jason sherlock transfering to oliver plunnets

ANXIOUS

just heard it there from an informed source, seems like maybe na finnas hammering by vincents last night could be the beginning of the end for the mobi road club as a force in dublin football.

Anyone have any ideas as to why he is meaning, besides his frienship with alan brogan, they will have some forward line next year.

UnitedIrishman

Dublin Senior Football is like watching the premiership.

Locality and pride in the area obviously means absolutely nothing.

blackbelt

The above statement is ignorant.Did you ever consider the fact that Jason Sherlock may not be happy with Na Fianna anymore and that he wants to play with a club that will make him happy.Plus Alan Brogan is a pull factor.A move to St Vincents would be heavily criticised as jumping ship really quick under the circumstances that Na Fianna were destroyed by Vincents regardless of the fact his other friend Mossy Quinn plays for Vinnies.

gucci

ANXIOUS wrote:

Anyone have any ideas as to why he is meaning, besides his frienship with alan brogan, they will have some forward line next year.

i nominate this for the "worst use of grammar/and planning of a sentence award" calm down and think before you type!

kevmy

blackbelt wrote:

The above statement is ignorant.Did you ever consider the fact that Jason Sherlock may not be happy with Na Fianna anymore and that he wants to play with a club that will make him happy.Plus Alan Brogan is a pull factor.A move to St Vincents would be heavily criticised as jumping ship really quick under the circumstances that Na Fianna were destroyed by Vincents regardless of the fact his other friend Mossy Quinn plays for Vinnies.

How is the above statement ignorant it's true as proved by the rest of your post. IMO unless a player moves permantly to an area far away s/he should stay with their own club. Thats the GAA way to much moving around will wreck the game as it already has in Dublin. The Na Fianna team has approx half a squad of outside players: McGeeney, Mullins, O'Neill, Gallagher and i think John Toal as well. What happens when these guys retire and the Dublin youngsters either have given up on the game or are not good enough due to lack of match time.

ANXIOUS

How was my op ignorant at all, i happen to know that he is particularly close to alan brogan. I think the first sign that things were going wrong was when dublin lost to mayo and he didnt play in there next championship match, and they sent around a rumor that he was planning to retire.

Plunnets look like that they will be a force to be reckoned with if and when they win division 2. Compared with Na Finna who could lose a few players next year farrel immediatly comes to mind.

blackbelt

I wasn't branding the OP as ignorant but the comments made by Gucci were.He dubbed Dublin senior football like the premiership and that they don't have pride in their local area.

Just because Sherlock is moving to Oliver Plunketts doesn't mean Dublin senior football is like the premiership.A player has the right and should have the right to transfer from a club to another if he/she wishes for whatever reason.I'm actually in the process of doing so myself due to the nepotistic attitude of my club,so don't regard a transfer as somebody who lacks pride in his local area/club.There are other reasons to consider and yes,its not just Dublin senior football who have people transferring,a lot of players in counties outside Dublin especially Mayo,Galway,Laois and Armagh transfer from their local club to clubs within their county or in Dublin.So before you brand Dublin senior football like the premiership,think about what you type and say before doing so.

I feel and anti-Dublin thread coming up.

blackbelt

Sorry,it wasn't Gucci who made the ignorant comment.I was actually referring to UnitedIrishman.

ANXIOUS

in some ways i agree to what the poster said about it being like the primership, i feel that there has to be tighter rules regarding inter-county transfers. i think some transfers make a mockery of the rules especially to na finna. The main one that strikes me was darren homans attempted transfer that resulted in him getting a years ban, that was rushed through on the day on the deadline

/Andy\

ANXIOUS wrote:

just heard it there from an informed source, seems like maybe na finnas hammering by vincents last night could be the beginning of the end for the mobi road club as a force in dublin football.

Anyone have any ideas as to why he is meaning, besides his frienship with alan brogan, they will have some forward line next year.

It's about time there was an end to Na Fianna as a power in Senior football, they don't deserve to be one. They are a mediocre club with historically poor underage sides (rarely in Div 1) who achieved success due to stealing players from other clubs. Most real G.A.A peoplein Dublin will be anything but sad to see them fall back to their ordained level.

As for Plunketts being contenders, get real. They're another poor club with nothing coming through from underage sides without the surname Brogan. Winning division two is no great achievement as the gulf in quality is astronomical.

Breezer

I heard months ago from an informed source that Jayo was unhappy with Na Fianna and was considering a move, possibly to Plunkett's. It's got nothing to do with Vincent's beating them (not sure if this is what Anxious was suggesting but just clarifying that in any case).

Club players play for pride in their locality, yes, but they also play for enjoyment. If their local club is proving to be an oppressive environment for whatever reason, then they have the right to leave. It's a sports club, not a prison. The situation in the Premiership, where players move to a club at the opposite end of the country for money, is completely different.

Jayo is, IMO, a fantastic player who has done both club and county a great deal of service, sometimes for little reward. I think people should respect that and cut the guy some slack.

/Andy\

Breezer wrote:

I heard months ago from an informed source that Jayo was unhappy with Na Fianna and was considering a move, possibly to Plunkett's. It's got nothing to do with Vincent's beating them (not sure if this is what Anxious was suggesting but just clarifying that in any case).

Club players play for pride in their locality, yes, but they also play for enjoyment. If their local club is proving to be an oppressive environment for whatever reason, then they have the right to leave. It's a sports club, not a prison. The situation in the Premiership, where players move to a club at the opposite end of the country for money, is completely different.

Jayo is, IMO, a fantastic player who has done both club and county a great deal of service, sometimes for little reward. I think people should respect that and cut the guy some slack.

Hear hear

ANXIOUS

Does anyone know the name of the other dublin player that transfered to na finna at the same time as homan. i cant think of it for the life of me.

as to the person that wrote plunnets off already dont forget that they had an excellent run in this years championship, which in case you dont know also has division one teams in it.

/Andy\

ANXIOUS wrote:

Does anyone know the name of the other dublin player that transfered to na finna at the same time as homan. i cant think of it for the life of me.

as to the person that wrote plunnets off already dont forget that they had an excellent run in this years championship, which in case you dont know also has division one teams in it.

When did Homan ever transfer to "na finna"? Are you thinkin of someone else? Presume you're talking about me writing "Plunnets" off, as I recall in their "excellent" run to the quarters their most significant win was over the "mighty" Ballinteer . Also, considering I played in this years championship for a team high in division 1 I'm well aware of proper teams participation in the championship

UnitedIrishman

Some of the comments here are quite funny. The fact that a 'player can go and join whoever he wants' is a stupid argument. That just backs up my statement. Do they really care about who they are playing for? It's just like the Premiership with the best players moving to the best club or if their team looks like dropping down, "Sure it's fine I'll join Kilmacud next year".

The concept of the GAA player being the average guy who works in the town or you see on the lash every weekend seems to be really lacking in Dublin. I can understand a player moving because of work or that they're moving from their county to another county and travel would be too much. That's fair enough. But some players seem to just pick and choose their clubs.

Should it be allowed? Not for me to answer but how can you cheer on someone who you think "They'll be playing against us next year". No sense of community at all.

blackbelt

Well its as simple as this.Lets say you turn up for training all the time and don't get a look in or any match time.Would you expect a player to stay on in a club that ignores him or deprives him of playing football?.....hardly.

I'd question your passion of gaelic football or your self dignity if you didn't say anything or do something about it.

My old club knows nothing of talent.To them it doesn't matter how good you are,the only thing that matters is who you know,how long you have been there and who you are related to etc.This is the same team that expects new players to be recruited with their flier promotion,the same team who has dozens of members and players and yet only fields two teams in the hope that they can facilitate over 40 players.

Get real,there are more issues to be considered when a player transfers.Sometimes it has nothing to do with locality or the community.Sometimes it runs deeper than that and its called football.Sometimes the love of football can be higher than the love of your community who you don't have a chance to play for as you are being held back.

Jayo might have left Na Fianna for those/similar reasons.He wants to play football and be happy doing so.Its nothing like the premiership.I wouldn't care if I was in division 12A in Dublin.As long as I got my game and could play regular football,I would be more than happy to stay at that club.

ANXIOUS

/Andy\ wrote:

Presume you're talking about me writing "Plunnets" off, as I recall in their "excellent" run to the quarters their most significant win was over the "mighty" Ballinteer .

Sorry for letting facts in the way of a good story but did they not also bring vicents to a replay and then beat them:D

Out in plunketts club house the other day looks like they have a good set up great gym, cold room and they even have those monkey bars, that have seemed to pop up in every club over the past year

The Rooster

Darren Homan has played for a number of different clubs, but Na Fianna was not one of them. And I dont recall him ever serving a one year ban.

Senan Connell and Mick Galvin both joined NaFianna at around the same time - about 8 or 10 years ago. I'm not positive but I think they both came from Plunketts. I believe there was an administrative error on Connell's transfer form which led to him missing club football for one year.

It is still rare for a current Dublin intercounty footballer to transfer clubs, so talk of "premiership-style" is nonsense. Paul Bealin transferred from a junior club to Ballyboden around the same time as Galvin/Connell transfers. I'm probably forgetting someone (but clearly the number is very low), but other than Homan I can't remember any other current intercounty footballer transferring between two Dublin clubs since then. There has been rumours about Bryan Cullen leaving Skerries, who are intermediate, but nothing has come of this.

If Jason is unhappy at Na Fianna, I see nothing wrong with him transferring to another club.