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Playing on a network with the same username

  • 02-11-2006 6:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    Im on Paddypower and i have a small network setup, Computer and laptop. I usually play with a family member but we both want to play at once using the same account. I dont want the hassle of trying to deposits to 2 different accounts, having poker tracker try to track the accounts seperate etc aswell as the fact the points wont be accumulated as 1 account and having the costs of transferring money back and forth and the fees associated.

    Anywho, is there any way around this, if i try to login on one computer it knocks the other one off giving a message about only one login allowed or something similar.

    Another alternative is i have 2 monitors setup on my computer, is it possible to plug 1 mouse in to the back of the pc the other mouse into the usb and use one mouse to control one screen and the other mouse to control the other screen, then i would be able to open 2 games and we could play each one on seperate screens otherwise wed have to be passing the mouse over and back and it wouldnt be very practical.

    Any ideas:confused:


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Thanks ...... sorry but post made me laugh alot.

    Opr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 880 ✭✭✭eggie


    buy another mouse, plug one into the laptop and anohter into the pc.

    if you only have one internet cable then buy a wireless router for 50 bucks and go wireless on the laptop and the pc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    eggie wrote:
    buy another mouse, plug one into the laptop and anohter into the pc.

    if you only have one internet cable then buy a wireless router for 50 bucks and go wireless on the laptop and the pc.

    I don't think this will solve the problem. You won't be able to use the same ac on 2 comps at the same time. I don't see any way to do what you want.

    If you set up an a/c with another skin (greenjoker/doyles room etc) you will probably be able to use the same credit card/neteller ac - and you will benifit rom another signup bonus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    Im probably not explaining properly. I have the laptop and the pc both connected to the internet in the same house and they both have their own mouse. We both want to play simultaneously but if i log into paddypower on the laptop it wont let me log in under the same username on another computer. Do you know what i mean.

    I just taught their might be a way around it, like there is a way around viewing more than 4 tables at one time on tribeca even though tribeca try to prevent it. Id rather not have 2 accounts because we split our winnings anyway so id rather just have the 1 account.

    Edit.....
    Thanks Mr Flibble, i wrote the reply before i seen your response. At least someone understands me lol! So i guess it cant be done,

    Its a great way to play by the way, you know when your on tilt just step away and let the other person take over and by the time they finish your calm down and then you get a go. Would be nice to play together though because i dont like multitabling because it brings down my ROI and i dont have time to get any reads and get rushed on hands i like to think through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I'd say not, to prevent people cheating, by playing two accounts of the same person on the same table.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Afaik its one person per account so you're going to have to sort out another account for your family member to play off. Quite easily done, you could even withdraw your entire balance to neteller, then redeposit half to your account and half to theirs, if you wanted.
    That said, PPP say they have to suspend your account for 36 hours when setting up neteller (provided you didn't deposit originally through neteller) though strangely enough, after having said that to me, it was done immediately and I didn't have my account suspended.

    So yeah, either way you'll have to set up a second account.

    Oh and also, I don't think you'll be able to have two PPP accounts running from the same IP at the same time, so you'll have to use a different skin. Doylesroom/GJP have good deals for the tribeca network, providing you want to stay with Tribeca that is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭Ed


    Hi,

    Short answer is that what's you're asking can't be done. An account can only be logged into by one person at a time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    the_syco wrote:
    I'd say not, to prevent people cheating, by playing two accounts of the same person on the same table.

    Id imagine someone trying to cheat wouldnt use this option but im sure its more to do with the terms and conditions which prohibit 2 people using the same account.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 880 ✭✭✭eggie


    dvdfan wrote:
    Id imagine someone trying to cheat wouldnt use this option but im sure its more to do with the terms and conditions which prohibit 2 people using the same account.

    I think the best way to do this is to use a secondary deposit method with 2 accounts. You can simply add the balance of the 2 accounts together for personal records.

    Deposit through netteller, 2 accounts if necessary, but you can still use the same credit card to deposit on netteller and relocate these deposits to 2 serparate accounts on ppp.

    Play your separate accounts/user names on ppp and as you split the bill then u can use either sign on at any time with extra anonimity as your styles may be slightly different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭sprocket1


    its to do with your IP ADDRESS ,tribeca will not let two or more players on the network at the same time with the same ip address ,this is to stop colusion at the tables , the obovious answer is to get another ip address not as easy as it seems though, but not impossible .....................ill leave it at that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    Are you sure its definetely the i.p address, i know the ip address might be something they stop but would they allow someone to log in from 2 different locations with the same username. Id like to know for definite before i go exploring the ip address thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    I have to say this is a bizarre thread, and I don't even play online much. You want for you and your housemate/brother/sister/whoever to be able to play using your account at the same time as you're playing under it (or maybe at different times??), on the same network, using the same cashier, both racking up the bonus, pokertracker tracking both your stats, etc... Is this correct? Absolutely impossible. Whatever about the ethical issues, the current clients would explode if they had to handle this.

    Plus, two accounts under different IP addresses but playing from the same base is surely unethical as well. Grannies and all that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Shortstack


    There is no problem playing two tribeca accounts from one IP address, you just cant sit at the same cash tables.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    Yep,

    Basically we work as a team, invested half the money each and usually take turns when were in the house together with our aim to build a nice bankroll and move through the levels etc. To speed up things i was hoping to multitable when the 2 of us are there, same thing as multitabling but with 2 different users. Guess its not possible and an unusual request but hey taught id give it a try and see if there was a workaround


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭Ed


    Hi, just to clarify - i work for PPP - you can't use the same username/account on two different pc's at the same time even if they're on different ip's. If you're logged into one pc, and someone logs in from somewhere else you'll be logged out straight away.

    That said, shortstack is correct, there's two different people playing from the same ip at the same time, as long as they're not playing together at the same table or tourney.

    Also, just in relation to the fact that there's two people using your account - that would constitute a breach of the terms and conditions
    " Your account is personal to you. You shall not allow others to use your account or to accept any prize or participate in any of the Games. Any person found to have violated this section will be liable for all losses on the account but will not be entitled to collect any winnings."

    While that may not sound serious to you, it should be noted that if a person who is not the named account holder wins a seat in an event, be it the wsop or the irish open, that prize is not theirs to claim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    Ed wrote:
    " You shall not allow others to use your account or to accept any prize or participate in any of the Games. Any person found to have violated this section will be liable for all losses on the account but will not be entitled to collect any winnings."

    Ugh, what a silly rule. So if you were to win a 100k prize you can't give any to your family/charity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭Ed


    well if you won 100k, we'd give it to whoever the named account holder is. Then they can do whatever they like with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    No wonder I lost half my roll the other night on that PPP table that had 8 players named Dvdfan!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭sprocket1


    i think this tread should be stopped as it is or could be helping in a roundabout way in colusion ,cheating etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    hotspur wrote:
    No wonder I lost half my roll the other night on that PPP table that had 8 players named Dvdfan!
    :D

    this is the most bizzare thread i have ever read


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    sprocket1 wrote:
    i think this tread should be stopped as it is or could be helping in a roundabout way in colusion ,cheating etc

    If i or anyone else wanted to cheat it would be alot less obvious to do it with a mate in another county, town or country and communicate through msn etc

    I gave me reasons why i wanted this but close away, i got my answer and the best solution seems to be to setup another account and that way i dont infringe the ppp terms and conditions, it would have just been handier if i could have multiplayed on 2 different computers instead of 1 computer. Cant see anything in this thread that could help someone cheat that they couldnt think of on their own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    dvdfan wrote:
    If i or anyone else wanted to cheat it would be alot less obvious to do it with a mate in another county, town or country and communicate through msn etc.

    I never thought of that brilliant
    dvdfan wrote:
    . Cant see anything in this thread that could help someone cheat that they couldnt think of on their own.

    I think i proved you wrong :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    Colluding in the way described in this thread is trivially easy. If someone didn't think of using msn/skype/the phone and are too stupid to google colluding then I doubt they would be smart enough to win cash at poker with the aid of colluding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭PPP-Pit Boss


    Ugh, what a silly rule. So if you were to win a 100k prize you can't give any to your family/charity.

    We recently had a player who won a seat into the WSOP on his wifes account... tickets are non-transfererrable and this was contrary to the t's and c's the ticket was forfeit. If YOU However win 100k YOU can give it to whom you please. You won it, it's your money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    We recently had a player who won a seat into the WSOP on his wifes account... tickets are non-transfererrable and this was contrary to the t's and c's the ticket was forfeit. If YOU However win 100k YOU can give it to whom you please. You won it, it's your money.

    I know plenty of people who have transfered seats on other sites, why are Paddys strict on this, also didnt Masters play a seat in Edinburgh that someone else won? So that would appear to be false.

    Ive shared accounts with others before and had other players play my accounts and Ive played other players accounts, it is rampant everyone does it and I certainly dont consider it cheating, the only possible gain is that people dont know its you.

    Honestly cheating and team play is so incredibly easy online it is nearly counter productive to try and stop it. Skype have just made it so that 5 people with different ips can sit at the same table and share information and just make it impossible for the sixth man to win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭sprocket1


    Honestly cheating and team play is so incredibly easy online it is nearly counter productive to try and stop it. Skype have just made it so that 5 people with different ips can sit at the same table and share information and just make it impossible for the sixth man to win.
    __________________
    yea i totally agree with this and certainly at the higher stakes tables


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭PPP-Pit Boss


    It is not particularly easy to detect (playing on someone elses account) but if we do then we enforce the rules. The reason this rule is in place is because in live poker you build up a picture of a player. In internet poker this is done by taking notes on the play. So if suddenly someone else starts playing in place of the person you know as "tight, raises only from late position" etc in a completely new style it makes the picture you created defunct.
    As for the colluding / cheating comments it is a well known fact that we have caught and evicted several colluders. We use anti collusion detection software and various methods to report on suspect play.


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