commited. So if you can't win the hand uncontested preflop, then fold is probably best, even though I suppose this would be considered very tight in some quarters.

Anyway, well done on the ticket Dom!

ollyk1

1k into a 5.9k pot whats wrong with a call here preflop?? That raise utg is suspicious given the size of the pot preflop if hes a good player he knows you call here with a lot of hands. I call and check on the flop to the raiser.

anyway well done Dom you are on a great run at the moment

Bandana boy

Given you have opponent 1 as tight reasonable poker player what is he raising from UTG+1 with ?
If we put his range at AA KK QQ JJ TT 99 AK AQ AJ am i wrong ?

If so I think this is a horrible re-raise you have him on a range that goes from completely dominating you and a guaranteed call to ahead and calling to ahead and he might fold to behind and will defo fold

I think AQ & AJ is the pay of hand in so many MTTs when there is action and should be dumped not called or raised

That said well done on ticket a little luck is always needed in these things

cardshark202

Calling is out of the question, folding is generally best here. Though, if you have a read, go for it.
Well done on winning the ticket Dom. With the 2nd place in the SE and the ticket it sounds like you're beginning a nice little run.