AK EPM game

dacman

After being very short stacked in this game through out KK beaten and caught stealing once I hit a very big hand with my roughy 7k stack and trebled though curtiousy of quads.

Any ways next hand after that i get AK( blinds 800/1500). Villain makes it 4k( the guy not sure of his name seemed pretty weak to me( called an all in with q 10 at my previous table) so shove 29k in with the AK( hoping he would fold more than anything)

Comments on this play against a weak player please

5starpool

I was amazed with his play in this hand (I was 2 to your left). I don't think that you did an awful lot wrong, but I had been at the table only a few minutes. Considering what he played with for his stack you were miles ahead of his range so unlucky.

LuckyLloyd

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Glowingmind

dacman wrote:

After being very short stacked in this game through out KK beaten and caught stealing once I hit a very big hand with my roughy 7k stack and trebled though curtiousy of quads.

Any ways next hand after that i get AK( blinds 800/1500). Villain makes it 4k( the guy not sure of his name seemed pretty weak to me( called an all in with q 10 at my previous table) so shove 29k in with the AK( hoping he would fold more than anything)

Comments on this play against a weak player please

I assume this is the guy who knocked me out with the q10?

If it is, i don't think the shove is bad at all.

cardshark202

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Problem is, if he callled an all - in earlier with Q10, the probabillity is that he will call you with any pocket pair greater than 33 - Where a reasonable player may fold 99 or lower. The advantage is that he may also call with a weaker A or K - if he will go with Q10, he may very well go with KJ.

Any call from a pocket pair and you will be coin flipping with a very playable stack - something you don't need to do in a satellite.

You could call, but if he catches any of the board and you miss, you will probably not be able to shove him off.

Weak players equal danger in these sort of situations. I would call and play it very big if I catch on the flop - he may very well check it to showdown if he doesn't improve.

This is bad. You should definately be pushing all in here. AK crushes his range.

Hitman Actual

Seems alright to me, but if you're pushing in the hope that he folds, forget about it. If he called with QT previously, there's not much he's folding here. Also, how much has he left after the 4K raise? I assume he's commited. Or if he has a similar stack to you, then it's actually a much riskier play, as you're probably not much more than a 60/40 favourite here. A decent edge, I know, but it would be nice to have the added folding equity that you'd normally have.

5starpool

lenny_leonard wrote:

Seems alright to me, but if you're pushing in the hope that he folds, forget about it. If he called with QT previously, there's not much he's folding here. Also, how much has he left after the 4K raise? I assume he's commited. Or if he has a similar stack to you, then it's actually a much riskier play, as you're probably not much more than a 60/40 favourite here. A decent edge, I know, but it would be nice to have the added folding equity that you'd normally have.

He had a slightly bigger stack than the OP. This same guy later checks QQ all the way on a 9 high board after calling a raise preflop and sought to defend himself when I mentioned my surprise it after it was checked down to show QQ vs AK. He also won a ticket.

Hitman Actual

It amazes me the amount of idiots that will play €300 games these days...

Gholimoli

i dont see the need to go all in here with that stack against this type of player in a sattelite.
the wider his range is for calling the less i would be inclined to push here.
i would call and play poker post flop.

kakak1

lenny_leonard wrote:

It amazes me the amount of idiots that will play €300 games these days...

and win tickets !!! is there a message there ??

NickyOD

Shove that puppy!!

MrPillowTalk

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Problem is, if he callled an all - in earlier with Q10, the probabillity is that he will call you with any pocket pair greater than 33 - Where a reasonable player may fold 99 or lower. The advantage is that he may also call with a weaker A or K - if he will go with Q10, he may very well go with KJ.

Any call from a pocket pair and you will be coin flipping with a very playable stack - something you don't need to do in a satellite.

You could call, but if he catches any of the board and you miss, you will probably not be able to shove him off.

Weak players equal danger in these sort of situations. I would call and play it very big if I catch on the flop - he may very well check it to showdown if he doesn't improve.

This hits the nail on the head for me.

Against someone who can fold its a push against a calling station its a call.

MrPillowTalk

cardshark202 wrote:

This is bad. You should definately be pushing all in here. AK crushes his range.

why do you want to get it in here when villain has shown he will call huge raises with very marginal holdings, you will likely stack him if he has a worse ace and one hits and you might get him off a small pair or even get him to stick it in drawing to two outs on the flop.

cardshark202

MrPillowTalk wrote:

why do you want to get it in here when villain has shown he will call huge raises with very marginal holdings, you will likely stack him if he has a worse ace and one hits and you might get him off a small pair or even get him to stick it in drawing to two outs on the flop.

Because he will call all in with a worse ace anyway, and call all in with any decent face card, all of which you are ahead of. We are a 60% fave against his range, AK high will be good enough of the time to make this a push imo.

dacman

Gholimoli wrote:

i dont see the need to go all in here with that stack against this type of player in a sattelite.
the wider his range is for calling the less i would be inclined to push here.
i would call and play poker post flop.

I agree with this play against a bad player here. best take a flop with this guy at this stage as my stack had just become playable. against every other player at that table i think a push may have got them off the hand he played against me. it amazes me how some people dont give one sec to think abt other players ranges

dacman

5starpool wrote:

He had a slightly bigger stack than the OP. This same guy later checks QQ all the way on a 9 high board after calling a raise preflop and sought to defend himself when I mentioned my surprise it after it was checked down to show QQ vs AK. He also won a ticket.

yeah seen this hand aswell.. SO STRANGE.

Hitman Actual

One thing about just calling: what's your plan on the flop, and, more importantly, any info on what villain is likely to do on the flop? He has reverse position on you (irish position, as it were), so do you think he'll bet the flop even if he misses? If he plays passive when he misses, then a very good case can be made for calling, as he should fold to our continuation bet (which I assume we have to make). But if he's aggressive on the flop, then two times out of three, we're just wasting 4K.

I'm starting to ramble a bit there, but I think you get my point.

dacman

lenny_leonard wrote:

One thing about just calling: what's your plan on the flop, and, more importantly, any info on what villain is likely to do on the flop? He has reverse position on you (irish position, as it were), so do you think he'll bet the flop even if he misses? If he plays passive when he misses, then a very good case can be made for calling, as he should fold to our continuation bet (which I assume we have to make). But if he's aggressive on the flop, then two times out of three, we're just wasting 4K.

I'm starting to ramble a bit there, but I think you get my point.

If i hit the flop hope to gain at least another bet from him him other wise if he checks i bet half the pot. if he calls let it go. hard to know how to play against these type of players .GUESS this is the real QUESTION here. How do u play this guy based on the information given.

dacman

Glowingmind wrote:

I assume this is the guy who knocked me out with the q10?

If it is, i don't think the shove is bad at all.

yeah same guy

LuckyLloyd

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